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[Substitution]

Unless they give him the Hover Nozzle, FLUDD is going to be just as useless as it was in Brawl.

The only thing I know it's kinda good for is interrupting recoveries.
But, then again, a decent F-Air can do the same thing.

 

[D-idara]

I'd rather have content reveals than mechanic reveals, to tell the truth, I want music.

 

[Mr.Universe]

Unless they give him the Hover Nozzle, FLUDD is going to be just as useless as it was in Brawl.

omfg I cannot express how much I'd love that, especially if you could like still do your aerials and stuff.

Anyways, I for the rest of the week I expect one more pic with info on Lucario tomorrow, a kinda filler pic Thursday, and another pic of Lucario on Friday, but not really giving much info. About Tropical Freeze, I think that the presence of a Nintendo Direct is very important. If none happens near or around that day, I'd expect Diddy to be revealed the standard way. However, if we do get a Nintendo Direct near the release date I'm honestly expecting a Diddy/Dixie combo, as that would be worth putting in the Direct and would be relevant..

 

[Baskerville]

The only thing I know it's kinda good for is interrupting recoveries.
But, then again, a decent F-Air can do the same thing.

Even then, it doesn't push them that far and it doesn't do any sort of damage whatsoever. The charge time is longer than it should as well. Same can be said with Squirtle's Water Gun.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Speaking of mewtwo

Sweet we are getting him on the 6th

Spoiler

Spoiler

Then we should get Chrom on May 26, which is his birthday.
If Mewtwo does end up being revealed though, canon birthdays might have to come to mind when predicting.

 

[Substitution]

Even then, it doesn't push them that far and it doesn't do any sort of damage whatsoever. The charge time is longer than it should as well. Same can be said with Squirtle's Water Gun.

Though at least Water Gun is useful.

 

[Baskerville]

Though at least Water Gun is useful.

How so? As I said before both of those moves have the same problems.

 

[Fatmanonice]

There's pretty much three possible outcomes until Tropical Freeze comes out:

1. There is a Nintendo Direct next week and Diddy is revealed during it.
2. Diddy is revealed on the 13th, no direct this week or next.
3. There is a Direct this week with a character not seen yet and Diddy is revealed on the 13th next week.

Whatever happens, we're still going to end up with Diddy one way or the other. Aside from Pokemon X and Y, every major 3DS and Wii U game has been recognized on the site and all saw character reveals with Sonic being in a Direct beforehand and Rosalina being in a Direct afterwards.

 

[Amazing Ampharos]

Both moves have a lot more utility than the average player realizes; they're both really disruptive when used by a smart player. You can not only really disrupt weaker recoveries for no risk gimps, but pushing people around is a pretty powerful thing to do for stage control and stalling for time in doubles (your partner is really destroying one of the opponents; throwing a stream of water in front of the other one can be a good idea). FLUDD needed to be stronger since it was sluggish and didn't push all that hard, but the basic idea of the move is really fine. It's also interesting and unique; Mario is the only character in the game who consistently has access to something like this (remember: anything on PT that isn't on all three Pokemon isn't consistent access) so powerful or not it provides some unique to Mario angles to work with in gameplay.

To be honest, I just don't understand this complaint because it's not really even about whether FLUDD is good; Mario Tornado was a really awful special move. As an attack, it was pretty useless, and as far as recovery moves go, it was incredibly marginal given that it gained little distance and was really slow while leaving Mario poorly protected (translation: Mario using the Mario Tornado to recover was very easy to gimp). On top of being an objectively very bad move, it was really boring and generic; I see nothing whatsoever to like in Mario Tornado. I can only assume people look at how much worse Mario is in Brawl than in Melee and just assume that his new down special has anything to do with it, but it's more about the combination of his attack power nerf and his low range being a larger disadvantage in a slower paced game. Those issues can and should be fixed for Mario, but none of that is at odds with FLUDD remaining or even being improved which I feel is pretty clearly the right design decision for Mario's moveset.

 

[Xaltis]

So I don't think I was here for this. But was there a big discussion on how moves can clash/ping in the air now?

 

[Substitution]

So I don't think I was here for this. But was there a big discussion on how moves can clash/ping in the air now?

Sure.
What? Isn't that what you cam here for?
What's that? Miiverse discussions? Ha! That's a joke if I've heard one.

 

[Louie G.]

As a semi-experienced Luigi player, I would like to keep Luigi Cyclone.
Poltergust would be going backwards, essentially de-Luigifying Luigi.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm just glad to see the Super Jump Punch get confirmed. I hope it gets buffed by increasing it's air speed.

As a semi-experienced Luigi player, I would like to keep Luigi Cyclone.
Poltergust would be going backwards, essentially de-Luigifying Luigi.

I 100% agree with this.
As a Luigi main, the Luigi Cyclone is essential to me. I need this move for a more safe recovery. The Poltergust as his down special would nerf Luigi as it would worsen his recovery… and his recovery is absolutely predictable. I say that the Poltergust should be Luigi's new method of grabbing people.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Both moves have a lot more utility than the average player realizes; they're both really disruptive when used by a smart player. You can not only really disrupt weaker recoveries for no risk gimps, but pushing people around is a pretty powerful thing to do for stage control and stalling for time in doubles (your partner is really destroying one of the opponents; throwing a stream of water in front of the other one can be a good idea). FLUDD needed to be stronger since it was sluggish and didn't push all that hard, but the basic idea of the move is really fine. It's also interesting and unique; Mario is the only character in the game who consistently has access to something like this (remember: anything on PT that isn't on all three Pokemon isn't consistent access) so powerful or not it provides some unique to Mario angles to work with in gameplay.

To be honest, I just don't understand this complaint because it's not really even about whether FLUDD is good; Mario Tornado was a really awful special move. As an attack, it was pretty useless, and as far as recovery moves go, it was incredibly marginal given that it gained little distance and was really slow while leaving Mario poorly protected (translation: Mario using the Mario Tornado to recover was very easy to gimp). On top of being an objectively very bad move, it was really boring and generic; I see nothing whatsoever to like in Mario Tornado. I can only assume people look at how much worse Mario is in Brawl than in Melee and just assume that his new down special has anything to do with it, but it's more about the combination of his attack power nerf and his low range being a larger disadvantage in a slower paced game. Those issues can and should be fixed for Mario, but none of that is at odds with FLUDD remaining or even being improved which I feel is pretty clearly the right design decision for Mario's moveset.

Seems to me that you just had absolutely no idea how to use it. lol

I argue the opposite that Mario Tornado was a significantly better move than FLUDD. Going back to Melee made me still feel this way and PM only strengthens this thought for me. Not changing from it. FLUDD is ****.

But it's also here to stay in Smash 4, so ****. No choice but to stay mad and deal with it. XD

 

[Xaltis]

Sure.
What? Isn't that what you cam here for?
What's that? Miiverse discussions? Ha! That's a joke if I've heard one.

I think I almost understood what you said.

 

[Substitution]

I think I almost understood what you said.

If if didn't have anything to do with Fishing. You're probably wrong.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

There's pretty much three possible outcomes until Tropical Freeze comes out:

1. There is a Nintendo Direct next week and Diddy is revealed during it.
2. Diddy is revealed on the 13th, no direct this week or next.
3. There is a Direct this week with a character not seen yet and Diddy is revealed on the 13th next week.

Whatever happens, we're still going to end up with Diddy one way or the other. Aside from Pokemon X and Y, every major 3DS and Wii U game has been recognized on the site and all saw character reveals with Sonic being in a Direct beforehand and Rosalina being in a Direct afterwards.

3 is possible

But here's something else

4 diddy kong is revealed on or close to the 13th and theres a direct next week or next month

 

[Xaltis]

If if didn't have anything to do with Fishing. You're probably wrong.

Thewhosaboutsawhat?

 

[Substitution]

Thewhosaboutsawhat?

You know, Fishing. I was talking about Villager having a move that would use the Fishing Rod.

 

[Z'zgashi]

inb4 Sakurai releases Diddy on the 14th instead just to **** with all of you.

 

[Substitution]

inb4 Sakurai releases Diddy on the 14th instead just to **** with all of you.

But honestly, would you be surprised?

 

[pitthekit]

When will they reveal meta knight? I mean Kirby and meta knight are probably related somehow.

 

[YeppersPeppers]

I just want to say that the effect for Lucario's Extreme Speed is SO COOL!

The aura jet streams are super rad.

SUPER RAD!

 

[MasterOfKnees]

When will they reveal meta knight? I mean Kirby and meta knight are probably related somehow.

I'm not sure what the fan fiction idea at the end was for, but Meta Knight is probably facing a long way until reveal since there's no Kirby product in the foreseeable future. I've pretty much come to terms that he might be revealed post-release and be an unlockable, though that might just be my anti-dissapointment trigger going off.

 

[Xaltis]

You know, Fishing. I was talking about Villager having a move that would use the Fishing Rod.

I was talking about how moves clash/ping in the air now though o.o

 

[Curious Villager]

Meta Knight will probably be just a random reveal like Marth I think. So its probably just anyone's guess...

 

[Substitution]

I was talking about how moves clash/ping in the air now though o.o

Oh, well. Ignore my statement about Bowling then.

 

[Fatmanonice]

3 is possible

But here's something else

4 diddy kong is revealed on or close to the 13th and theres a direct next week or next month

Well, right, but I meant in the timespan between now and the 13th.

 

[Protom]

Tommorow: power up punch

 

[DaDavid]

I think Lucario is the first vet revealed so far who I'm not minding seeing a bunch of. Probably just because each day is now a possible elaboration on his tweaked aura mechanic, which is news enough for me.

 

[soviet prince]

we are due for a 3ds pic so that what we prob get tomorrow

 

[Morbi]

we are due for a 3ds pic so that what we prob get tomorrow

3DS Lucario with another buff mentioned? That sounds reasonable. I am expecting a buffed d-special or f-special.

 

[DaDavid]

Personally I hope Sakurai changed his f-special. It's not bad or anything, I just feel like something... more, could be done with his aura mechanic.

 

[TumblrFamous]

I am not expecting lucario tomorrow. I suspect a lady to be shown, any of the females we have as of now.

 

[Katy Parry]

I am just in love with lucario.

 

[Curious Villager]

I am not expecting lucario tomorrow. I suspect a lady to be shown, any of the females we have as of now.

*Resists urge to say Marth...............*

I actually wouldn't mind seeing another screenshot with Peach tomorrow, especially if it involves her messing around with the other characters again,

 

[The Drilling Juggernaut]

Tommorow: power up punch

This would be awesome. I want Lucario to have some more physical non-aura attacks.

Maybe power-up punch can adjusted aura instead of losing.

 

[Mr. Mumbles]

Anyone else find it interesting that we have yet to see Ganondorf (the worst character in Brawl) and Metaknight (the best character in brawl)? Since not that many reveals have happened, it could easily be coincidence, but I'm hopeful that it means they have some nontrivial changes for balancing purposes, and maybe a kink or two is being worked out.

 

[DaDavid]

Anyone else find it interesting that we have yet to see Ganondorf (the worst character in Brawl) and Metaknight (the best character in brawl)? Since not that many reveals have happened, it could easily be coincidence, but I'm hopeful that it means they have some nontrivial changes for balancing purposes, and maybe a kink or two is being worked out.

I really do hope so. Getting Zelda and Dedede first makes sense as far as why we haven't seen the other two, but still, I REALLY hope Sakurai is tweaking them like mad.

Also love your sig. Just thought I'd mention that haha.

 

[Xaltis]

It's going to be Lucario for tonight's pic.