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Mega Man is not in Brawl!

shadenexus18

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At the OFFICIAL CAPCOM WEB SITE.

http://blog.capcom.com/archives/730

"Fun fact: This Podcast was actually recorded on the day of Mega Man 20th anniversary, which makes having Inafune-san, the father of Mega Man, on the Podcast all the more cool!"
Thanks for the research bro.

Man this is depressing. It's not everyday that an icon such as Megaman is completely and utterly overlooked by Nintendo who I thought for sure they'd jump at the chance to use him.
 

Zoo-bellocks

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You know, I can understand the Mega Man's fan's pain. I never wanted or expected him, but I know a lot of people want him in for reasons I can relate to. But there comes a point when enough is enough and it gets to be embarrassing.

Yes, it's possible Inafune lied. Likely? No. He probably would have been prepared for a question like that and answered with something much more non-committal and vague. How about something like "Well, that would be quite a nice surprise, wouldn't it? But there isn't much I can comment on". That's just one example I made up. The man makes it very clear that Nintendo has not contacted him and he has not contacted them.

"Well, I really do love Super Smash Brothers. It’s a great series…but, Nintendo hasn’t asked me yet if they can use Mega Man in their game. I’m still waiting…we have a little bit of time left, it’s not coming out for another few months. They might get around to asking us if we’d like to put Mega Man in Super Smash Brothers. Maybe if somebody from Nintendo is listening to this podcast, they’ll give me a call."

There really isn't any loopholes that you can reasonably expect people to buy. It's unbelievable how people are saying things like "Maybe he meant that HE contacted THEM". I mean, give me a break. There's little chance that he would lie this elaborately.

Is it possible that Inafune wasn't told about Mega Man being put into a huge game like Brawl? Yes. Again, is it likely? Certainly not. Just because something similar happened with another game (X6?) does not mean it happened this time. I'll give Capcom enough credit to assume they would respect their head of R&D as well as Mega Man's original designer enough to tell him about something this huge.

The Sonic comparison isn't valid at all. Some guy who was not very high up in Sega (and was certainly not Yuji Naka) saying something as vague as "That's not on the cards right now" in an interview that had nothing to do with SSBB that was made months before Sonic's announcement is obviously not comparable to Mega Man's creator stating clear as crystal that Mega Man is not planned to be in Brawl.

And don't even think for a second there might be enough time to add Mega Man in before release. As was proved, this interview happened on the 19th. That leaves about 2 weeks for Mega Man to be entirely implemented into Brawl, considering production will likely wrap up before the end of December to allow time for mass production and packaging. It just isn't plausible.

Look, there's nothing wrong with supporting Mega Man. But how long are we going to dance around the 800 pound gorilla in the room? This was a HUGE blow to his chances, yet people are trying to delude themselves that it means absolutely nothing, or in some cases makes him more likely. Just do yourselves a favour and stop expecting him. If by some miracle, Mega Man gets in, it'll be all the more sweet. However, if as expected he doesn't, a lot of you are going to be even more disappointed and look pretty foolish.

Reality is cruel sometimes, but we all have to come to terms with it sooner or later. I find that sooner is the best path. That's all I have to say.
 

Black/Light

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Thanks for the research bro.

Man this is depressing. It's not everyday that an icon such as Megaman is completely and utterly overlooked by Nintendo who I thought for sure they'd jump at the chance to use him.
Your well come.

Im really shocked at how many MM fans HERE don't actually go to the official capcom web site. . . it's on the first page.

And Zoo-bellocks, thats exactly how I feel but in a larger and more graceful post. I never was too geeked for MM but Im not a hater of any kind. People think they are doing "damage control" when in actuality they are giving themselves false hope.
 

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This sort of brings up an interesting point. Remember back when the producer for Sonic and the Secret Rings was being interviewed about Sonic in Brawl?

“In my personal opinion, it would be great to have Sonic in it. But that would really involve Sonic and Nintendo’s management, it’s nothing to do with me!”

Do you think that this is a similar case between Capcom and Nintendo's management (basically, only the higher-ups are involved in the final decision?)
Thank you! It is still entirely possible that Megaman is in. It is foolish to think that this man, though the creator, has sole power over the franchise.

I still fully expect Megaman. Am I in denile? Possibly. But I would rather hope and be yelled at by peers then give up hope and be a quitter. Rehab is for quitters, and I ain't in rehab.
 

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IF Megaman doesn't get in, NO CAPCOM character is getting in
 

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Thank you! It is still entirely possible that Megaman is in. It is foolish to think that this man, though the creator, has sole power over the franchise.

I still fully expect Megaman. Am I in denile? Possibly. But I would rather hope and be yelled at by peers then give up hope and be a quitter. Rehab is for quitters, and I ain't in rehab.
The creator of Mega Man isn't high up at all?
 

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You know, I can understand the Mega Man's fan's pain. I never wanted or expected him, but I know a lot of people want him in for reasons I can relate to. But there comes a point when enough is enough and it gets to be embarrassing.

Yes, it's possible Inafune lied. Likely? No. He probably would have been prepared for a question like that and answered with something much more non-committal and vague. How about something like "Well, that would be quite a nice surprise, wouldn't it? But there isn't much I can comment on". That's just one example I made up. The man makes it very clear that Nintendo has not contacted him and he has not contacted them.

"Well, I really do love Super Smash Brothers. It’s a great series…but, Nintendo hasn’t asked me yet if they can use Mega Man in their game. I’m still waiting…we have a little bit of time left, it’s not coming out for another few months. They might get around to asking us if we’d like to put Mega Man in Super Smash Brothers. Maybe if somebody from Nintendo is listening to this podcast, they’ll give me a call."

There really isn't any loopholes that you can reasonably expect people to buy. It's unbelievable how people are saying things like "Maybe he meant that HE contacted THEM". I mean, give me a break. There's little chance that he would lie this elaborately.

Is it possible that Inafune wasn't told about Mega Man being put into a huge game like Brawl? Yes. Again, is it likely? Certainly not. Just because something similar happened with another game (X6?) does not mean it happened this time. I'll give Capcom enough credit to assume they would respect their head of R&D as well as Mega Man's original designer enough to tell him about something this huge.

The Sonic comparison isn't valid at all. Some guy who was not very high up in Sega (and was certainly not Yuji Naka) saying something as vague as "That's not on the cards right now" in an interview that had nothing to do with SSBB that was made months before Sonic's announcement is obviously not comparable to Mega Man's creator stating clear as crystal that Mega Man is not planned to be in Brawl.

And don't even think for a second there might be enough time to add Mega Man in before release. As was proved, this interview happened on the 19th. That leaves about 2 weeks for Mega Man to be entirely implemented into Brawl, considering production will likely wrap up before the end of December to allow time for mass production and packaging. It just isn't plausible.

Look, there's nothing wrong with supporting Mega Man. But how long are we going to dance around the 800 pound gorilla in the room? This was a HUGE blow to his chances, yet people are trying to delude themselves that it means absolutely nothing, or in some cases makes him more likely. Just do yourselves a favour and stop expecting him. If by some miracle, Mega Man gets in, it'll be all the more sweet. However, if as expected he doesn't, a lot of you are going to be even more disappointed and look pretty foolish.

Reality is cruel sometimes, but we all have to come to terms with it sooner or later. I find that sooner is the best path. That's all I have to say.
Because it happened with X6 means it can happen again, not that it did. It also gives Inafune an out. We all also know that Yuji Naka has nothing to do with Sonic Team anymore right?
 

Black/Light

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Thank you! It is still entirely possible that Megaman is in. It is foolish to think that this man, though the creator, has sole power over the franchise.

I still fully expect Megaman. Am I in denile? Possibly. But I would rather hope and be yelled at by peers then give up hope and be a quitter. Rehab is for quitters, and I ain't in rehab.
. . .All Yojiro Ogawa did was produce SatSR. He has no say over jack/ aint the maker of Sonic/ never said Sonic wasn't going to be in. He was telling the truth. . . he is just a producer of the Wii Sonic game. Not nearly in the ranks as this guy.
 

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. . .All Yojiro Ogawa did was produce SatSR. He has no say over jack/ aint the maker of Sonic/ never said Sonic wasn't going to be in. He was telling the truth. . . he is just a producer of the Wii Sonic game. Not nearly in the ranks as this guy.
True, but he still is not the only man in Capcom.

I will use Yuji Naka as an example. He is still with Sega, but has nothing to do with Sonic Team. It is not like they specifically asked him if they could get Sonic in Brawl... in fact, I believe he said that he did not know.
 

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For all we know, Nintendo could have called him right now, discussing him as we speak. Maybe they started programming him but now are asking for permission. Which sounds retarted, but I wouldnt lose hope as a last minute character is always possible
 

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For all we know, Nintendo could have called him right now, discussing him as we speak. Maybe they started programming him but now are asking for permission. Which sounds retarted, but I wouldnt lose hope as a last minute character is always possible
In 2 weeks MAX?
 

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For all we know, Nintendo could have called him right now, discussing him as we speak. Maybe they started programming him but now are asking for permission. Which sounds retarted, but I wouldnt lose hope as a last minute character is always possible
Come on, fighting for Mega Man as hard as I am, even I know this is idiocy. The only way that would work, is if the game was pushed back some more months. I didn't even want Sonic that bad for that to happen.
 

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Come on, fighting for Mega Man as hard as I am, even I know this is idiocy. The only way that would work, is if the game was pushed back some more months. I didn't even want Sonic that bad for that to happen.
Sonic was announced because the game was delayed.

Not, The game was delayed because Sonic was announced.
 

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Sonic was announced because the game was delayed.

Not, The game was delayed because Sonic was announced.
I realize that. I know Sonic didn't cause the delay. I'm just saying that I'd rather have the game out and not have Sonic, than have a delay and have him. I mean, I love Sonic and everything, but he doesn't matter that much. Same with Mega Man.
 

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You know, I can understand the Mega Man's fan's pain. I never wanted or expected him, but I know a lot of people want him in for reasons I can relate to. But there comes a point when enough is enough and it gets to be embarrassing.

Yes, it's possible Inafune lied. Likely? No. He probably would have been prepared for a question like that and answered with something much more non-committal and vague. How about something like "Well, that would be quite a nice surprise, wouldn't it? But there isn't much I can comment on". That's just one example I made up. The man makes it very clear that Nintendo has not contacted him and he has not contacted them.

"Well, I really do love Super Smash Brothers. It’s a great series…but, Nintendo hasn’t asked me yet if they can use Mega Man in their game. I’m still waiting…we have a little bit of time left, it’s not coming out for another few months. They might get around to asking us if we’d like to put Mega Man in Super Smash Brothers. Maybe if somebody from Nintendo is listening to this podcast, they’ll give me a call."

There really isn't any loopholes that you can reasonably expect people to buy. It's unbelievable how people are saying things like "Maybe he meant that HE contacted THEM". I mean, give me a break. There's little chance that he would lie this elaborately.

Is it possible that Inafune wasn't told about Mega Man being put into a huge game like Brawl? Yes. Again, is it likely? Certainly not. Just because something similar happened with another game (X6?) does not mean it happened this time. I'll give Capcom enough credit to assume they would respect their head of R&D as well as Mega Man's original designer enough to tell him about something this huge.

The Sonic comparison isn't valid at all. Some guy who was not very high up in Sega (and was certainly not Yuji Naka) saying something as vague as "That's not on the cards right now" in an interview that had nothing to do with SSBB that was made months before Sonic's announcement is obviously not comparable to Mega Man's creator stating clear as crystal that Mega Man is not planned to be in Brawl.

And don't even think for a second there might be enough time to add Mega Man in before release. As was proved, this interview happened on the 19th. That leaves about 2 weeks for Mega Man to be entirely implemented into Brawl, considering production will likely wrap up before the end of December to allow time for mass production and packaging. It just isn't plausible.

Look, there's nothing wrong with supporting Mega Man. But how long are we going to dance around the 800 pound gorilla in the room? This was a HUGE blow to his chances, yet people are trying to delude themselves that it means absolutely nothing, or in some cases makes him more likely. Just do yourselves a favour and stop expecting him. If by some miracle, Mega Man gets in, it'll be all the more sweet. However, if as expected he doesn't, a lot of you are going to be even more disappointed and look pretty foolish.

Reality is cruel sometimes, but we all have to come to terms with it sooner or later. I find that sooner is the best path. That's all I have to say.
QFT for the new page. This is the best post I have seen here. Touches on every part of the subject in a unbais reality-check manner.

Either Inuf is out right lieing or Mega man has 2 weeks max to jump into the fray. Those are the 2 choices that seem the most likely to put your money on. . . and even than I wouldn't bet he is out right lieing.

I mean, this is pretty funny. Inafune said "no comment" and everyone saw that as a "confirmation" but than he says this and people rant about how he probly wouldn't know anyway.
 

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I never said no comment was a confirmation. No comment is no comment. He doesn't want to talk about for whatever reason.
 

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QFT for the new page. This is the best post I have seen here. Touches on every part of the subject in a unbais reality-check manner.

Either Inuf is out right lieing or Mega man has 2 weeks max to jump into the fray. Those are the 2 choices that seem the most likely to put your money on. . . and even than I wouldn't bet he is out right lieing.

I mean, this is pretty funny. Inafune said "no comment" and everyone saw that as a "confirmation" but than he says this and people rant about how he probly wouldn't know anyway.
2 weeks to jump into the fray? The interview was done when brawl had a 'few' months left. Few means generally more than a "couple" (2), so Im guessing the interview was done in october since it wasn't explicitly stated to my knowledge. That does sound late in the game, however.

But the thing is about people disbelieving it, precisely worded statements do SEEM to hinder chances. I don't believe anything has been said on who approved Sonic or coordinated his appearance and mannerisms. We are in the dark about how that came to pass.

I agree that the statements are discouraging, but they are in no way condemnatory.

To Cless: But WHY would he say No Comment? If he liked Smash Brothers as he claimed, he could have easily said "no and its a real shame", but instead he gives the "I know something I'm not telling" vibe.

To Chi below: All righty then. Then I have no idea why he would use phrases like "a few months" or claim that there's still time, because there isn't.
 

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2 weeks to jump into the fray? The interview was done when brawl had a 'few' months left. Few means generally more than a "couple" (2), so Im guessing the interview was done in october since it wasn't explicitly stated to my knowledge. That does sound late in the game, however.

The interview was confirmed by Capcom themselves to have taken place on the 19th of this month, which is a few days ago.
 

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thanks for this thread.
i dont even know why so many people thought it was even likely for megaman to be in brawl.
More or less wishful thinking.

I mean it would have been great as he would have had an awesome moveset an all.

Oh well, nothing can be done about it.
 

Kelexo

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Yes, yes my friends, disregard this and keep thinking Megaman still has a chance, just like we still have a chance to have online rosters, ZZS as her own character, ATs and Playable Characters, Ness returning and wavedashing to be put into the game.

You people put your hopes up regardless that the evidence right in front of you still doubts. Face it; it's not a confirmations, but it's basically saying he's out.

Although, I could be in denial in sheer happiness...hm.
 

Chi's Finest

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Yes, yes my friends, disregard this and keep thinking Megaman still has a chance, just like we still have a chance to have online rosters, ZZS as her own character, ATs and Playable Characters, Ness returning and wavedashing to be put into the game.

You people put your hopes up regardless that the evidence right in front of you still doubts. Face it; it's not a confirmations, but it's basically saying he's out.

Although, I could be in denial in sheer happiness...hm.
Yea, people just go into denial over everything. If that exact same quote came form someone that had to do with Geno, my most wanted character in Brawl, i'd be like "Darn, he didn't make it in. Oh well, I can always hope for the next Smash like I did with Pit." No matter whether you're a big fan of something or not, you have to take alook at evidence and realize what it really means.
 

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I never said no comment was a confirmation. No comment is no comment. He doesn't want to talk about for whatever reason.
You would be fooling your self to say no one ELSE said that. Really, the MM fans and fan boys was all over that like white on paper. . .

Those are the ones Im talking about.
 

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Love how you have a Jeff, Giygas, and even Moonside icon in your sig but poo-poo Ness. That's absurd, that.

Anyway, he didn't pull a Reggie and give us a straight "No." like some questions he's been asked, or how Keiji didn't say "No." to that question like some other things he's been asked *coughLegends3cough*, but instead optimistically said he wants MegaMan in the game.

Boy, it sure is presumptuous around here.
 

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People gave evidence to the contrary. That's enough for me. The statement is not conclusive. I'm not in denial. There's still a lot of doubt and ambiguity about the statement, so I don't see why it's being in denial. I didn't argue Ness when he was out. I'd rather he not be, but such is the case. This I will argue.
 

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Love how you have a Jeff, Giygas, and even Moonside icon in your sig but poo-poo Ness. That's absurd, that.
You are alowed to like a game and able to see a posible negative view about a character in it. Liking Mother doesn't mean he had to be blind to seeing Ness was out.
 
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