Metroid Series

[Firus]

Super Metroid was MUCH better than Metroid Fusion. For one thing, Super Metroid was non-linear while in Metroid Fusion has a computer telling you what to do. Another was the music selection. Super Metroid has the most diverse range of music I have ever heard. The music fit appropriately with all areas of the game while Fusion's was just god awful. And firing shots in Fusion made the most annoying sound I have ever heard.

To put it simple...

Super Metroid>Metroid>Metroid Prime>Metroid Prime 2>Metroid: Zero Mission>Metroid Prime 3>Metroid Fusion>Metroid II

Jeez, you're pretty down on Fusion, aren't you?

I really don't think it's that bad; in fact, I'd say it's pretty good. Okay, so the fiftieth time you have to listen to a briefing that you could say yourself verbatim without the option to skip the cutscene altogether is annoying...but I see Fusion's linear-ness as more of a loose guideline than sticking you someplace and saying "Do this." When you look at the way Fusion is linear, yes, it's a little strict, but you're still left to make a lot of decisions yourself. It's more to keep you from running around like a headless chicken than to take you by the hand. Yes, it tells you what to do most of the time, but the later you get into the game, the less you're told. The second time you visit Sector 4, you are told nothing. It throws you a curveball because you're not expecting to do something like unlock a Security Lock without being told to, which makes for a more confusing factor. Pretty much from that point on, in fact, you're left to make the decisions by yourself. Adam tells you to LEAVE Sector 6 immediately after you're done, but the fact that you can't leaves you to find what you must do. You're not told that Ridley is there and needs to be defeated, you're left to do that on your own. The fact that it guides you a little and then sets you loose all of a sudden confuses you a little, but in a good way.
Also, the music wasn't even half as stellar as Super's, but it wasn't that bad. Also, the beam sounds may be classified as annoying when heard repeatedly, but they're really good SFX when you listen to them in moderation.

I would still not even open a debate about Fusion vs. Super, Super wins hands down, but Fusion is a great game, I think.

My order would be this;

1. Super Metroid
2. Metroid Prime
3. Metroid Fusion
4. Metroid Prime 3
5. Metroid Prime 2
6. Metroid
7. Metroid II

Not including spinoffs, nor Zero Mission since I haven't played it and thus can't judge it.

Also, regarding my Metroid Fusion antics, I began another 1% run. I decided that despite the fact that it drove me crazy last time, and that I swore I'd never do it again, it would be good for me. Also, I want to try to improve my time as much as possible.
I am very pleased to say that Giant X, Yakuza, and Nightmare, I've defeated handily (Those are three of four difficult bosses in Fusion on a 1% run, I believe; Ridley being the fourth.). Heck, Nightmare took me one try. I finally got a strategy for him, and it appears it works well. If anyone is having trouble with him and wants an exact explanation of the strategy, I'll be glad to help. Big X and Yakuza took me about 5 tries each; a lot better than last time. At this rate, I may be able to do 1% runs frequently and still have hair left.

 

[Stryks]

Fusion was alrite, but I agree that it had some pretty forgetable music...
I did play super metroid, but its been so long I can barely remember, anyone have a link to the ROM or something? My order is this

Super Metroid (Like I said I can barely remember the game, but I KNOW its that good)
Metroid prime
Metroid prime 3
Prime 2
Fusion

Im gonna ask my cousin if he lends me zero mission and ill give my toughts on it...

 

[Hyper_Ridley]

My ranking:

Metroid Prime 3
Metroid Prime
Super Metroid
Metroid: Zero Mission
Metroid Prime: Hunters
Metroid Prime 2 (Beam ammo + dark world = not my idea of a good time)
Metroid Fusion
Metroid 2
Metroid Prime Pinball
Metroid (I'm sure it was good for its time, but I don't think this game has aged well at all)

Now for some irony; Despite Metroid being my favorite video game franchise, I have yet to do a low percent run or speed run in any of the games. (Please don't hurt me)

 

[SkylerOcon]

Metroid Prime 3
Super Metroid
Metroid Prime: Hunters
Metroid Prime
Metroid
Metroid Fusion
Metroid Prime 2

Yeh. MP2 was a good game, and I did like it, but definitely not my favorite Metroid games. Still loved it though.

 

[Gypsy Lee]

Oooh oooh!

Super Metroid (kind of a given)
Metroid Prime (only Prime to have that Metroid atmosphere: being stranded on an unknown planet)
Metroid / Metroid: Zero Mission (at its time, it was amazing; Zero Mission was a great remake)
Metroid: Fusion (strayed from the formula a bit, still epic)
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption (kind of a sell-out game, but a great game nonetheless)
Metroid Prime: Hunters (single player? eww... multiplayer? the effing a)
Metroid Prime: 2 (different, not in a good way)
Metroid 2 (alright, considering the platform and the time)
Metroid Prime Pinball (good concept, bad game)

 

[The Alpha Gundam]

Super Metroid
Metroid *or Zero mission*
Fusion
Mp3
Mp
Mp2
Metroid 2

On a side note anyone play Super metroid redesign or any other Hacked metroid game?

 

[~Krystal~]

Super Metroid
Metroid Prime
-The Rest-

 

[Serris]

Super Metroid
Metroid *or Zero mission*
Fusion
Mp3
Mp
Mp2
Metroid 2

On a side note anyone play Super metroid redesign or any other Hacked metroid game?

I've been meaning to try Redesign and Golden Dawn, but locating a (JU) [!] ROM is more trouble than it's worth.

As for my favorite Metroid games:

1.) Metroid Prime - Managed to capture Metroid in a more realistic light while still maintaining the series' trademark greatness.
2.) Super Metroid - The most epic, free-form 2-D platformer you'll ever play.
3.) Metroid: Zero Mission - A faithful remake of the original that adds newer elements to make the game seem fresh.
4.) Metroid Prime 3: Corruption - Beautifully-executed controls and incredible environments make Metroid seem new again.
5.) Metroid Prime 2: Echoes - Could have been better, but what it lacks in greatness it more than makes up with some epic boss battles.
6.) Metroid Fusion - Linear, but a thoroughly-entertaining side-scroller that focuses more on plot than on exploration.
7.) Metroid Prime: Hunters - Multiplayer is fantastic, but single player is repetitive.
8.) Metroid II: Return of Samus - The structure of the game just completely abandons traditional Metroid style, but at least you still have the power-ups.
9.) Metroid - It hasn't aged well.
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Added explanations!

 

[Gerbil]

Get me on AIM and I can send you ReDesign as well as Dependance. ReDesign was built perfectly, and along with the new physics, really made the game a whole new one. Whoever did Dependance though, wanted to be mean and make the game uber hard lol.

Super Metroid
Metroid Zero Mission
Metroid Fusion
Metroid Prime 3
Metroid Prime
Metroid Prime 2
Metroid 2
Metroid

I was actually able to beat Metroid 2 with fair ease... Metroid 1 I just.... bleh, I didn't enjoy it lol. Maybe it was because the hallways and crap were massive. Or maybe because I couldn't shoot at an angle (granted you can't in M2, but at least you're tall in that one).

Granted though, M1 had the JUSTIN BAILEY code lol.

 

[Serris]

Added explanations to my list. Thanks for the offer, Gerbil. I might just take you up on that.

 

[Crazy_mofo213]

I'd have to say Fusion is better than Super
Super was alright but i had a blast playing through Fusion

 

[The Alpha Gundam]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z07tybm6FdY
I'm actually looking forward to this one XD *this is a hack game*

 

[Gerbil]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z07tybm6FdY
I'm actually looking forward to this one XD *this is a hack game*

Most unique hack I've ever witnessed for a Metroid game O_O

 

[Mr. Rogu]

i gotta say metroid prime 1 is my favorite. although as a huge metroid fan, i have never played MPH cuz i cant find any copies.

 

[Gerbil]

Hunters was ok. I totally forgot to include it in my list LMAO. I found it to be extremely multiplayer heavy. While the story was "ok", it was just basically *spoilers*

Spoiler

visiting 4 planets in a row, then revisiting them a second time each, while fighting multiplayer bots for boss battles lol. It was far too linear for my liking, and I was very not fond of the save system.

Multiplayer however, blew me away. I put it easily as one of my top favorite DS multiplayers. Multiple unqiue character choices, unique guns, guns that reacted differently depending on if that was the character's choice weapon, morphball mode and the ability to attack in that, FRICKEN CLIMBING UP WALLS AS SPIRE , and tons more. I do grant the fact that it was broken, with the Freeze Glitch and Morph Ball modes being supremely over powered. Still though, everyone was broken in it's own way (Samus Super Missles and Morph Ball, Trace's Invis 1 shot kill, Spire climing to places noone else could reach, etc etc) so it seemed to be balanced out.

Except for that one multiplayer stage... what was it called? It was the last stage you could unlock, and it looked very similar to the last area in the game. Eh, name aside, that broken *** weapon on the top LOL. Wtf was that all about? An instant kill on an entire "floor" (floors like building floors). I'm pretty sure it was in another stage too, but I could never find it.

XD

 

[Firus]

i gotta say metroid prime 1 is my favorite. although as a huge metroid fan, i have never played MPH cuz i cant find any copies.

I wouldn't go searching intensely for it, nor would I buy it unless it's relatively cheap. It's fun for a while, but I found that the replay value was relatively poor. The multiplayer should give it more replay value, but playing against bots gets a little old after a while, and for Wi-Fi, it takes so long to find people to battle (and once you do find people, they'll occasionally just disappear all of a sudden) and a lot of times, people will disconnect for one reason or another. Probably because of the leaderboard; that's why I don't like leaderboards for games.

Hunters was ok. I totally forgot to include it in my list LMAO. I found it to be extremely multiplayer heavy. While the story was "ok", it was just basically *spoilers*

Spoiler

visiting 4 planets in a row, then revisiting them a second time each, while fighting multiplayer bots for boss battles lol. It was far too linear for my liking, and I was very not fond of the save system.

Multiplayer however, blew me away. I put it easily as one of my top favorite DS multiplayers. Multiple unqiue character choices, unique guns, guns that reacted differently depending on if that was the character's choice weapon, morphball mode and the ability to attack in that, FRICKEN CLIMBING UP WALLS AS SPIRE , and tons more. I do grant the fact that it was broken, with the Freeze Glitch and Morph Ball modes being supremely over powered. Still though, everyone was broken in it's own way (Samus Super Missles and Morph Ball, Trace's Invis 1 shot kill, Spire climing to places noone else could reach, etc etc) so it seemed to be balanced out.

Except for that one multiplayer stage... what was it called? It was the last stage you could unlock, and it looked very similar to the last area in the game. Eh, name aside, that broken *** weapon on the top LOL. Wtf was that all about? An instant kill on an entire "floor" (floors like building floors). I'm pretty sure it was in another stage too, but I could never find it.

XD

Yeah, 1P mode was pretty bad and repetitive, in my opinion. It was fun, but the lack of actual item collection was the most disappointing thing in the world. That's a big part of why I like Zelda/Metroid games; the collection of upgrades along the way. All Hunters had was Missile/Energy Tanks and those awful beams. Interesting, yes. Metroid-esque at all; no. The hunters being on a planet randomly was just obnoxious; I bet speed runs on Hunters are the most annoying things ever. At first it was kind of cool, but then it's like "I just want to go to my destination...leave me alone" and luckily, in some places, you can leave without fighting them. Like High Ground, I believe. That place...you enter it and you don't get a Guardian/Hunter fight, the apocalypse is coming. Also, fighting the same two boring bosses over and over was...well, boring. If it were series staples like Ridley or Kraid, I'd be a little more lenient, but c'mon; a floating acorn with an eye and a tower, with many eyes. The "Escape" sequences were also a little anti-climatic. Sometimes you'd run into Hunters on your way out, or you mess up, or something, and the sequence becomes really tough. Then, you climb into your ship, and...you can stay here as long as you want? You fly off, and...you can land straight back there? What is that? They were just overused...we love the classic escape scenes, but at IMPORTANT POINTS. The ending of Metroid, the beginning and end of Super Metroid, the end of Prime 2, the Restricted Lab and end of Fusion...those are good. They worked. They surprised you. By the third planet in Hunters, you saw it coming. Predictability was too present in Hunters.

Multiplayer, I must admit, was fun. Playing with the hunters was fun. Not exactly Metroid-like, but at least there was something to help out the poor single player, and an incentive to play through it. But you're right, it was very broken. Find a good sniping spot with Trace, train up with the Imperialist, and you're good to go. Grab the Imperialist and climb up somewhere with Spire and you're golden as well. On Alinos Gateway, he's really broken, since he's immune to lava and there are some nice spots for him to camp in there. On low gravity levels, Sylux can easily stall. Lay his three bomb-type things rapidly, repeatedly, and you're floating forever. Samus's missiles are uber powerful. Weavel can camp his turret in one strategic place while he nabs health. Kanden's homing tail bomb is really easy to kill with. That's not necessarily a bad piece, since, as I pointed out, everyone's a little broken. Although on some stages, people have serious advantages. I always love playing as Sylux on Head Shot; run to nab Deathball. If you fail, go into space and infi-jump until it's gone. If you succed, stall for time out in space. It's cheap, but it works.

As for the Omega Cannon (the weapon you're referring to), it only appears on the one stage you're referencing; Oubliette. And it is an exact replica of the final stage, I believe. It is pretty broken, but considering how easy it is to Self-Destruct with it, it's not that broken.

Overall, one player is a 1-2 time play through, and multiplayer is fun but can get old eventually. I "lost" the game for about 6 months, and was only upset because it would mean it was a complete waste of money and that I'm missing a game in the Metroid series. (I found it eventually; about a month and a half ago)

...Wow, I just wrote a review of the game and I didn't even mean to.

 

[Gerbil]

I just got done playing a tech demo for a Metroid II remake O_O

Here's the link to the trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wkr8samEBQ

Here's the link to the tech demo if you are interested (just unzip the file, and click on the EXE file)

metroid2remake.blogspot.com

The tech demo is exactly as it says: a demo. item location, in fact that entire demo, may or may not be in the final game. There are 12 items in the demo:

Bombs
Speed Boost
Spider Ball
6 Missle Tanks
1 Super Missle Tank
2 Energy Tanks

Basic Controls:

Z = Shoot
X = Jump
Hold Shift and Angle up or Down
Hold CTRL to switch to Missle Mode

This is a tech demo of course, but the guy says the final product will be GamePad controlable O_o

So now I have Metroid Aegis, Metroid AM2R, and Metroid SR388 to look forward to..... hell yeah. :D

 

[Serris]

Beat Metroid Prime 3 on Hyper Mode in under ten hours. I'm so happy, now. :D

 

[0RLY]

oh mai god! I want these remakes soooo badly!

 

[RedPeppers]

Beat Metroid Prime 3 on Hyper Mode in under ten hours. I'm so happy, now. :D

Congrats, I think I'm gonna be running through the game myself on Hypermode soon.

 

[Serris]

I went through Zero Misssion again and got 1:40. :D

 

[XalchemistX]

I wish they made a remake of super metroid, I never actuly finished that game but I know its a really good game.

 

[Lanowen]

Personally, I am a ultra Metroid fan, and I think Nintendo went in the wrong direction with Metroid going to Retro Studios and making the Prime series.

Given it is still an okay game, but it isn't ****ing the Metroid which made the series. Honestly, if it didn't have the Metroid brand on it, it wouldn't have gotten the ratings it did.

They need to bring back the 2D side-scrolling styles. 3D games are just slow and unchallenging.

Prime should not be confused with Metroid, and anyone who played any Prime first really, doesn't know what they are talking about.

I didn't actually read the thread or anything, but I just had to say it:

Prime≠Metroid​

 

[Firus]

Personally, I am a ultra Metroid fan, and I think Nintendo went in the wrong direction with Metroid going to Retro Studios and making the Prime series.

Given it is still an okay game, but it isn't ****ing the Metroid which made the series. Honestly, if it didn't have the Metroid brand on it, it wouldn't have gotten the ratings it did.

They need to bring back the 2D side-scrolling styles. 3D games are just slow and unchallenging.

Prime should not be confused with Metroid, and anyone who played any Prime first really, doesn't know what they are talking about.

I didn't actually read the thread or anything, but I just had to say it:

Prime≠Metroid​

I think you're being too harsh on Prime. Like, waaay too harsh. I'm an ultra Metroid fan, I did not play Prime first, but...I strongly disagree. I think they need to move away from 3D and do some side-scrollers as well, and I'm inclined to possibly agree on Prime 2 and 3 (Prime 3 did not deserve a 10 from NP, definitely not the first 10 ever, I will definitely give you that. Too much focus on Phazon so we get the lame PED Suit rather than series staples.); they were too distant from Metroid. And Prime 1 didn't even feel as much like Metroid, but I still think it's within range. But yeah, I resent the 3D technology of the handheld systems these days; now everything, in most people's opinions, should be in 3D.

Metroid should not be in 3D alone.
Pokemon during battle should not be in 3D.

Metroid Prime was great, 2 and 3 were okay, Hunters killed the series. Well, it didn't kill it, but it is a blemish on the series. Fun multiplayer, but that's not what Metroid has ever been about. It was a fun addition in Metroid Prime 2; addition is the key word. In Hunters it's the focal point.

In any case, I'm inclined to agree that 2D Metroid will always prevail. To say that Prime is horrible, not Metroid at all, and that people who played Prime first don't know what they're talking about, though...well, that's just a little extreme, in my opinion.

 

[Lanowen]

In any case, I'm inclined to agree that 2D Metroid will always prevail. To say that Prime is horrible, not Metroid at all, and that people who played Prime first don't know what they're talking about, though...well, that's just a little extreme, in my opinion.

IMO, Metroid is Metroid, Super Metroid, Metroid II : Return of Samus, Metroid Fusion, and Metroid Zero Mission.

Metroid Prime 1-3 is not Metroid. It is Prime. It did not build the series, nor did it really feature any of the gameplay that built the series, execpt maybe when you go into those morphball scenes.

Also, I watch TV a lot, does that mean I am build one? People who play Prime first are like posers who get into something so late and try to act cool without actual experience.

It's been 4 years since a real Metroid game. I am still waiting.

 

[Firus]

IMO, Metroid is Metroid, Super Metroid, Metroid II : Return of Samus, Metroid Fusion, and Metroid Zero Mission.

Metroid Prime 1-3 is not Metroid. It is Prime. It did not build the series, nor did it really feature any of the gameplay that built the series, execpt maybe when you go into those morphball scenes.

Also, I watch TV a lot, does that mean I am build one? People who play Prime first are like posers who get into something so late and try to act cool without actual experience.

It's been 4 years since a real Metroid game. I am still waiting.

I don't understand how being 3-D takes away anything that makes it Metroid. I mean, it's obviously different, but so is The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past from Wind Waker, and so is Pokemon Red/Blue/Green/Yellow from Pokemon Diamond/Pearl. If the series can't evolve from anything but what it originally was, I don't think it would be that good of a series, and Metroid is awesome. I just don't understand what you have against Prime other than wanting 2-D Metroid. Again, I agree, but...there's nothing wrong with Prime.

And to say that just because someone gets into something later and as such can only pick up some more recent parts of it means that they are just posers is...well, mean. I didn't play Super Metroid until it got released on VC. I didn't play it on the actual SNES until weeks ago. I started on Fusion (Which I would expect more people to have a problem with Metroid-wise than Prime, with how linear and text-heavy it is; I love the game to death, but I'm surprised you don't have a problem with Fusion if you have a problem with Prime.) I didn't actually get into Nintendo games until the Gameboy/N64. Does that mean that after years of playing Nintendo games, I'm still a poser at that because I just wasn't there at the original? How is that fair? That seems like a very elitist point of view. Unless you're into a game because it's cool at the moment, you're not a poser; you're just someone who didn't discover a game or franchise until later on.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a 2D game in any franchise these days except maybe Kirby. I will always love 2-D Sonic the best, I will always appreciate the old Pokemon games most, and I will always prefer 2-D Metroid to 3-D. But the 3-D era has arrived, and we're just going to have to accept that, unless we start up our own game company.

 

[Lanowen]

I don't understand how being 3-D takes away anything that makes it Metroid. I mean, it's obviously different, but so is The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past from Wind Waker, and so is Pokemon Red/Blue/Green/Yellow from Pokemon Diamond/Pearl. If the series can't evolve from anything but what it originally was, I don't think it would be that good of a series, and Metroid is awesome. I just don't understand what you have against Prime other than wanting 2-D Metroid. Again, I agree, but...there's nothing wrong with Prime.

Pearl/Diamond are still 2D with 3D modeling, it really isn't classified as 3D game play. Prime is slow and unskillful. You can scan whatever you want and find crap out. It takes away from the secretiveness of things. I would see it as more of a devolution to simpler game play, albeit, Prime 3 is much more of an improvement on 1 and 2 in terms of game play.
For Zelda, all the basic element carried over. The 3/4-ish bird's eye view is pretty much the same style as the 3rd person view in the 3D aspect. Side-scrolling doesn't translate carry over into 1st person shooter while conserving the elements of game play. Prime is a totally different series compared to Metroid.

And to say that just because someone gets into something later and as such can only pick up some more recent parts of it means that they are just posers is...well, mean. I didn't play Super Metroid until it got released on VC. I didn't play it on the actual SNES until weeks ago. I started on Fusion (Which I would expect more people to have a problem with Metroid-wise than Prime, with how linear and text-heavy it is; I love the game to death, but I'm surprised you don't have a problem with Fusion if you have a problem with Prime.) I didn't actually get into Nintendo games until the Gameboy/N64. Does that mean that after years of playing Nintendo games, I'm still a poser at that because I just wasn't there at the original? How is that fair? That seems like a very elitist point of view. Unless you're into a game because it's cool at the moment, you're not a poser; you're just someone who didn't discover a game or franchise until later on.

Fusion was okay, it still featured the basic game play values, be it linear or whatever, compared to Prime it is god. And yes. it means after years of 'playing' Nintendo games that you are playing a poser because you weren't there for the original, it has been 14 years since the Metroid series really took off. Maybe in 14 years you can be a vet compared to someone who just started. Life isn't fair, remember that. Life is not fair. You are being rather elitist right now also, trying to compare yourself to someone like I whom have multiple times the experience you do. I am not trying to belittle you, however there is some hierarchy involved.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a 2D game in any franchise these days except maybe Kirby. I will always love 2-D Sonic the best, I will always appreciate the old Pokemon games most, and I will always prefer 2-D Metroid to 3-D. But the 3-D era has arrived, and we're just going to have to accept that, unless we start up our own game company.

It is sad the people think that just because there is something new, doesn't mean you have to use it in that sense. The best thing for the Metroid series right now would probably be a 3D modeled game with a 2D side-scroller aspect would present many new opportunities with the integration of technology, but still be able to incorporate good original skill-based game play.

It takes a true fan to actually make a good game these days I guess. Metroid: SR388

 

[Yuna-Maria]

Metroid Prime, the first of the three, is a Metroid game. It places heavy emphasis on exploration and collection of items before Samus can progress, and boss fights and enemies along the way want her dead.
Sounds like Metroid to me....

 

[Firus]

Pearl/Diamond are still 2D with 3D modeling, it really isn't classified as 3D game play. Prime is slow and unskillful. You can scan whatever you want and find crap out. It takes away from the secretiveness of things. I would see it as more of a devolution to simpler game play, albeit, Prime 3 is much more of an improvement on 1 and 2 in terms of game play.
For Zelda, all the basic element carried over. The 3/4-ish bird's eye view is pretty much the same style as the 3rd person view in the 3D aspect. Side-scrolling doesn't translate carry over into 1st person shooter while conserving the elements of game play. Prime is a totally different series compared to Metroid.

I was talking about other evolutions in the series, not just 3-D. Since R/B/G/Y, two types were added, some moves changed types, Shiny Pokemon were added, Natures and Abilities were added, a clock was added, a way to replay trainers was added, 300 Pokemon were added...I could go on, but you get my point. It's evolved a lot and while they need to stop adding so many Pokemon (especially "Legendaries", which aren't legendary anymore), it's still going strong.
Also, I wouldn't say scanning removes the mystery. While I like less information to some extent, it's not mystery so much as "What is this called?" and some really interesting things were added in via that like being able to tell you how something died so you can say "Jeez, what could've done that?!" Sort of like the dead bounty hunter by Kraid's room in Super Metroid, only giving you more detail. I agree that scanning rocks and stuff to be able to see what can be destroyed by what is stupid, as well as scanning things to activate them (that gets obnoxious). Whatever happened to bombing the entire room to see what you can dig up?
As for Prime 3 vs. 1 and 2, I really disagree. Prime 3 stripped Metroid of some key features like the Gravity Suit and Power Bombs so they could add in Phazon weapons, the PED Suit and the boring Hazard Shield. How is that Metroid? I say it's not.

Fusion was okay, it still featured the basic game play values, be it linear or whatever, compared to Prime it is god. And yes. it means after years of 'playing' Nintendo games that you are playing a poser because you weren't there for the original, it has been 14 years since the Metroid series really took off. Maybe in 14 years you can be a vet compared to someone who just started. Life isn't fair, remember that. Life is not fair. You are being rather elitist right now also, trying to compare yourself to someone like I whom have multiple times the experience you do. I am not trying to belittle you, however there is some hierarchy involved.

I really resent that word poser. Inexprienced would be more appropriate, but still doesn't fit at least me. "Poser" implies that I'm only pretending to be a gamer. That's what a poser is, someone posing as something they're not. (Also, why is playing in apostrophes?) And let me tell you something; I play video games night and day. They're basically my one and only hobby (Yes, I have no life, but moving on...) so to say that just because I started out later means that you have so much more experience than I do is probably an exaggeration. Seriously, I play a lot of video games. Just take one example, I've played through Fusion at least 30 times, if not more, and I have to have at least 50 video games. Not to say that I have equal experience, as I'm sure I don't, but it's not as if I have zero experience; I am a very avid gamer.
And I've been playing video games for longer, I didn't start on Nintendo games until Gameboy/N64. I had a Sega Genesis before that. That's how I started. In retrospect, I definitely should've gotten a SNES; I missed out. Super Metroid alone makes the console worth it. But to tell me I can't be a gamer or a Metroid fan because I didn't play it since the original is elitist. By the way, I'm not sure what your definition of elitist is, because comparing myself to you, even assuming that I am a noob at gaming like you seem to think I am, does not make me an elitist. Being an elitist, extremist, etc. is looking down on something else because they think that someone can only be experienced, skilled, etc. if they are similar to that person. You are claiming that anyone who did not start from the beginning is not a true Metroid fan. I'd call that being elitist. I'm not trying to put you down for starting out earlier or for disliking Metroid Prime, I'm just offering my opinion. To say that I would be putting you down by comparing myself to you (which is the only way I could be elitist in comparing myself to you) is beyond elitist. That's just unnecessary.

And while you claim you are not trying to belittle me, it sure as heck sounds like it. Even to say some hierarchy is involved is nonsense. We're all gamers here. Don't resort to primitive noob-calling because you've played video games longer. If you want to debate over Prime, that's fine; I'm glad to do so. But don't personally attack me because I haven't been playing as long as you when I've been playing for quite a while.

It is sad the people think that just because there is something new, doesn't mean you have to use it in that sense. The best thing for the Metroid series right now would probably be a 3D modeled game with a 2D side-scroller aspect would present many new opportunities with the integration of technology, but still be able to incorporate good original skill-based game play.

It takes a true fan to actually make a good game these days I guess. Metroid: SR388

I agree. I don't think we should accept 3-D as the only thing, I'm just saying that's what's going to happen, whether we like it or not.

As for Metroid: SR388, I really look forward to it. It looks awesome. Plus, it's a 2-D sidescroller with Super Metroid sprites...enough said.

 

[Stryks]

The 1st prime stayed true to the series, u felt alone in that planet, and everything was spot on, the space pirates, chozo, ridley, and of course, metroids....

the other 2 were ok, I didnt like the two worlds thing of MP2, but MP3 was too great, it too away the isolation feel, but it was still very good...

 

[Yuna-Maria]

Does anyone in this thread play Hunters?
I want to get in on some action with someone besides my girlfriend. It's getting old fighting Spire over and over.
Anyone? Anyone at all?

 

[Crystallion]

I've only recently got into Metroid. The first one I played was the original Metroid and it was great. Then I moved to looking things up and watched Metroid Prime 3 gameplay. I was so fascinated that I bought the first MP. Pretty hard game, considering that I'm NOT an FPS pro, never was and never will be (well, maybe).

 

[Johnthegalactic]

I got into Metroid several years back, first metroid game was MP2, gosh, the title screen theme gives me chills.
I need to get more metroid of the games.

IMO, Metroid is Metroid, Super Metroid, Metroid II : Return of Samus, Metroid Fusion, and Metroid Zero Mission.

Metroid Prime 1-3 is not Metroid. It is Prime. It did not build the series, nor did it really feature any of the gameplay that built the series, execpt maybe when you go into those morphball scenes.

Also, I watch TV a lot, does that mean I am build one? People who play Prime first are like posers who get into something so late and try to act cool without actual experience.

It's been 4 years since a real Metroid game. I am still waiting.

Sorry pal, I wasn't born when metroid came out, and was only 2 when Super metroid was released.
I apologize for playing Prime before I played Super Metroid, but please, Metroid is not a religion, it is a game.

 

[Yuna-Maria]

Metroid is not a religion, it is a game.

Speak for yourself.....

 

[Crystallion]

Metroid is not a religion, it is a game.

Even though I know this will be flamebait, but you're right. Seriously, who wants to associate Metroid with something negative? If anything, it's a way of life xD

Btw, Lanowen, how can anyone be such a moron?

 

[Firus]

Metroid is not a religion, it is a game.

I agree that Lanowen is being insane, but this is blasphemy. Metroid is a religion.

Even though I know this will be flamebait, but you're right. Seriously, who wants to associate Metroid with something negative? If anything, it's a way of life xD

Btw, Lanowen, how can anyone be such a moron?

...Okay, yeah, way of life would be better. Religion is pretty negative. Religion and politics start some of the nastiest debates and arguments ever. Heck, religion even starts wars.

And yeah, I usually don't like calling people morons, but jeez...Lanowen, your extremist positions and the way you're approaching the whole discussion is really kind of cold. You say that Prime is not Metroid, and because you've been playing it for a while you can put everyone who hasn't been playing as long down and tell them they're wrong. Everyone's new at one point, and I'm sure there's SOMEONE out there who played the game before you did.

 

[Lanowen]

God. I am just saying Metroid Prime is a totally different series compared to Metroid 1, 2, 3, Fusion, and Zero Mission.

If you take anything away from this discussion, take that both series' cannot be compared to each other.

People shouldn't be commenting on **** they haven't ****ing played. That is just common sense. You are saying I am being extremist? I say I am being practical.

If you are an avid gamer, you would have found this game at the beginning of your career, saying you are a gamer and you haven't ****ing played Super Metroid 'til now, there just is no excuse.

I don't ****ing go to soccer game to play hockey, you shouldn't be mixing up your opinions on the Metroid series with your opinions of the Metroid Prime series. It is so stupid to compare them like they are the same. If you don't want to argue something, at least have the decency to know where I am coming from before talking ****. I know pretty well that half of you people are saying I am insane even though you have never even bothered to play the other Metroid games, so automatically you think you know what I am talking about? That's called spam people.

@ Name calling: Yeah, real mature there. Me thinking I was extreme? I was totally wrong. </sarcasm>

Metroid Classic and Metroid Prime are separate categories. Don't forget it.

 

[Yuna-Maria]

Clearly the internet is serious freakin' business to this guy.

 

[Firus]

God. I am just saying Metroid Prime is a totally different series compared to Metroid 1, 2, 3, Fusion, and Zero Mission.

If you take anything away from this discussion, take that both series' cannot be compared to each other.

People shouldn't be commenting on **** they haven't ****ing played. That is just common sense. You are saying I am being extremist? I say I am being practical.

If you are an avid gamer, you would have found this game at the beginning of your career, saying you are a gamer and you haven't ****ing played Super Metroid 'til now, there just is no excuse.

I don't ****ing go to soccer game to play hockey, you shouldn't be mixing up your opinions on the Metroid series with your opinions of the Metroid Prime series. It is so stupid to compare them like they are the same. If you don't want to argue something, at least have the decency to know where I am coming from before talking ****. I know pretty well that half of you people are saying I am insane even though you have never even bothered to play the other Metroid games, so automatically you think you know what I am talking about? That's called spam people.

@ Name calling: Yeah, real mature there. Me thinking I was extreme? I was totally wrong. </sarcasm>

Metroid Classic and Metroid Prime are separate categories. Don't forget it.

As I said with name-calling, I only resort to it when people are being completely irrational. Case in point; you. Because clearly being polite just doesn't get through to you, you're just going to be nuts about it anyways. I enjoy debates, but when you start attacking my video game career, you've crossed a line. Because, as I may or may not have said here, video games are my life.
Oh, and completely off-topic, nice explosion of swearing in your post.

On to the topic...

You're saying that anyone who has not been playing since the original doesn't know what they're talking about. That's different from people who haven't played it at all. I've played retro Metroid for a while. I got my hands on Super Metroid as soon as it came out on VC (which, by the way, is why I didn't play it until now; by the time I got into Metroid, the SNES was kind of...you know, dead?), but I've had Metroid 2 for years, as well as the original Metroid. Heck, I own every game except for freakin' Prime Pinball and Zero Mission, so how can you tell me I haven't played it? Probably because you get a power trip out of putting down people who you believe are inferior to you because they haven't been into Metroid as long as you. That's just as mature as saying that someone is inferior because they haven't been on a forum for as long. Ever notice how respected noob-callers are?

Also, you're not just saying that Prime is different from Metroid. You're saying that Prime is different from Metroid, and you are also saying it's a really bad game and requires no skill, yet at least the first retains a lot of the Metroid series. Other than the fact that it's 3D, you can scan, and you occasionally get hints I don't see it as being much different from Super Metroid. It feels pretty much the same to me, now that I think about it. Prime still pales in comparison to Super Metroid, but the atmosphere and everything remains similar. My guess is you just have some problem with 3D games in general, you cannot and will not accept change, so you are taking it out on Prime for changing the series and being 3D. At least, that's what it sounds like to me. While 2D will always beat 3D in every way, you can't come in judging Prime with the attitude that it's 3D so it can't be any good.

Attacking my career as a gamer is great. Your assumption doesn't fit. I was an avid gamer (by the way, avid means someone has a passion for it, loves doing it, etc.) at the beginning of my career, yes; but A)My first system was a Sega Genesis. Should've gotten Super Metroid for it, ye--oh wait, Super Metroid is for SNES. B)Playing and loving games doesn't mean I was completely involved in every aspect of them as I am now, anticipating releases, reserving games, going on forums to discuss games, etc. It just means I played them and loved it. C) As I mentioned before, I didn't get into Metroid until Metroid Fusion (a while after it came out, too), at which time, SNES was kind of dead. Makes it sort of hard to play it, doesn't it? Until I got really involved in the series, doing speed runs etc. I didn't even think of spending an arm and a leg on a SNES just to play Super Metroid on the original console. As it is, buying a game I already had was a little foolish. But the fact that I bought it twice should clue you in to the fact that I love Metroid just as much as you do.
Just because I'm not like you doesn't mean that I'm a horrible failure. Believe it or not, you are not the Metroid King. I'm (seriously) very sorry I didn't pick up a SNES years ago, but it's too late to change that now, isn't it?

The Metroid Prime series is part of the Metroid series. At WORST it's a spinoff of the series, if that. And I'm still inclined to say that the few additions to the Metroid series from Prime do not constitute a spinoff. I mean, by that logic, Brawl is a spinoff of Melee, because there are a TON of things changed from Melee to Brawl.
Again, I've played every game except for Pinball (played a demo of Zero Mission) so I do know where you're coming from.
Also, in regards to what you call spam, you're wrong. Even if they're completely misinformed, spam is defined as a Stupid, Pointless, Annoying Message. Like an ad or something off-topic. They're not off-topic, just misinformed. Even so, I'd bet money that there are very few people who are posting in the Metroid Thread that haven't played anything more than the Prime series. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that there are none who haven't played anything but Prime here.

 

[Yuna-Maria]

^^^ tr00f
My first Metroid game was Metroid, which I played for the first time at the tender age of five. When I was eight, I'd play it again, and eventually have a completion time of fifty-two minutes.