Midnight Ops Mafia: Game Thread. Game Over!

[ExLight]

once I wake up I’ll finish the Z25 ISO I started

 

[ExLight]

I'm not kidding. They literally made theses posts one right after the other. Chaco's gender was kind of obvious considering his speech patterns, username, and avatar. It was quite out of place for Laser to ask this. If he was genuinely trying to get clarification on genders why didn't he ask Dark Pit as well?

I think twas prolly more to call his attention rather than feign ignorance

 

[ExLight]

I’m mildly fine with a Laser lynch today but if he flips traitor I’ll start posting in caps and big bolded red letters to lynch Z25 and Chaco :v

 

[Darkpit54]

It does NOT feel like this should be the end of the phase lol

Honestly Laser flipping traitor would still be a big win for us; it prevents LyLo lol. But I think there's no way Xivii doesn't get counterclaimed if there's a traitor

Gah, I always come back to these posts. I just can't picture scumbuddies Laser and Z making these. They feel too...standoffish I guess?

DP, Exlight, Xivii, Chaco, what do you guys think of these?

I feel like this could probably be scummates distancing, right? I wouldn't clear them as a potential scumteam just for those posts

 

[ExLight]

pit if you’re scum I’m gonna get mad because you were my og scumread :v

 

[Chaco]

I don’t see anyway DP is scum here. If he is we got outplayed hard as hell. Long as we hit scum toDay though we have more time to discern further if a ML happens after.

 

[Chaco]

I’m drunk though so I’m not posting anymore tonight.

 

[LaserGuy]

actually where did boom go in the readslist and why did you vote him later that day if he was a townlean
if your read on him changed at some point can you point out where

that's kind of a fair reads update, not sure why z25 was thrown up there specially after accusing you of pushing drunk me tho

Chaco went from top town read to top scum read in one phase which is pretty odd
Boom being an almost null but being the one they voted earlier is a bit weird

My reads changed significantly after the flip. A lot of my D2 reads are informed by the VCA I did at the start of the day. E.g. Chaco was a Town read in D1 but looked quite bad in light of the Frozen flip as well as subsequent interactions in D2.

if Rajam was your second option why try to split the votes?

I discuss this later, but this basically was that I didn't like how stagnant the wagon had become and wanted to see if scum!Rajam or scum!Boom's buddies would try to save them if the wagons suddenly got close.

You didn't want to lynch who was your top scumread at the EoD of the previous day? what happened?

I thought that both were scum, but that Rajam's flip was more likely to clear/condemn some other players and simplify the PoE.

nevermind he did a 180º and started going after Mala and Raj instead of Chaco and Z25

No? I was trying to understand Xivii's reason for choosing to go after Malakandra over Rajam when I felt his case on Rajam was much stronger. I felt that scum was Rajam/Chaco and if not Chaco then Rajam/Mala seemed plausible.

how did Z25 go all the way to the top of the list aaa

He didn't. I thought it was Rajam/Chaco or Rajam/Mala most likely, and didn't really see a place for z25 to fit well into my pairings, so figured he was probably Town.

weren't you just saying that if rajam was scum then chaco was too??
and weren't you voting rajam, implying you were scumreading both? now chaco's town?

Xivii was asking what I thought of his argument for Town!Chaco. I didn't agree with most of the points that he made, and was explaining what I felt were the strongest points in his favor.

[edit]Fixed quotation

 

[LaserGuy]

Okay, deadline is tomorrow and I probably will not have much time, if any, to post, so I'm going to go ahead and lock in my vote. I will try to peek at the thread at some point if I get the chance just in case my vote is needed elsewhere, but I will be out basically all day so I don't know how likely that will be.

Vote: z25

 

[Xivii]

Okay, deadline is tomorrow and I probably will not have much time, if any, to post, so I'm going to go ahead and lock in my vote. I will try to peek at the thread at some point if I get the chance just in case my vote is needed elsewhere, but I will be out basically all day so I don't know how likely that will be.

Vote: z25

Switch to Mala please.

 

[Xivii]

Alright, I'm pretty much done with the read-through. I'll do the write up in the morning if necessary, but I'm pretty sure Z25 is town. So the potential scum teams are Laser & Mala or Laser & Chaco. I think Chaco is town so we are likely dealing with the former. We execute Mala today. I want to go this direction for three reasons:

One, scum!Mala is deep and so dangerous to keep around. If we yeet Laser, there's a good chance that Mala makes it to endgame and wins over Chaco/Z25, especially considering Ex strongly feel both of them are scum. So if we yeeted Laser today. I'm killed. One of Chaco/Z25 are yeeted tomorrow. DP is killed, leaving the remaining of Chaco/Z25, Ex, and Mala, at which point Ex would be likely to yeet Ch/Z. So we need to yeet Mala today while we have the numbers. Since Laser is basically being universally scum read, I trust he'll be yeeted in the future without me regardless of Mala's flip.

Two, if I am wrong on the solve, I want you guys to have more time to figure the game out. Overall, Mala is a more informative flip than Laser.

Three, we have a misyeet.

So yea Chaco Z25 Darkpit54 with us 4 we should be able to yeet Mala today. ExLight you're welcome to join too.

Vote: Malakandra

 

[Xivii]

This game was incredibly hard. Mala and Laser well done seriously. And if I'm wrong on either or both of Z and Chaco, bravo you guys. Like if those town tells were fake then I just don't know what to say.

 

[Darkpit54]

I won't vote yet unless everyone agrees to ending the Day early, but I'm down to vote Mala as I'm pretty sure he's scum too, and I see your reasoning for saving a Laser yeet for toMorrow

Do we think we can afford a misyeet right now? I don't really think that this is, but obviously I feel more confident about Laser lol. If we're confident this isn't LyLo I have no issue whatsoever with a Mala yeet rn though

 

[Xivii]

I think based on the reasoning Mala provided that we are probably not in the traitor scenario.

 

[ExLight]

Vote: Malakandra

who is their partner in your opinion and why not go after them instead

 

[ExLight]

and if you were panicking about my vote earlier and believe we’re in -Lo who’s the traitor

 

[ExLight]

who is their partner in your opinion and why not go after them instead

lol, you’re scumreading Laser yet picks the one people are most unsure about
of ****ing course

 

[ExLight]

complains about me forcing town’s hand and then does the same, talk abou hypocrisy

 

[ExLight]

I think based on the reasoning Mala provided that we are probably not in the traitor scenario.

oh yea because trusting the person you’re scumreading on whether or not you’re in -Lo is the reasonable play

 

[Chaco]

I’m more sure of Mala than laser. Wym Ex? Xiv has pushed Mala since yesterDay, and frankly I agree with his points.

Vote: Malakandra

I think Lasers vote there is more telling than we think. Very likely Mala and Laser scum team.

 

[Chaco]

Whoever hammers use the Rajam hammer image please. Thanks.

 

[Xivii]

I’m more sure of Mala than laser. Wym Ex? Xiv has pushed Mala since yesterDay, and frankly I agree with his points.

Vote: Malakandra

I think Lasers vote there is more telling than we think. Very likely Mala and Laser scum team.

What? Why? Where did this come from? You said you were most sure of Laser and nothing has changed from then.

 

[Xivii]

That's a reply to this part: I’m more sure of Mala than laser.

 

[ExLight]

That's a reply to this part: I’m more sure of Mala than laser.

you literally did multiple in-depth analysis and concluded Chaco+Laser was more likely than any Mala pairing smh

 

[Chaco]

Mala’s behavior is more telling than cryptic Laser. His lack of emotion in his “frustration” is a huge scumtell, imo, which is more to go off of than Lasers overall lack of effort and contribution. Mala has painted Z and Laser both as town to try and paint confusion.

You’re right though I said I was more sure of Laser earlier, but Mala slot has been nagging me bad since earlier.

I can unvote if you want and readdress tomorrow when sober. But ultimately I’m down for Mala or Laser.

 

[Xivii]

I meant that was a response to Chaco's line. I'm wondering why he is more confident in Mala than Laser when he was the most confident in Laser before.

 

[ExLight]

Malakandra 50%
Laser 65%
Z25 65%

Mr. “I’m going to be drunk and not post but still lurk and vote on my third most viable option as soon as possible” Chaco

Xivii can you please before the scumbuds hammer that

 

[Xivii]

I can unvote if you want and readdress tomorrow when sober. But ultimately I’m down for Mala or Laser.

Eh, it's fine.

 

[Chaco]

I don’t think there’s gonna be a scum rush cause Mala is scum. So don’t worry Ex.

 

[Xivii]

Xivii Xivii can you please before the scumbuds hammer that

Yea since you did me the courtesy earlier. I'll wait til you're ready.

Unvote

 

[ExLight]

Yea since you did me the courtesy earlier. I'll wait til you're ready.

Unvote

thank you

 

[ExLight]

Mala has painted Z and Laser both as town to try and paint confusion.

it’s literally their highest percentages

 

[Chaco]

Mr. “I’m going to be drunk and not post but still lurk and vote on my third most viable option as soon as possible” Chaco

Xivii can you please before the scumbuds hammer that

So then you just concur I’m not scum cause my vote comes second? That was before I reread Mala, so you’re quoting out of order.

 

[Chaco]

it’s literally their highest percentages

Reread the game.

 

[Chaco]

Mala paints both Z and Laser as town prior days, it changes toDay because it has to. If he doesn’t paint them as somewhat scummy he makes it glaringly obvious who his mate is. PoE falls with all scum, so they can’t just scream them as town because it becomes blatant.

 

[Chaco]

Im thinking Mala Laser is scum. Z just creates too much townie feel to me at times. But I could be wrong and he’s scum, but overall I just think that he’s got more natural posting to him. Doesn’t seem safeguarded like Mala and laser. Lasers concision is scary, not helpful. Ya feel me? Mala seems guarded. They feel the least natural to me out of every slot.

ExLight

 

[ExLight]

So then you just concur I’m not scum cause my vote comes second? That was before I reread Mala, so you’re quoting out of order.

go to sleep and we talk in the morning

 

[Malakandra]

Don't think pit is scum. He's been playing very pure town IMO. Only thing is a slight drop in activity later on, but ive had that too, so I can't be one to judge.

 

[Malakandra]

Mala paints both Z and Laser as town prior days, it changes toDay because it has to. If he doesn’t paint them as somewhat scummy he makes it glaringly obvious who his mate is. PoE falls with all scum, so they can’t just scream them as town because it becomes blatant.

Yes, I had them as null or town leans, just like you had me. Things change when you are wong repeatedly and know some options are town.

 

[Chaco]

Yes, I had them as null or town leans, just like you had me. Things change when you are wong repeatedly and know some options are town.

Understandable, but Lasers never really been a slot that has been highly townread. Z was widely considered scummy as well. So I guess it’s more of a paradigm shift due to those slots?

Apologies for freaking you out last night Ex. Inhibition was low, however I am comfortable with the Mala vote. I will switch only for Laser.

I know Xiv is willing to vote Mala, as well as DP. But if we want Laser instead I’m also cool with it.

Xivii Town lead us on in to victory