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Actually, if we remember back in the opening of Smash 64, when Pikachu is hugging a Pokeball, Ash is walking in the background which signifies that Smash's Pikachu is in fact, his. Plus, Pikachu for Volt Tackle in Brawl around the time when it was the big finishing move his Pikachu used.
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That's Ash Ketchum?
 

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Dude, they ruined Pikachu in Smash. He's way too big, coming all the way up to Bowser's chin. What the heck?
 

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The Pokémon anime heavily influences the Pokémons in Smash Bros, it's not just Pokéspeech. Lucario can talk and his whole Aura deal is also straight from the anime. Mewtwo had the same voice actor in Japanese Melee as he had in the Japanese version of the first movie. Pichu's self-damaging aspects were drawn from the anime too. Pikachu and Jigglypuff are the only ones without direct influence from the anime, and even then their popularity comes solely from the anime. If anything Pokémon is the one franchise on the roster which is and has always drawn more inspiration from the anime than from the games.
Couple issues here:
The most important one is that Pichu's self-damaging is canon. It's in the 'Dex.

Lucario's Aura thing was in the games, and (I believe) the perpendicular fur thing was described both in the 'Dex and shown in Battle Revolution, and his B-moves are all actual moves in the games. I believe there was a Dex entry that stated he was telepathic, but (and this goes for Mewtwo as well) the talking thing is essentially the same as the Pokespeak thing, since they don't say "Lucarioooooooo" or "Mew, Mewtwo" in the anime, it would be ridiculous to have them do so in Melee/Brawl.

It would be even more ridiculous to have them make canon noises when Pikachu and Jiggs don't.

Also, seriously, they're both telepathic, in the anime and the games.
 

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Couple issues here:
The most important one is that Pichu's self-damaging is canon. It's in the 'Dex.

Lucario's Aura thing was in the games, and (I believe) the perpendicular fur thing was described both in the 'Dex and shown in Battle Revolution, and his B-moves are all actual moves in the games. I believe there was a Dex entry that stated he was telepathic, but (and this goes for Mewtwo as well) the talking thing is essentially the same as the Pokespeak thing, since they don't say "Lucarioooooooo" or "Mew, Mewtwo" in the anime, it would be ridiculous to have them do so in Melee/Brawl.

It would be even more ridiculous to have them make canon noises when Pikachu and Jiggs don't.

Also, seriously, they're both telepathic, in the anime and the games.
I watched the Genesect movie this morning.

Why is Mewtwo female?
 

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I think they draw more from the games for Pokemon for one simple reason. Porygon appears in smash 64 as a stage object, and Porygon2 is a Pokeball Pokemon in Melee. A certain incident aside, the Porygon family doesn't exist in the anime.
 

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I watched the Genesect movie this morning.

Why is Mewtwo female?
What?

I think they draw more from the games for Pokemon for one simple reason. Porygon appears in smash 64 as a stage object, and Porygon2 is a Pokeball Pokemon in Melee. A certain incident aside, the Porygon family doesn't exist in the anime.
Yeah, quite a shame. Porygon was one of my favorite Pokemon from the first 2 gens. They really shouldn't have just abandoned him after that. Almost as bad as the banned safari episode.
 

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In the new Pokemon anime movie or whatever, the one with the bunch of Genesects and the lotus or whatever, Mewtwo (and his Mega Evolution) are female voices, instead of the usual male. It's a bit misleading.

I though I'd mention it since people were talking about the Pokemon anime.
 

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In the new Pokemon anime movie or whatever, the one with the bunch of Genesects and the lotus or whatever, Mewtwo (and his Mega Evolution) are female voices, instead of the usual male. It's a bit misleading.

I though I'd mention it since people were talking about the Pokemon anime.
Mewtwo has simply gone through a sex change after having a conversation with Birdo.
 

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In the new Pokemon anime movie or whatever, the one with the bunch of Genesects and the lotus or whatever, Mewtwo (and his Mega Evolution) are female voices, instead of the usual male. It's a bit misleading.

I though I'd mention it since people were talking about the Pokemon anime.
If you're trying to distance yourself from the fact that you have actually seen post-gen 3 Pokemon or whatever, you should really try to be more subtle about it or whatever.

And are you sure that this isn't just Mewtwo and Frieza converging even more?
Then we see that Mewtwo has a third Mega (Z), and it looks like this:


 

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If you're trying to distance yourself from the fact that you have actually seen post-gen 3 Pokemon or whatever, you should really try to be more subtle about it or whatever.

And are you sure that this isn't just Mewtwo and Frieza converging even more?
Then we see that Mewtwo has a third Mega (Z), and it looks like this:


I'm not a big Pokemon player, and my little brother is. The movie was on today, so I watched it with him. My only experience with Pokemon is Smash Bros, the first movie, one or two of the original anime episodes and my brother's trading cards, so I kind of believed Mewtwo was male.

And I'm not subtle about it, I've never played Pokemon. Came close to it, but it got cancelled/sold. So, pardon my naive entrance.

Also, I didn't mean to say "whatever" twice.

Some still don't know that's a new Mewtwo?
Oh, that explains it. Now I feel stupid.

Maybe it's time I actually play a Pokemon game.
 
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Oh, that explains it. Now I feel stupid.
Don't worry about it. The movie didn't do a good job explaining it was a new Mewtwo, created by unnamed scientists, which is why it has the female VA (both in English and Japanese). Even the director of the movie outright said it "[is] a new Mewtwo" because reasons. Kind of worried they'll be going with that femme M2 voice instead of the epic SSBM voice one...
 

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I think they draw more from the games for Pokemon for one simple reason. Porygon appears in smash 64 as a stage object, and Porygon2 is a Pokeball Pokemon in Melee. A certain incident aside, the Porygon family doesn't exist in the anime.
Of course they draw things from both departments, but it's pretty obvious that the anime is the main source of inspiration. I don't even blame them for that, there's only so much you can draw from an RPG, considering how static they are in appearance. They also had to get really creative with Ness.

Couple issues here:
The most important one is that Pichu's self-damaging is canon. It's in the 'Dex.

Lucario's Aura thing was in the games, and (I believe) the perpendicular fur thing was described both in the 'Dex and shown in Battle Revolution, and his B-moves are all actual moves in the games. I believe there was a Dex entry that stated he was telepathic, but (and this goes for Mewtwo as well) the talking thing is essentially the same as the Pokespeak thing, since they don't say "Lucarioooooooo" or "Mew, Mewtwo" in the anime, it would be ridiculous to have them do so in Melee/Brawl.

It would be even more ridiculous to have them make canon noises when Pikachu and Jiggs don't.

Also, seriously, they're both telepathic, in the anime and the games.
Pichu didn't have any Dex entries before Melee that stated it hurt itself, closest is the Silver entry which states that it can startle itself by using electricity.

Lucario can only read auras according to its Dex entries, it doesn't fight with aura moves aside from Aura Sphere, and it doesn't become stronger from losing health either, though to be honest I'm not sure if it does that in the movie either since I haven't watched it. His B-moves are all actual moves in the games because the moves used in the anime are exactly just that too.

Also, I think X & Y pretty much established Lucario can't speak, so the telepathic excuse doesn't really cut it (and isn't stated in regards to Lucario in the games either.) Though to be fair of course X & Y wasn't out by the time Brawl was out. I can buy the Pokéspeak explanation in regards to Lucario and Mewtwo though, you're right that it'd be odd otherwise, but that still originated from the anime.
 
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So if you breed a new one can we call it mewfour? XD
Silly Networker1, you know very well that Legendaries can't breed for some unexplained BS reason! =D

Nevermind the fact that many stories within the games and the anime have baby versions of legendaries or mentions of them anyways. XD
 

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Well guys, since we have a different/female Mewtwo, why not include both in Smash (as they are both "Mewtwo")? We could start out with the female one, but have the male as an alternate costume. The main way to seperate them is different alt colors and a different pose on the select screen.

Of course everyone wants armored Mewtwo though....
 

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Well guys, since we have a different/female Mewtwo, why not include both in Smash (as they are both "Mewtwo")? We could start out with the female one, but have the male as an alternate costume. The main way to seperate them is different alt colors and a different pose on the select screen.

Of course everyone wants armored Mewtwo though....
There's really no point of doing that if they look almost exactly alike. At this point, I'll take the new Mewtwo, thanks to its ability to change into Mega Mewtwo Y.
 

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oh you.

seriously SWF? kept a quote from yesterday...... *sorry morbid*
Wat?

Dammit I knew that was coming xD
Like all things to come, it was inevitable :mewtwomelee:.

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There's really no point of doing that if they look almost exactly alike. At this point, I'll take the new Mewtwo, thanks to its ability to change into Mega Mewtwo Y.
If they opted not to do that, then I'd take old Mewtwo. I mean honestly would you pick that new chick over DAN GREEN (or the first one)!?

http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/voice-compare/Pokemon/Mewtwo/

My alt costume suggestion would be kinda silly, but you'd basically get two different characters (technically), more alt colors (and for team colors, have them swapped around or changed [ex: green belly/tail turns to completely green body with the tinted skin on belly/tail]), and different voices for variety when playing.
 
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Yeah I posted it right after he linked it.
Well, I gotta say, it's pretty ****ing weird. I've watched only the first movie though, so I don't know the reason behind the change.
I read it's actually a different female Mewtwo? If that's the case I can accept it, but they still chose a pretty bland voice. I would've liked the voice of an old woman, for example.

I don't think this means anything for Sm4sh though, if Mewtwo actually comes back they'll probably give him the dub of Melee remade for the occasion. Dat taunt laugh
 

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If they opted not to do that, then I'd take old Mewtwo. I mean honestly would you pick that new chick over DAN GREEN (or the first one)!?

http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/voice-compare/Pokemon/Mewtwo/

My alt costume suggestion would be kinda silly, but you'd basically get two different characters (technically), more alt colors (and for team colors, have them swapped around or changed [ex: green belly/tail turns to completely green body with the tinted skin on belly/tail]), and different voices for variety when playing.
Mewtwo is hardly who I would call a villain now. The new Mewtwo may not be malevolent like the old Mewtwo, but it still shows a cold heart towards humans.
 

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There's not really a Pokemon we could call a villain now except Darkrai and Giratina I suppose...and Meowth
 

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If Mewtwo does come back it would be pretty cool in the beginning of a match if you hold x you get mewtwo's mega evolution from x, and y you get the mega evolution from y
 

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If Mewtwo does come back it would be pretty cool in the beginning of a match if you hold x you get mewtwo's mega evolution from x, and y you get the mega evolution from y
How have I not heard this idea before? That's hilariously awesome. :laugh:
 
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