Miiverse Daily Pic Thread: 2nd Edition (Updated 9/19)

[Krysco]

Eruption! A move that has...no inspiration from anything Ike has ever done in PoR or RD...I mean people are disappointed about the lack of blue flames again which would have done nothing but actually nod at something that Ike does, even if it's only once! Doesn't help that the move is damn near useless too. It has super armor but it's too damn laggy to be of any use. Sorry Ike )= you're stuck with a useless neutral special again. I know your pain, I use Ganon...

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Is that Mario's tripping pose?

I can't tell.

 

[Kenith]

It would have made more sense if the order of this week's pictures were reversed.

 

[JOE!]

and again: I wonder how we can customize Eruption?

 

[Hayzie]

Eruption! A move that has...no inspiration from anything Ike has ever done in PoR or RD...I mean people are disappointed about the lack of blue flames again which would have done nothing but actually nod at something that Ike does, even if it's only once! Doesn't help that the move is damn near useless too. It has super armor but it's too damn laggy to be of any use. Sorry Ike )= you're stuck with a useless neutral special again. I know your pain, I use Ganon...

I like the move, but I wonder how useful it was competitively? The joy of strong characters who have time-delayed moves is the satisfaction of performing them and having them connect. Which is why I love heavyasaCannondorf. I wonder if the hitboxes for it are bigger now? Would help probably.

 

[Bravetriforcer]

Is that Mario's tripping pose?

I can't tell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJKCgtUDCJ4&feature=youtu.be&t=1m10s

plz no triperino.

 

[Saint Johns]

It WOULD be nice a character a week until E3, but at this point, I'm going to assume nothing 'too big' tomorrow.

Ridley confirmed!

 

[QJD1381]

Maybe I'm seeing things, but I swear It looks like Ike has a goatee in this pic.

 

[mygamecube]

It's clear tripping is back in some form, that's for sure.

I don't care as long as it's not random.

 

[Bravetriforcer]

It's clear tripping is back in some form, that's for sure.

I don't care as long as it's not random.

I wouldn't mind if it was a ludicrous Special Brawl option. Like every 5th time you dash it's a trip.

 

[ToothiestAura]

Well, this is just great.

First, Tueday brings us a not-so-subtle hint as to Ike's recovery still being weak.

Now, we get Eruption's return.

At this rate, tomorrow's pic will be:

"Pic of the day. Fear not Brawl fans, Ike retains his slow movement and attack speed! His changes are purely cosmetic."

 

[UberMadman]

Hasn't anyone noticed yet that the Ragnell now emits a white ring at stage 8 now, while before it was really hard to tell when you had to let go before you took recoil and got less knockback? That's what Sakurai is commenting on in the picture.

 

[Krysco]

I like the move, but I wonder how useful it was competitively? The joy of strong characters who have time-delayed moves is the satisfaction of performing them and having them connect. Which is why I love heavyasaCannondorf. I wonder if the hitboxes for it are bigger now? Would help probably.

I never cared for the move. With Warlock Punch I could at least use Flight of Ganon and then a reverse Warlock Punch and hit people every now and then on basic brawl because of all the chaos and people wondering how Ganon even did what he did xD. Competitively I'm pretty sure Eruption is useless, might have some small niche use that's rarely used. A bigger hitbox would help, would make the move less punishable mainly since you're more likely to hit your opponent.

 

[Hayzie]

It's clear tripping is back in some form, that's for sure.

I don't care as long as it's not random.

It may just be a staggering effect as a result of Eruption hitting it's peak. Sakurai already confirmed tripping is gone. Why would you do this to me?

 

[Deleted member]

It's clear tripping is back in some form, that's for sure.

I don't care as long as it's not random.

I'm pretty sure Sakurai has already said random tripping won't return.
It's like you guys forget this whenever a character is shown tripping.

 

[Amazing Ampharos]

The way that comment is written suggests it wasn't just an oversight in Brawl that "flash" Eruption was better than max charge in every way.

Also, Eruption was not a useless special move in Brawl. The super armor was very useful for escaping juggle situations, something Ike otherwise had very poor options for (easier in that situation than Counter!). It was hardly Ike's #1 move, but I wouldn't conflate it with Warlock Punch at all.

 

[FalKoopa]

Darn... So the move is exactly the same as in Brawl. :/ No blue flames.

I like Mario's expression though.

 

[relaxedexcorcist]

Maybe Ike sheer manlyless cause Mario to lose control of his legs.

I wouldn't mind if it was a ludicrous Special Brawl option. Like every 5th time you dash it's a trip.

It could be a funny Smash Run mode. Slippery matches.

 

[MasterofMonster]

The Girls sure loves it when Ike Erupts.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

The Girls sure loves it when Ike Erupts.

Except for the fact he usually erupts too early

 

[ToothiestAura]

The way that comment is written suggests it wasn't just an oversight in Brawl that "flash" Eruption was better than max charge in every way.

Also, Eruption was not a useless special move in Brawl. The super armor was very useful for escaping juggle situations, something Ike otherwise had very poor options for (easier in that situation than Counter!). It was hardly Ike's #1 move, but I wouldn't conflate it with Warlock Punch at all.

It wasn't awful. A projectile would have just been useful in more situations.

 

[Shroob]

So yeah, bets for tomorrow? I honestly have no idea. It's been a looooooong time since we've gotten a stage, so I'll go with that. Granted, this week has been pretty low key, so maybe this is just some downtime post-reveal.

 

[ToothiestAura]

Except for the fact he usually erupts too early

It's alright, he gets punished for it.

 

[Hayzie]

Any pic is welcomed, really. The dojo months during Brawl was something new everyday, but it all boiled down to item, character, assist trophy, trophy... just random with no caption. No details or tidbits on changes like Sakurai is doing with SSB4. They're random and he likes to break the formula he just created that he knows we get used to and makes us look out for more. These updates are amazing to have... wish all devs would do this type of thing.

Stage sounds good.

 

[Baskerville]

No blue flames.
Such attention to detail.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I'm pretty sure Sakurai has already said random tripping won't return.
It's like you guys forget this whenever a character is shown tripping.

You're definitely wrong. He only outright said "Tripping definitely will not return", never specifying any kind whatsoever.

While the interviewer's question seems to imply he meant Tripping, Sakuria himself made zero implications if he understood that kind was being implied as well. It was just a straight answer.

There is no confirmation of random tripping gone and never was. Just people taking a vague statement at face value. In reality, he said tripping would not return, and tripping returned. It's very possible he simply changed his mind and that's all it was. It's also just as possible he was referring to random tripping, but didn't actually imply it himself. Also, the interview's source is surprisingly lacking. You'd think he'd post a picture of the original interview, but that's all lost to the Twitter's natural deletion of older messages. The real message is gone, and we have a "this guy says so" for a source, which isn't reliable enough to confirm things, nor was the original interview more than overall vague at best. Likewise, implications aren't good for confirming stuff anyway. They still are vague and hard to take as facts, as they are always open for interpretation period. It's the same reason why we don't say he confirmed random tripping is gone on the SmashWiki(namely because that'd actually be lying due to bias, ignoring the fact Sakurai didn't imply a thing himself).

 

[Deleted member]

You're definitely wrong. He only outright said "Tripping definitely will not return", never specifying any kind whatsoever.

While the interviewer's question seems to imply he meant Tripping, Sakuria himself made zero implications if he understood that kind was being implied as well. It was just a straight answer.

There is no confirmation of random tripping gone and never was. Just people taking a vague statement at face value. In reality, he said tripping would not return, and tripping returned. It's very possible he simply changed his mind and that's all it was. It's also just as possible he was referring to random tripping, but didn't actually imply it himself. Also, the interview's source is surprisingly lacking. You'd think he'd post a picture of the original interview, but that's all lost to the Twitter's natural deletion of older messages. The real message is gone, and we have a "this guy says so" for a source, which isn't reliable enough to confirm things, nor was the original interview more than overall vague at best. Likewise, implications aren't good for confirming stuff anyway. They still are vague and hard to take as facts, as they are always open for interpretation period. It's the same reason why we don't say he confirmed random tripping is gone on the SmashWiki(namely because that'd actually be lying due to bias, ignoring the fact Sakurai didn't imply a thing himself).

We only know that forced tripping is back (eg. Diddy's bananas) , but we're still left in the dark on what happened to random tripping. I'll admit that it was somewhat hasty of me to just say "GAIS RANDOM TRIPPING ISN'T BACK" but it definitely seems that that's the case, considering in all of the gameplay we have we have not yet seen a character trip randomly, we have word from Sakurai that it won't be returning (but like you said that's up in the air, and it's fairly vague), and they seem to be cutting down on random elements (Dedede only throwing Gordos, Olimar plucking Pikmin in a fixed order).

On an off note it does say on the Smash 4's SmashWiki page that tripping won't be returning.

 

[Bauske]

I'm pretty sure Sakurai has already said random tripping won't return.
It's like you guys forget this whenever a character is shown tripping.

Exactly this. I have no problem with tripping as long as it's an option. So long as I can turn it off if I desire, I'm okay with it being in the game. But nothing is worse than trying to have a competitive match, about to land a killing blow, and tripping right into their attack.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

We only know that forced tripping is back (eg. Diddy's bananas) , but we're still left in the dark on what happened to random tripping. I'll admit that it was somewhat hasty of me to just say "GAIS RANDOM TRIPPING ISN'T BACK" but it definitely seems that that's the case, considering in all of the gameplay we have we have not yet seen a character trip randomly, we have word from Sakurai that it won't be returning (but like you said that's up in the air, and it's fairly vague), and they seem to be cutting down on random elements (Dedede only throwing Gordos, Olimar plucking Pikmin in a fixed order).

On an off note it does say on the Smash 4's SmashWiki page that tripping won't be returning.

It also mentions that he "seems to mean random tripping", but it was the same thing as I said. Unless Random Tripping doesn't return period, technically speaking, he didn't exactly tell the truth. At last at face value. Of course, if it does return(whether it can be turned off or not), then he was blatantly lying or changed his mind overall. Either, or. I've dealt with the same crap on a different wiki. There was never a way to tell Sakurai himself meant random tripping period. Even if somehow it doesn't return, it's possible he wasn't referring to that as is. He still could've meant it in general, but changed his mind. That's my issue with the interview as a whole. It's very clear what the context of the interviewer himself meant, but not what Sakurai's reply means. Hell, Sakurai might not have even understood the context of the interviewer, which would possibly be why he was vague.

It's more or less why I hated it was a vague statement. It's too easy to speculate, and the facts are pretty pathetic when looking at it. And while some randomness is gone, that doesn't really indicate all of it will be. Plus, there might be more random stuff coming we haven't seen. We don't even know much about Peach's turnips. I think the lack of some randomness might be to make the programming easier for the 3DS. That said, I think we should've just been able to disable it period. I honestly have zero issues with random tripping besides sometimes competitive matches, and forced tripping is actually more powerful anyway. Also, I fear the Red Shell will be gone yet again if he's killing a lot of random elements. That's literally the only Item I care about that's missing in Brawl. :|

 

[NintendoKnight]

So, did any one notice the giant light ring?

The heck does that mean? Also, since everything its pretty much getting buffed in this game, just how big is Eruption going to be?

 

[Morrigan]

He also said more than once this time around [the apparent 8 year olds that were Smash-initiated with Brawl] players would be more accustomed to the game mechanics which is a hint at all the blatant stupid (random trips) being removed.

 

[Bauske]

So, did any one notice the giant light ring?

The heck does that mean? Also, since everything its pretty much getting buffed in this game, just how big is Eruption going to be?

Sakurai states in the caption that the ring is an indicator of full power, so you know when to release and not take recoil damage.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Also, since everything its pretty much getting buffed in this game, just how big is Eruption going to be?

Islands shall shake in its presence.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Islands shall shake in its presence.

Shake? Well that's weak. They should be completely incinerated. Eruption sucks. 1/10 Would not use.

Also, I see Ike is going to have what most people called an incredibly inaccurate moveset once again with no distance attacks or blue flames and his diehard fans will be mad. As a Sonic fan, I feel their pain.

You had one job, Sakurai. One job. Just goes to show that he still thinks the movesets he made are better than actually accurate ones.

 

[Kamikazek]

If that's Mario's trip animation they completely redid it. In Brawl he tips forward and falls face first. It looks nothing like that.

This is way closer to his down taunt.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

If that's Mario's trip animation they completely redid it. In Brawl he tips forward and falls face first. It looks nothing like that.

This is way closer to his down taunt.

Actually, that's his backwards slip.

Usually happens when you get hit by an item or move.

So, yeah. No random tripping.

 

[IsmaR]

No blue flames.
Such attention to detail.

Obviously they're being saved for Mega Charizard X.

I hope.

Please.

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

Friday is the start of my hardest final. Actually hoping for something good to balance it out.

As for this pic, it's ok.

 

[MasterofMonster]

Really hoping for Wario tomorrow. I mean, it's possible Sakurai Waits for tomorrow, since then he can say "Mario Kart 8 is now released around the World!"

I need to see Wario's gorgeous HD farts.

 

[Luigi#1]

Really hoping for Wario tomorrow. I mean, it's possible Sakurai Waits for tomorrow, since then he can say "Mario Kart 8 is now released around the World!"

I need to see Wario's gorgeous HD farts.

I can wait for E3.