Miiverse Daily Pic Thread: 2nd Edition (Updated 9/19)

[Kenith]

Hmm, that actually reminds me, how exactly will there be not one, but two variations of Substitute?

Because there's two variations of every move? What are you asking?

 

[Krysco]

I'm alright with the Miis as an addition and moveset-wise they far surpassed my expectations but good lord are they ever hideous to look at. Anyways, Shurikens of light...because normal shuikens are too mainstream, whatever the heck a chakram is. I'm assuming just a sharp metal throwing ring. Finally the Gale Strike, sounds to me like the KI rock club thing's smash attack turned into a special.

Not a bad update at all, just an ugly one.

 

[Ryuutakeshi]

Those... are not moves I expected on the swordfighter.

 

[Shaya]

Swordfighter isn't shooting out tornados, he's shooting out Meta Knights.
Let's all enjoy our balanced Mii overlords.

 

[asia_catdog_blue]

But one of Greninja's substitutes actually involves a log instead of the doll. I think it was in the invitational.

I do wonder if there really would be another ninja based character after the miis.

So, the Kero Shinobi has more than one scapegoat? Sakurai would add something as pointless as that(only the doll was needed in my opinion). Also what other ninja/assassins do Nintendo have left that actually matter? Anna?

And this is what I mean about the customization of the Mii Fighters. I say there's not enough content to justified the Miis playable.

Someone want to make a Mii out of the vampiric Digimon? Sure, they have the clothes and fighting styles, but no ability to use a whip or mace for his "Crimson Lighting" nor any "Grisly Wing" spam is a little down settling and lacking.

And the characters from Tales of Symphonia for the Nintendo Gamecube...

Lloyd Irving duel wields Eastern-style swords(which itself is already a problem concerning holding items) and the Mii Swordfighter's weapon is clearly Western-based(which we already have enough of until Issac). And I doubt there will be an option to have your Swordfighter wear suspenders.

Colette Brunel duel wield chakrams at close range. She won't accept any other weapon. Also, there doesn't seem to be a Light -Elemental choice.

Genis Sage relies more on long-range magic than close-range combat, using a toy that clearly wouldn't be executed well in SSB.

Kratos Aurion could work well, but lack of shield nor holy magic would cripple him

Raine Sage SUCKS at close range action. she need a staff, long-range magic and status afflictions. None of the Mii Styles works for her.

Sheena Fujibayashi is not a bruiser. She's swift, skilled and relies on multi-hits... and talismans. A ninjutsu style is neede for her. And don't get me started on the summons.

Zelos Wilder has the same drawbacks as Kratos.

Presea Combatir needs an AXE(or a hammer)! Any other weapon is an insult. Also, it needs to be heavy!

Regal Bryant made a vow to never punch, as his fist would disintegrate anything and EVERYTHING! And Smash isn't that much of a place of characters that only kick(Mccloud has two punches).

And that's just the protagonists. You now see the lacking concept of the MII Fighters, don't ya? Play as everyone, my rump.

 

[Kamikazek]

Ya know?

I really should make more Miis.

I can make a Collete Brunel Mii and make her chuck Chakrams all day.

Heck, I should just make the whole Symphonia cast.

And maybe the Ace Attorney one.

Seems like the Mii Swordsman would be really good for a Zelos character. Give a brawler all kick special moves(there's at least one move for each special move that uses feet) and make Regal, take a blaster and make...Forcystus I guess? That'll be the the funnest part of the Miis for me, trying to arrange the head, clothing, and moveset to best represent established characters. I dig that kind of thing.

Speaking of I wonder if we'll get sets of Mii clothing that are designed to look like certain Nintendo-and dare I dream, Capcom Namco or Sega-characters that aren't playable? Like in soul caliber 3 they had a full on KOS-MOS costume for custom characters and in 5 I think they had some Tekken characters? Of course I sure some people would take it as a unforgivable insult to whichever characters you can dress as but I think it'd be cool.

 

[Erimir]

Ya know?

I really should make more Miis.

I can make a Collete Brunel Mii and make her chuck Chakrams all day.

Yeah... or you could make Xena chuck chakrams all day.

 

[Kamikazek]

Yeah... or you could make Xena chuck chakrams all day.

Or you could just play Xena: Warrior Princess - The Talisman of Fate for the N64. In fact I don't know why anyone would ever play Smashbros when they could play a beautifully designed fighting game like Talisman of Fa-ahahahahahahahaha oh man sorry I just couldn't say that with a straight face.

 

[Erimir]

How do you even know about that game?

 

[Kamikazek]

How do you even know about that game?

'Cause I've played it! Why who hasn't? And other great games like Dark Void! Bargain bin classics is what they are!

I also used to be a big Xena fan when I was a young'n.

 

[Admiral Pit]

Pic of the day. Here are some weapons the Mii Swordfighter can use: Shurikens of Light, Chakrams, and Gale Strikes. You can control the direction the Chakram is thrown, or even make it stall in midair. The Chakram is also the only one of these tied to the side special move, so you can use one of the other items consecutively with this one.

While personally I am by no means fond of Miis, I actually find this information potentially useful. Now that we know that the Chakram is for Side-B, it could almost be implied that the Shurikens and Gale Strikes can be tied to Neutral B, but I'm curious if those moves could also be Side-B, too if you don't choose Chakram. In other words, I wonder if certain moves can be chosen as one or the other (like if you can choose Shuriken to be between neutral B or Side-B) for example.
If that's actually possible in customization for a move to be chosen as one of 2 special move spots, then this may actually be a big thing for Palutena as well. That's just a theory that may or may not be right, but what do I know?

 

[RhymesWithEmpty]

Nah, Sakurai specifically states that the chakram is the only one tied to the side b, so the other two must just be neutral b or some other attack. He just wanted to make a point of saying you could combine another ranged attack with the chakrams, since they have different inputs.

We also have this image from their trailer, which very strongly suggests that alternate moves are tied to a specific input. It could change, or just be very misleading, but right now it doesn't seem like they can be switched around to different inputs.

 

[Frostwraith]

Nah, Sakurai specifically states that the chakram is the only one tied to the side b, so the other two must just be neutral b or some other attack. He just wanted to make a point of saying you could combine another ranged attack with the chakrams, since they have different inputs.

We also have this image from their trailer, which very strongly suggests that alternate moves are tied to a specific input. It could change, or just be very misleading, but right now it doesn't seem like they can be switched around to different inputs.

Special move customization is basically choosing between three special moves for each direction.

They are usually variants of the default move, but in the case of the Mii Fighters and Palutena, they are completely different moves.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

So three special moves confirmed in a single picture. I fail to see what's wrong with this.

 

[MasterofMonster]

*smokes cigarr*

"I'm back, baby!"

The massive amount of hate Smash 4 got right after it's playability made me stay away from here for some Days. But I am back now! Shame no one known me, or else I would look cool now.

So, Mii Projectiles. Neat. They are certanly varied.

 

[kylexv]

Yay! No filler pic! This is a good sign. We got like 2 weeks of filler pics after the direct.

 

[RhymesWithEmpty]

Special move customization is basically choosing between three special moves for each direction.

They are usually variants of the default move, but in the case of the Mii Fighters and Palutena, they are completely different moves.

Yeah, that's what I was saying in a nutshell, in response to Admiral Pit. Probably should've quoted them to make it clear, but quoting somebody when you're the next post down always seemed a bit silly to me XD

So, what percentage of the Mii Fighters' moves do we think will be copied from other fighters, if that is what's happening? The Brawler's knee attack could be C. Falcon's, and one of those down specials could be from Sonic... one of the uppercuts might be Little Mac's? It's hard to say. At first I thought it was coincidental, but today's pic has me questioning that.

 

[Frostwraith]

Yay! No filler pic! This is a good sign. We got like 2 weeks of filler pics after the direct.

Don't jinx it.

*smokes cigarr*

"I'm back, baby!"

The massive amount of hate Smash 4 got right after it's playability made me stay away from here for some Days. But I am back now! Shame no one known me, or else I would look cool now.

So, Mii Projectiles. Neat. They are certanly varied.

You didn't lose much, since these boards were completely chaotic.

 

[Vintage Creep]

I don't know if I like Mii's movesets honestly. I've never been against their inclusion, but I hoped they would've been a Mr. Game & Watch / Villager-like character. Having their moves taken from various "Wii" titles like Sports, Party, or even NintendoLand.
Like this, they're pretty weird. I don't know. Also, 36 moves for them seems way too much, but I really don't like all this "custom moveset" thing to begin with.

This is the only complaint / worry I have about Sm4sh U, and I hope that I'll change my mind playing.

 

[MasterofMonster]

Don't jinx it.


You didn't lose much, since these boards were completely chaotic.

Yeah, that's what I Heard on SmashGaf. :/ So much chaos. And most of it is illogical anyways. But oh well, I hope it will stay calm and nice here for now.

So, yeah, good Pic of the Day. ^^ I am curious about, though, how often/rarely Veterans will be revealed now. The release is not THAT far away, and there's a LOT of characters to be shown, even if they do keep some hidden.

 

[Frostwraith]

I patiently await the moment Sakurai announces Mr. Game & Watch (as a veteran character) and Dark Pit (as a Pit alt since I think he's not getting as a character at this point). Those teases got me anxious for the next pictures.

I would also really like to see if Ganondorf was revamped or not, but he might be a secret character (again) and will probably have to wait until September (when the roster leaks game releases in Japan). Same for Mewtwo's return.

 

[Spazzy_D]

My old roommate and I used to make a lot of Mii's for fun. We wouldn't start out trying to make anyone in particular, we would just mess around with the interface until a Mii started looking like Janet Reno, Dr. Zaius from Planet of the Apes, Jared Leto, V from V for Vandetta, etc.

I lost a lot of these Mii's due to memory failure in my original Wii and from the process of moving Mii's from Wii to Wii and finally to my Wii U. One of the only Mii's I have from that time is Lucy Lawless....

I HAVE to make a playable Xena Mii. It's destiny.

 

[Kamikazek]

Crap did I just report Frostwraith's post here? I poked part of my screen nowhere near the report button and the report window popped up and then immediately disappeared, I'm not sure what happened. My touch screen is insane.

What happens if you report a mod's post? Does it bounce off and report one of your posts?

 

[Frostwraith]

Crap did I just report Frostwraith's post here? I poked part of my screen nowhere near the report button and the report window popped up and then immediately disappeared, I'm not sure what happened. My touch screen is insane.

What happens if you report a mod's post? Does it bounce off and report one of your posts?

For your information, you didn't report anything.

I can see any reported posts on the SSB4 forums, mine included.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Hmm thats a first no comment from sakurai on the potd.

But juding by this we found the mii swordsman side special(s)

And as for takamaru its worse now, not only greninja now one of the mii specials for the swords man.

 

[spader13]

Hopefully we get a few more moveset updates like this one this week. Learning more about the new characters or custom moves for veterans would both be interesting.

 

[Bauske]

Nah, Sakurai specifically states that the chakram is the only one tied to the side b, so the other two must just be neutral b or some other attack. He just wanted to make a point of saying you could combine another ranged attack with the chakrams, since they have different inputs.

We also have this image from their trailer, which very strongly suggests that alternate moves are tied to a specific input. It could change, or just be very misleading, but right now it doesn't seem like they can be switched around to different inputs.

The Miis really confuse me. That's a LOT of work put into a character that won't even be playable online.

 

[Wegenbarth]

I don't know if I like Mii's movesets honestly. I've never been against their inclusion, but I hoped they would've been a Mr. Game & Watch / Villager-like character. Having their moves taken from various "Wii" titles like Sports, Party, or even NintendoLand.
Like this, they're pretty weird. I don't know. Also, 36 moves for them seems way too much, but I really don't like all this "custom moveset" thing to begin with.

This is the only complaint / worry I have about Sm4sh U, and I hope that I'll change my mind playing.

You complain about the only thing the Miis have which made me not hate them. Okay.

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

GRENINJA CLONES CONFIRMED!

 

[ToothiestAura]

The Miis really confuse me. That's a LOT of work put into a character that won't even be playable online.

>Implying Nintendo doesn't know that local multiplayer is the most important.
Come on.

 

[Nintendotard]

The Miis really confuse me. That's a LOT of work put into a character that won't even be playable online.

That still bugs me. The Miis should have our first me that we created (in most cases ourselves) on our account locked onto our online account for Anyone. I doubt any one here's first Mii was Hitler or a Penis or anything else of that nature.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

That still bugs me. The Miis should have our first me that we created (in most cases ourselves) on our account locked onto our online account for Anyone. I doubt any one here's first Mii was Hitler or a Penis or anything else of that nature.

The main reason was moveset customization. But let's be honest, people make widely offensive Mii's. Cutting that problem out is a good thing anyway. I've already seen people brag about a Stalin Mii. And I do mean brag. I could deal with it if I saw it and roll my eyes, but not when they brag about it. That's just horrible. Whether one can agree with customization or not for moves being online, the fact people use Miis like that? Yeah, making that only among friends was one of the better ideas. Also, anecdotal evidence. You only need one instance of people doing it badly to show it happens. Ask many people about Mario Kart Wii, and offensive Miis are talked about. Maybe not terribly often, but they exist. And there's no real way to stop it from working beyond banning that user or making it unavailable for "random" battles/matches/races/etc.

 

[Frostwraith]

Regarding Miis and their unavailability to use on online games with anyone, I found this interesting perspective on TV Tropes:

People assume that the Mii Fighters aren't allowed when playing With Anyone online because of the potential for offensive and tasteless Miis. However, their exclusion has a deeper significance when you think about it. With Anyone is supposed to be anonymous, and thus in addition to things such as a lack of names and custom moves, your opponent isn't even supposed have an idea of what you actually look like, as Miis are, fundamentally, your Digital Avatar.

 

[Nintendotard]

The main reason was moveset customization. But let's be honest, people make widely offensive Mii's. Cutting that problem out is a good thing anyway. I've already seen people brag about a Stalin Mii. And I do mean brag. I could deal with it if I saw it and roll my eyes, but not when they brag about it. That's just horrible. Whether one can agree with customization or not for moves being online, the fact people use Miis like that? Yeah, making that only among friends was one of the better ideas. Also, anecdotal evidence. You only need one instance of people doing it badly to show it happens. Ask many people about Mario Kart Wii, and offensive Miis are talked about. Maybe not terribly often, but they exist. And there's no real way to stop it from working beyond banning that user or making it unavailable for "random" battles/matches/races/etc.

But if the move customization will be a problem, what's Palutena's fate?

Regarding Miis and their unavailability to use on online games with anyone, I found this interesting perspective on TV Tropes:

....hmm...never thought of it like that...but I mean, the simple task of fixing this is that the Miis would just be called "Mii" or "Mii Fighter". No name display would be shown...right? Not like in Mario Kart

 

[Amazing Ampharos]

They really should allow generic pre-made Miis to be usable online as effectively banning three characters from that mode is kinda a big deal whereas how the Mii looks really isn't. Of course, if online is like Brawl's anyway, none of this will matter so I guess we wait and see either way.

 

[Oniric Spriter]

But if the move customization will be a problem, what's Palutena's fate?

She'll use her default moves.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

They really should allow generic pre-made Miis to be usable online as effectively banning three characters from that mode is kinda a big deal whereas how the Mii looks really isn't. Of course, if online is like Brawl's anyway, none of this will matter so I guess we wait and see either way.

They are usable online. Just not with random people. It's being forced that you need to know the person to do so. That way, if you make an offensive Mii, you're at least doing it with your friends as a joke and won't cause any unnecessary trouble.

Similar reason for general customization. Let's be honest, the matches can get unfair with that kind of stuff, so you could really make a person not want to play much if you have a really ridiculous moveset available and they don't. The point of With Anyone is for purely casual play at that point(not counting For Glory, which is separate), where nobody is at an advantage beyond the fact they have a better character in general.

 

[Inawordyes]

Because there's two variations of every move? What are you asking?

Well, Substitute is a pretty straight-forward move, and since it wasn't mentioned that Greninja had completely different moves in the how-to article, I'm curious as to how exactly and what exactly they can do to make variations of Substitute.

 

[RhymesWithEmpty]

Guys, how often are you going to be playing the With Anyone matches anyways? Half of the fun is playing with your friends, you might as well just fight 3 CPUs if you're going to play With Anyone

 

[Nintendotard]

Guys, how often are you going to be playing the With Anyone matches anyways? Half of the fun is playing with your friends, you might as well just fight 3 CPUs if you're going to play With Anyone

Hmm...you've got a point. I need to register the lot of you when it comes out!