Miiverse Daily Pic Thread: 2nd Edition (Updated 9/19)

[Baskerville]

Oh my god
YES.

 

[Nat Perry]

A Paper Mario stage? That was unexpected.

It's rather interesting that it is a stage based on several games at once. Those are uncommon in Smash.


You have already heard her music in Smash since she also composes for the Fire Emblem series, also by Intelligent Systems.

Yes I know. I just really want to hear her Paper Mario music in Smash in some form.

 

[The Drilling Juggernaut]

> People saying that Mario should stay at 5 characters

Mario is substantially bigger than all of the other franchises in Smash Bros, and has had the biggest impact on the gaming world when compared to practically every other game out there. Mario is an icon, and his series continues to maintain quality and sell incredibly well.

Mario could take up half the roster and it would be justified. But since Smash 64 only included Mario and Luigi that ship has pretty much sailed. In reality though, most reoccurring Mario characters are more recognizable than more than half of the Smash cast.

I'm not saying I want a ton of Mario characters. Mario is my favorite video game series of all time, but I don't want 20 Mario characters just because it's Mario. But 6 is a good number. We're probably getting 6 Pokemon, so I really see no reason why 6 Mario characters can't happen. Paper Mario could bring a lot to the table and represent a side of Mario not yet represented in Smash. So I personally think there's more than enough room for Papes.

So much this. To put it another way Kirby is my favorite series in Smash so far. I would love another character from that series. Hell I'd love two more. Bandana Waddle Dee, Dark Matter, Marx, and Gooey riding Rick would all make great characters and show sides of the series we haven't yet seen in smash. That said, I acknowledge that the series representation is where it needs to be in Smash. Three of the most important characters in the games is all the series really deserves. Mario and Pokemon (especially Mario) are more then justified in taking up massive portions of the roster. They are juggernauts in both the east and west and appeal to the largest audience. Everyone requesting a cap for those series are out of luck. The creators of Smash are going to try to attract the most people. The best way to do that is to add characters from the largest series in the company. Those series are Mario and Pokemon.


To turn this all around back on topic, Paper Mario getting a stage this elaborate really gives a strong indication that he is going to be added, and he may not even be the last Mario character. We could easily get Paper and someone else as well.

 

[Curious Villager]

Honestly, I don't really see much of an issue with Nintendo's flagship franchise getting 6 characters if this is all apparently okay with everyone with Pokemon getting that amount for its cast.

I also don't really have any issues with Paper Mario, Toon Link, Sheik and Zero Suit Samus. I've played all Paper Mario games except Thousand Year Door and I do quite enjoy Mario's paper side so I'm cool with him making it in. It would hopefully also finally resolve all those Mario vs Pokemon representation wars that have been going on for a while.

That's just my opinion though, i'd certainly be very interested to see how Paper Mario would pan out if he did actually make it into the game. Anyway, this a pretty cool looking stage and I'm interested to see what its other form's would be...

 

[praline]

So the good news is that there's a Paper Mario Stage.
Bad news is it's on the 3DS.

 

[Reila]

So the good news is that there's a Paper Mario Stage.
Even better news is it's on the 3DS.

Fixed.

 

[Autumn ♫]

Bad news is it's on the 3DS.

How is that bad news?

 

[TJ-Works]

How is that bad news?

He wants all that paper in glorious 1080p HD 60fps resolution.

Can't beat HD paper.

 

[PK_Wonder]

One thing to keep in mind is that while Mario has 5 characters from that particular universe, Yoshi and Wario are "spiritual Mario reps," even if their logo is different. I understand they are considered different universes within Smash, but they resonate with many as part of the Mario universe. Sakurai clearly recognizes them as standalone series, however. If anything what I am saying helps Paper Mario; and he could easily be represented with his own logo as a spinoff series, like Yoshi and Wario. Perhaps the paper airplane as his universe symbol?

 

[MasterOfKnees]

This week has already been better than many other weeks thus far, revealing the role of a highly speculated character (even if he isn't playable) and showing off a new stage, I think it's going pretty well thus far.

 

[JabbatheHutt]

So the good news is that there's a Paper Mario Stage.
Bad news is it's on the 3DS.

it could be on both!

 

[MrPanic]

Got to be honest, I was kinda hoping they would make a Mario&Luigi stage for the 3ds version and used Paper Mario for a stage on the Wiiu version. I sincerely hope this didn't kill the chance of an M&L stage, but with so many Mario stages on the 3ds already and M&L being a handheld series, I might as well forget about it. Lets hope they'll at least put a few M&L songs in the Wiiu version.

I'm still against Paper Mario as a playable character. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of the Paper Mario series and can definitely see the potential in the moveset. But in the end paper mario will always be just another version of mario, he might be unique and from his own series, he's still just mario. I think Sakurai definitely wants to avoid multiple mario's on the roster, even if it's such a different mario. Also, we already have MrG&W that represents the 2d gimmick perfectly and if Marshal is still going to be a thing he would be a better 2d character as well since those characters have always been 2d while Paper Mario in the end is just a spin-off from Mario. I dunno, logical Paper Mario might be, he would still feel lame as another Mario on a fighting game roster, a slot wasted on a character that's already sorta on the roster that could've been used for a unique character from a totally new franchise. Meh, that's just my opinion I guess. He would be a great addition, but I'll still be annoyed by his presence.

The only hope for a playable Paper rep I have is a Mr.L alt. Dimentio AT would be cool too.

 

[FalKoopa]

I really hope to see a Paper Mario-based item or Assist Trophy.

Any partner/pixl (preferably partner) would be great. And Paper Mario enemies in Smash Run would seal the deal for me. .

 

[TaichiYaegashi]

I'm still against Paper Mario as a playable character. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of the Paper Mario series and can definitely see the potential in the moveset. But in the end paper mario will always be just another version of mario, he might be unique and from his own series, he's still just mario. I think Sakurai definitely wants to avoid multiple mario's on the roster, even if it's such a different mario. Also, we already have MrG&W that represents the 2d gimmick perfectly and if Marshal is still going to be a thing he would be a better 2d character as well since those characters have always been 2d while Paper Mario in the end is just a spin-off from Mario. I dunno, logical Paper Mario might be, he would still feel lame as another Mario on a fighting game roster, a slot wasted on a character that's already sorta on the roster that could've been used for a unique character from a totally new franchise. Meh, that's just my opinion I guess. He would be a great addition, but I'll still be annoyed by his presence.

Sounds more like you putting words in his mouth.

Two Links are on the roster and I'd say that's very relatable. Mario and Paper Mario, Link and Toon Link.

Edit: That too ↓

 

[Curious Villager]

Yeah I don't really think he's trying to avoid having multiples of the same characters all that much seeing as how we have Link & Toon Link, Samus & Zero Suit Samus and Zelda & Sheik all as separate characters in these games....

 

[praline]

How is that bad news?

Because it's only gonna get 2 songs! Paper Mario has some of the best music in Nintendo's repetoire.

If there's a Wii U stage as well then I won't be mad at all.

 

[Silent Hell]

Sounds more like you putting words in his mouth.

Two Links are on the roster and I'd say that's very relatable. Mario and Paper Mario, Link and Toon Link.

Edit: That too ↓

Except those two versions of Link are literally different people where as both Mario and Paper Mario are THE SAME.

I really hope Paper Mario isn't a newcomer. That's another character slot that could have been given to a different character from a lesser represented series/new series. Just because there is a stage with a unique art assets doesn't mean it confirms a newcomer. It just means Mario gets yet another stage. If a stge was made for Kirby's Epic Yarn would that confirm Yarn Kirby or Prince Fluff? IDTS.

 

[praline]

I wouldn't say Mario and Paper Mario are the same person exactly. They are more or less AU's of eachother so it'd make as much sense as Toon Link/Link being playable.

Also Mario and Dr. Mario were both playable in the same game so saying they're the same person is not a valid reason for why Paper Mario should not be playable.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

I wouldn't say Mario and Paper Mario are the same person exactly. They are more or less AU's of eachother so it'd make as much sense as Toon Link/Link being playable.

Also Mario and Dr. Mario were both playable in the same game so saying they're the same person is not a valid reason for why Paper Mario should not be playable.

No, it's still very valid. Dr. Mario shouldn't have been anything more than an alternate costume. Thankfully, he was exempt from Brawl, so everything is as it should be.

I don't consider the Paper Mario series to be an alternate universe at all since it's clearly still based off of many thing from the main games. It's just the Mario series with a different look and style in a different genre, but it's still Mario nonetheless.

And if it looks like Mario, walks like Mario and jumps like Mario, then guess what? It's Mario.

 

[Duck$mash]

Paper Mario confirmed! Yes. Yes.. YES! YEESSSS!!! Please!!

Where is our 4P fighter, I wonder?
And where (who?) are our fighters running to? WHO'S ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THAT STAGE?!?

 

[PaperJames]

So id love to hear other peoples wishes/ ideas on what other stages will be apart of the Paper Mario stage. Id love to see the Battle Stage, Glitz Pit, Boo's Mansion, or Star Haven.

 

[praline]

No, it's still very valid. Dr. Mario shouldn't have been anything more than an alternate costume. Thankfully, he was exempt from Brawl, so everything is as it should be.

I don't consider the Paper Mario series to be an alternate universe at all since it's clearly still based off of many thing from the main games. It's just the Mario series with a different look and style in a different genre, but it's still Mario nonetheless.

And if it looks like Mario, walks like Mario and jumps like Mario, then guess what? It's Mario.

Well then fine. Smash 4 has 2 Samus', 2 Zelda's and 2 Link's. Having 2 Mario's isn't that out there.

 

[MasterofMonster]

Just thought of something.

All Three characters in that Picture are running in the same direction. Heavily implies that fan is actually blowing them away. Even more heavily implied is that the bushes are seen flying away as well. ^^

 

[Little_GotenSRK]

Paper Mario stage with TTYD frosting on top? I can't wait for this game to come out of the oven now.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Well then fine. Smash 4 has 2 Samus', 2 Zelda's and 2 Link's. Having 2 Mario's isn't that out there.

The 2 Samuses look nothing alike, so it's okay.

Zelda and Sheik might as well be two different people now from their looks and moves. In short, they look and sound completely different, so that's okay.

The 2 Links, on the other hand, is just lazy BS we have no choice but to deal with cause Sakurai gonna Sakurai. lol

2 Marios is entirely unnecessary. I'd rather have the Chorus Men if we're really relegated to only lackluster ideas and choices.

On the other hand, I'll still take Paper Mario and even Toad over Bowser Jr. ¦D

 

[Curious Villager]

So the issue is more about how similar they look rather than who they are? Because even Link and Toon Link are vastly different people if you where to look at it from a technical viewpoint compared to either the two Samus's or Zelda's who unlike the Link's. Actually are the same people.

But eh, like I said, this type of stuff isn't really that big of a deal to me. I'd be cool to see the likes of Paper Mario or Ganon making it in and I'd rather see them before the likes of Daisy or Ghirahim and whatnot (no offence to those who do support them though) but oh well.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Saying two Marios are impossible is pretty silly when we've already had it before, there's really nothing that tells us that he has changed him mind specifically for Mario since then.

 

[praline]

So the issue is more about how similar they look rather than who they are? Because even Link and Toon Link are vastly different people if you where to look at it from a technical viewpoint compared to either the two Samus's or Zelda's who unlike the Link's. Actually are the same people.

But eh, like I said, this type of stuff isn't really that big of a deal to me. I'd be cool to see the likes of Paper Mario or Ganon making it in and I'd rather see them before the likes of Daisy or Ghirahim and whatnot but oh well.

Technically since Zelda and Sheik are split you could say they are 2 different people since Zelda is TP Zelda and Sheik is OOT Zelda.

 

[Curious Villager]

Technically since Zelda and Sheik are split you could say they are 2 different people since Zelda is TP Zelda and Sheik is OOT Zelda.

Yeah I suppose you could say that.... Then again, Sheik is apparently in her design which was designed to depict how she would look if TP Zelda used that disguise but yeah. I guess that one could probably go either way depending on how you interpret it I suppose...

 

[Duck$mash]

Isn't Paper Mario a prophesied hero in part of the series? Just as Toon Link was in Windwaker? I think Paper Mario could definitely compare differently from Mario in most ways. For example, Paper Mario doesn't shoot fireballs from his hand, he used the fireflower item.

Just saying, I don't see why the Paper Mario - Mario relationship is any different from Link - Toon Link, though Toon Link actually uses all of/most of the same moves as Link.

 

[Pyra]

Let it be known that Paper Mario and Mario would have an entirely different moveset, unlike Toon Link and Link.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Let it be known that Paper Mario and Mario would have an entirely different moveset, unlike Toon Link and Link.

Plot Twist: He has Game & Watch's moveset with certain parts of the things used replaced with Paper Mario peripherals and replaces G&W in the roster.

 

[praline]

Plot Twist: He has Game & Watch's moveset with certain parts of the things used replaced with Paper Mario peripherals and replaces G&W in the roster.

I'd be fine with it.

 

[Curious Villager]

Watch as Sakurai turns him into a semi clone of Mr. Game & Watch for this game.
Just so long as his playstyle is fine and he isn't broken then then that's good enough for me I guess.....

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

I'd be fine with it.

Honestly, despite joking, making a reference and all of what I said on the last few pages, I probably would be too.

But that's probably because of this.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6RQFeUk2cQ

 

[Pyra]

Honestly, despite joking, making a reference and all of what I said on the last few pages, I probably would be too.

But that's probably because of this.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6RQFeUk2cQ

I'll take it! Works for me!

 

[Duck$mash]

Honestly, despite joking, making a reference and all of what I said on the last few pages, I probably would be too.

But that's probably because of this.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6RQFeUk2cQ

I've seen that, awesome video and mod. Though the model isn't perfect (how could it be?), it's the best way Paper Mario is defined. Of course he'd have more fluid motions, like his feet peddling away at the floor.

EDIT:: How cute and irresistible is he, though?
"Look at my sticker collection!"

 

[Louie G.]

I kinda like how Paper Mario would be 2.5-D, leaving lots of room for G&W and Chorus Kids too feel unique and completely different. His hammer usually shows up as a 3D model, and considering that's what he would use for a majority of attacks...
Plus his paper airplane form and such. He would be 2D, but a distinct style of 2D where the model itself is flat but the attacks feature 3D objects.

Paper Mario should really feel like you're playing as paper. Floppy, light, and floaty.

I really hope he makes it now. He's got so much potential to be fun and unique.

 

[MrPanic]

Like I'd said before, Paper Mario himself would just be fine. It's the idea of Sakurai wasting development time to create a new character our of another Mario while he could be making Isaac, Chrom Shulk or Ridley that bugs me. Why make another Mario character while enough other franchises are left worth representing? Seems like a serious decision to me.

If Paper Mario ends up as a clone of G&W I wouldn't mind him at all though.

 

[Louie G.]

Like I'd said before, Paper Mario himself would just be fine. It's the idea of Sakurai wasting development time to create a new character our of another Mario while he could be making Isaac, Chrom or Ridley that bugs me. Why make another Mario character while enough other franchises are left worth representing? Seems like a serious decision to me.

If Paper Mario ends up as a clone of G&W I wouldn't mind him at all though.

Paper Mario would have as much to do with the exclusion of any of those characters as any other character on the roster.
And the last thing FE needs is more representation.

Plus, if a character was never planned, then Paper Mario definitely wouldn't get in their way. Characters like Ridley and Isaac were probably included/excluded from the very beginning, no Mario character would change that.