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Mega Man is not in Brawl!

Tom-Sawyer

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He may be in.He wouldn't exactly be screaming it to the world if he was. The creator would keep it a surprise.
Sonic's creator denied this to, so maybe...just maybe we'll still see Megaman.
 

Ruggeth

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Sora isn't being in brawl. Go on, yell at me for saying something about a game that isn't out yet.

He's not. Period. Niether is Mickey or any other cartoon ****tards.
 

CyberBenX4

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I still think this is just a ruse of some sort. Even if Inafune says something like this, who knows how much weight it actually has?

For instance, did Shinji Mikami, the head of the former Capcom Studio 4 (and one of the top dawgs in the company until it a few years back), have ANY say in what happened to RE4, as it got ported over to the PS2 (ESPECIALLY after Mikami explicitly said it wouldn't)? No, because, in the end, people like Kenzo Tsujimoto (the CEO of Capcom) hold the final say to what goes on for the company, and Tsujimoto's more interested in the wants and desires of the stock holders, first and foremost.

You can be the head of development in any respect, but the overall business model is still decided by the people who actually run the company. That's the bottomline for any business.

Frankly, all things considered, I would have been more concerned if Takeshi Horinouchi said that Rockman wasn't in Brawl. People often associate Inafune with Rockman, but ever since Rockman EXE 4, it's Horinouchi who's actually involved with Rockman on a day-to-day basis as the series producer. Don't believe me? Go check out this month's (January 2008) Nintendo Power. It's highly probable that they may have just went and contacted him instead, and Inafune would be let in on the loop some time later. Again, things like that happen.

And on that note...there was interesting quote from that same article, in that very magazine, that I thought was also worthy of interest.

Question 16: What are some ideas you had for Mega Man, but ended up totally rejecting?

Horinouchi: In honor of Mega Man's 20th anniversary, I had planned to do a game where all of the iterations of Mega Man could battle each other, but then I gave up on it. There just wasn't enough manpower on the Capcom development team to bring the game to fruition. At some point in the future, I'd still like to give it a shot.
- Nintendo Power, January 2008, pg. 62

Gee...that sounds an AWFUL lot like what would have been yet another type of Smash Bros. type game. Horinouchi's PR statement aside, I can only think of a few reasons why Capcom would shut down an idea such as that; at least two of them having to do with Brawl, whether Rockman would actually get in or not.
 

Kittah4

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aah.... the memories... that was what i used to say about sonic... good times
Being quite familiar with Disney and their workings, I can say that Disney has little idea about what makes a good video game, and the KH series is pretty much an accident in popularity because of no small pushing by Square. Heck, Capcom made some good Disney games, but BVI pretty much sucks.

I'm assuming they have no freakin' idea how huge Brawl would be; they probably figure they already have something big enough in Kingdom Hearts.
 

Cless

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Yeah, people already pointed out that Inafune doesn't have a say in what Mega Man gets used in, but I guess people blissfully ignore said posts.

Also, I don't see how people can say Sonic ruined the game when Snake didn't. Sonic not fitting in a fighting game though? I you would have thought that Peach, Zelda, Ice Climbers, Game & Watch, etc. would have fit perfectly in a fighting game before Smash came along. Oh, there's also the fact that Sonic already had his own fighting game.
 

Naoshi

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Yay megaman isn't in brawl! Sonic is enough, seriously. Geno FTW.
Sonic is enough? So you're saying 2 3rd parties is enough? Well that's fair enough...but oh wait. Now you are rooting for Geno in which would make you want THREE 3rd party characters.

Make up your mind. D:
 

SmashChu

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I still think this is just a ruse of some sort. Even if Inafune says something like this, who knows how much weight it actually has?

For instance, did Shinji Mikami, the head of the former Capcom Studio 4 (and one of the top dawgs in the company until it a few years back), have ANY say in what happened to RE4, as it got ported over to the PS2 (ESPECIALLY after Mikami explicitly said it wouldn't)? No, because, in the end, people like Kenzo Tsujimoto (the CEO of Capcom) hold the final say to what goes on for the company, and Tsujimoto's more interested in the wants and desires of the stock holders, first and foremost.

You can be the head of development in any respect, but the overall business model is still decided by the people who actually run the company. That's the bottomline for any business.

Frankly, all things considered, I would have been more concerned if Takeshi Horinouchi said that Rockman wasn't in Brawl. People often associate Inafune with Rockman, but ever since Rockman EXE 4, it's Horinouchi who's actually involved with Rockman on a day-to-day basis as the series producer. Don't believe me? Go check out this month's (January 2008) Nintendo Power. It's highly probable that they may have just went and contacted him instead, and Inafune would be let in on the loop some time later. Again, things like that happen.
But if Megaman was truely in Brawl, wouldn't he actually know about it.

I think too many people are taking the "Ohhh, Megaman could still be in Brawl" path. Face it, Megaman chances are very very slim at this point. And this is nothing new. They had plenty of opportunities to show him off, and now the game is about a month away from it's Japanese launch.

Sakurai can't add a whole bunch of third party characters. He gives them the up most representation in Brawl, so it would be hard work to add Megaman in the ranks too.

But I'll tell you what. Monday might show off a new characters. If Megaman isn't there, the I think it's safe to say he is not in Brawl.
 

Cless

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Not necessarily. A whole Mega Man game was made without Inafune's knowledge. If Capcom wants to use Mega Man, they do so.
 

sfox8

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not to be evil or anything... im glad megaman isn't in! 0.0
And yet you state no reason. Yeah that makes a lot of sense.

To be honest, I'm not a Megaman fan and I'm pretty sure that even if he does get in, I won't play as him very much but you can't deny that he has not been confirmed OR deconfirmed yet. I wish people would just stop over-analyzing the man's statement. In the end, analyzing his statement and changing the meaning of his words will not solve anything because the statement will ALWAYS be the same no matter how you TRY to interpret it. The ONLY way we'll ever know for sure is if it's posted on the Dojo or on January 24th.
 

Kittah4

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But if Megaman was truely in Brawl, wouldn't he actually know about it.

I think too many people are taking the "Ohhh, Megaman could still be in Brawl" path. Face it, Megaman chances are very very slim at this point. And this is nothing new. They had plenty of opportunities to show him off, and now the game is about a month away from it's Japanese launch.

Sakurai can't add a whole bunch of third party characters. He gives them the up most representation in Brawl, so it would be hard work to add Megaman in the ranks too.

But I'll tell you what. Monday might show off a new characters. If Megaman isn't there, the I think it's safe to say he is not in Brawl.
You're giving Mega Man an ultimatum for Christmas Eve? Whats with that? If Mega Man deserved a day in the sun, it was his birthday. However the chances are still there; it's not over til the game is in the hands of eager Japanese gamers from which the full roster will quickly flow forth.

I agree that Mega Man's chances seem sketchy at the moment, but commenting that you know anything about Sakurai's workload and how it relates to 3rd party characters is foolish.

And yes, in agreement with sfox8, to Mega Man haters: Why do you hate him? Do you have a reason? "Thank my favorite deity Mega Man isn't in" isn't a reason, it's flame bait.
 

SmashChu

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You're giving Mega Man an ultimatum for Christmas Eve? Whats with that? If Mega Man deserved a day in the sun, it was his birthday. However the chances are still there; it's not over til the game is in the hands of eager Japanese gamers from which the full roster will quickly flow forth.

I agree that Mega Man's chances seem sketchy at the moment, but commenting that you know anything about Sakurai's workload and how it relates to 3rd party characters.
I felkt Megaman wasn't going to be in Brawl after he wasn't shown on his birthday. There were plenty of opportunities to show him off and they never did. Kojima showed off Sanke (and this is how he got on the site) so the fact that Inafune doesn't do the same is a bit odd.

It brings me tio the conclusion that Megaman might not be in Brawl. It wouldn't be too much of a surprise. He only managed a 2 and he might have only believed to be likely as he was due to his status and the fact he's third party.
 

Cless

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Snake was showed years ago to increase hype and Sonic was shown to soften the delay. I don't see a reason to show Mega Man on any particular Capcom day when it really has nothing to do with Brawl. Showing him won't increase hype any more than it has, and if it did end up increasing hype, wouldn't it be better to do so closer to release to ensure the hype is still there when the game comes out? Besides, I think anyone who cared about Mega Man enough to attend the birthday countdown would buy the game if Mega Man was revealed regardless of the day that he would be revealed.
 

Xerroo

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I can't help but think that if Mega Man is in we'll all look back on this and laugh.

And even if he isn't we all still will laugh.

If anything good came out of this it was the laughs.
 

RedKnight

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I would like to see Megaman get in. but he may not have the movesets or whatever to do so. he needs to be unique. However Mario, Sonic, and Megaman are the mascots that have burned in my memory since I played the NES when I was like 6, and the Genesis as well. the only other character that I could see filling in the 4th position for a full match would be...Rayman, I dont know why, but he has also stuck in my mind ESPECIALLY after Rayman 2
 

verditude

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The way I see it, there are a few possibilities.

1. Mega Man is not in and is not going to be, and Capcom has not been/will not be consulted. Self-explanatory.

2. Capcom/Inafune have not been approached yet, but Sakurai and co. have already made a character model for Mega Man, with moves and all that shebang, and they will ask Capcom/Inafune for permission later. If they don't get it, they scrap Mega & everything related to him.

3. Inafune is lying, or he approached Sakurai instead of the other way around. Also self-explanatory.

4. Inafune has been bypassed and higher-ups at Capcom have approved/disapproved Mega for Brawl, with or without Inafune's knowledge. Most likely without, since he probably would have to sign a NDA if he knew, and he would have violated it with his statements.

5. Like #2, but no work on Mega has been done yet, and if Capcom says yes, we get another delay for Sakurai and co. to add Mega. I feel this is unikely, as he would have to be integrated into SE, events, have a stage, etc.

Any more possile scenarios? As of now, I think 1 and 2 are most likely.
 

Cless

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I think 2 is the least likely. That would be a huge amount of time wasted. I also don't see why 3 and 4 can't be likely.
 

Ianthraxx

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Megaman 4 Brawl? Like this guys says in his own article, he's leaked information that turned out to be true before.


http://www.thenproject.com/?p=290


Could this be the reason for the delay...?
The article was written very closely to the delay announcement. (Oct 17th)

In the Inafune interview, he says "I’m still waiting…we have a little bit of time left, it’s not coming out for another few months." So the interview was obviously taken a few months ago.

If Brawl was delayed for Megaman to get in, I wouldn't mind at all. I think him and Geno can co-exist peacefully. :D

(I do realize this is a bit of a stretch. I don't care. I want Megaman in Brawl. XD)
 

XDead Sexy

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Inafune says theres still a few months to put him even though it comes out in almost less than a month in Japan i think this is an older interview I still think Mega has a very good chane of getting in.
 

Cless

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Inafune says theres still a few months to put him even though it comes out in almost less than a month in Japan i think this is an older interview I still think Mega has a very good chane of getting in.
We've confirmed that the podcast was made during Mega Man's birthday party.
 

TrueBlue23

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Kraken, wow you don't have to be a jerk to people who like a character. And us Sonic fans got this same crap before he was confirmed. Why do people hate 3rd parties so much.
 

Bane84

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This sort of brings up an interesting point. Remember back when the producer for Sonic and the Secret Rings was being interviewed about Sonic in Brawl?

“In my personal opinion, it would be great to have Sonic in it. But that would really involve Sonic and Nintendo’s management, it’s nothing to do with me!”

Do you think that this is a similar case between Capcom and Nintendo's management (basically, only the higher-ups are involved in the final decision?)
 
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