MDL0 files from Non-Brawl games

[Smash Bro]

I'm hoping Alpaca has a pretty good tutorial for this once he uploads the video. I really need help.

You can guarantee a good tutorial; Alpaca always makes good tut videos.

 

[GP&B]

That he does. Learned quite a bit about BrawlBox from him. I'm hoping he'll do this using an example other than the one the OP used. If anything, I would really like it if he defined things like what a header is and how to identify most of the particular bytes that RandomTBrush mentioned. I want to learn Hex Editing so I can start *somehow* fixing Lloyd.

 

[piggybank67]

just to put it out there for fun
since the mario kart stages are so big
couldn't u KINDA make a Supersmash RPG
something like SSE but like in versus and u can control the camera just by walking further into the castle (having it face sideways)

EDIT: and 1 comment abt ichigo
i think meta's down B does look like flash step u should keep it

 

[GP&B]

As far as I know (not much), SSE hacking dealing with full stages is fairly limited. That mostly has to do with not being a large focus at all right now. Considering the number of breakthroughs being made viable and refined (sound effect replacement, stage hacking, model editing, model replacement), we probably won't see much of SSE hacking for a while. I think a lot of hackers will become available once Project:M reaches a smooth sailing point as far as playability goes.

Still, I'd kill to see hacking done that:
-Prevents the SSE from forcing physic changes (unified jump height and run speed, overriding changes to ALR); the momentum engine unintentionally works, probably because Brawl never had one in the first place
-Completely changes the map system
-Creates a realtime switch-out mode
-Creates brand new stages with better Nintendo representation

That's a long ways away from now, but like everything else that has happened in hacking development, we can expect some in-depth developments later. As for staying on-topic, I can't say much beyond complaining about my lack of hex knowledge until Alpaca gets the video ready though I certainly do not wish to rush him.

 

[AMKalmar]

You know you want this.

Download this PSD to mix and match the hotties and bodies.

 

[Smash Bro]

DO WANT.

...Wait, match the who to the what now?

 

[AMKalmar]

The lonelies and the islands*

 

[piggybank67]

yeah just postin 1 more time
can anyone direct me to custom portrait hacks?
because idk how to do that
sorry im a noob on that

 

[AMKalmar]

I think you just use BrawlBox. They're in system > common5_en.pac > sc_selcharacter_en > char_bust_tex_lz77. Rename it to common5.pac when you put it on the SD.

 

[Isatis]

piggybank67: Use this forum next time: http://www.smashboards.com/forumdisplay.php?f=232

Thanks!

 

[piggybank67]

piggybank67: Use this forum next time: http://www.smashboards.com/forumdisplay.php?f=232

Thanks!

thanks i got it from the last post though haha

 

[shock44]

I'm hoping Alpaca has a pretty good tutorial for this once he uploads the video. I really need help.

You can look at my tutorial for the hexing. It's pretty good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u0pXNouG9Q

 

[GP&B]

You can look at my tutorial for the hexing. It's pretty good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u0pXNouG9Q

lolwut, I was just looking up videos for this >_>. I have no idea how I didn't find this. Anyways, thanks! I'll give it a view hopefully today.

 

[Kit Cal-N]

Some deconfirms. FROWNS!

Marvel Super Hero Squad uses .TRB
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Smash-Ups has each character entirely in its own .PAC

Figured I would try to get some American comics into the custom character mix...

 

[Girrrtacos]

You can look at my tutorial for the hexing. It's pretty good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u0pXNouG9Q

It's good, but part 10 (having to do with Materials1) was very confusing and that's where I got stumped. I'm still not sure how to do it from there on, can anyone please elaborate?

 

[RandomTBush]

Aaaalmost done with the World Martial Arts Tournament stage, just gonna make a few BRSTMs to go with it. There are a few problems with the stage that can't be fixed at this moment, though.

1. CPU players are IDIOTS. All they do is walk back and forth.
2. The characters don't cast shadows on the stage. I could possibly fix this if the material properties are modified.
3. The camera boundary won't go any lower, because of the fact that the grass is now the lower death boundary.
4. NEVER summon the Devil on this stage, or else...

But it is working perfectly fine otherwise, over Final Destination (I moved the stage so far up that the stars, etc. are nowhere near it).

 

[Eldiran]

Very nice! Looks like a fun stage, if the camera's not too uncomfortable. It's about time the Devil has a worthwhile effect

Can't wait to play on it!

 

[RandomTBush]

Very nice! Looks like a fun stage, if the camera's not too uncomfortable. It's about time the Devil has a worthwhile effect

Can't wait to play on it!

I'll be uploading a video showcasing the stage sometime soon, so that you can see how the camera boundaries are (and if they need to be tweaked).

 

[FrozenHobo]

Some deconfirms. FROWNS!

Marvel Super Hero Squad uses .TRB
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Smash-Ups has each character entirely in its own .PAC

Figured I would try to get some American comics into the custom character mix...

can you try bomberman land wii? i'd do it myself, but its taking 9 hours for just the first part of the iso (out of about 9).

 

[bboynotbgirl]

I have a question. With these models being imported now, say that the zero model is completely finished with animations, movesets, textures etc. If this model were to replace Link, could you do it through the Alternate File Loader method? What I'm trying to accomplish is keeping vBrawl with textures so that I may be able to play with others regularly, while at the same time keeping all these model imports as well. I'm not sure if these models become .pacs when imported into brawl, I don't have any knowledge model importing, but I would just like to know if it could be done.

 

[Slashy]

I have Bomberman Land wii, I will check it now.

 

[Kit Cal-N]

Hmmm LEGO Batman uses .FPK, but I'm having trouble using the FPK Extractor posted earlier in this thread.

 

[Squilliam]

Hey, has anyone considered trying to find .MDL0 files in games other than wii games? (360, PS3, N64, etc.)

 

[GP&B]

I think I did everything right as far as the MDL0 header goes according to the tutorial, but I think it's just the file structure itself from ToS Wii that's the problem like stated. The bones are extremely botched. I have absolutely no idea how one could fix this without extensive knowledge in hexing from this point. I'll mess around with it a little more, but it looks impossible for my abilities (or lack of).

I have a question. With these models being imported now, say that the zero model is completely finished with animations, movesets, textures etc. If this model were to replace Link, could you do it through the Alternate File Loader method? What I'm trying to accomplish is keeping vBrawl with textures so that I may be able to play with others regularly, while at the same time keeping all these model imports as well. I'm not sure if these models become .pacs when imported into brawl, I don't have any knowledge model importing, but I would just like to know if it could be done.

The models only operate from within individual FitCharacter##.pac files. FitCharacter.pac is the moveset while FitCharacterMotionEtc.pac is the animations and effects. You would have to alternatively load a file containing all three matching components.

@Squilliam: RandomTBush put in the OP that only MDL0's from Wii games are the only ones able to be imported.

 

[bboynotbgirl]

The models only operate from within individual FitCharacter##.pac files. FitCharacter.pac is the moveset while FitCharacterMotionEtc.pac is the animations and effects. You would have to alternatively load a file containing all three matching components.

Thank you for the response. I have already been using the alt file loader for PSAs and such, so I would just have to put the Fitcharacter and Fitcharactermotion pacs in the alternate folder i would like to load it from?

 

[mariorocks64]

I'm wondering if there are any games that have miis as MDL0 files.

 

[Tsuyoshio]

I'm wondering if there are any games that have miis as MDL0 files.

THANK YOU i was just about to ask that

 

[Garrett223]

I seriously NEED hexed darkrai model NOW someone pleeease send me a pac of darkrai replacing red alloy HEXED. I have animations taken care of do not worry

 

[MaRRoK]

3. I can, if you want me to.

5. Nope. The DragonBall Z games don't have MDL0s, so only the original DragonBall models can be used.

6. Like this?

AWESOME STAGE!
If so, I wanna work on it.

8. I think stage models for PokéPark are compressed, but I could be wrong. I'll have to check again.

YIPEEE!!!! diggin that stage dude

id like the kakashi, but its definitly no rush. its not even for me, its for a friend of mine. all i need is the hair so i can put it over snake.

alright good to know. thanx everyone

 

[L-a-t-e-r-a-l-u-s]

THANK YOU i was just about to ask that

Wario Ware Wii probably.

 

[Kei_Takaro]

@RandomTBush: Any other stage that we can replace with?

 

[Shiroyu]

Okay, since people seemed to overlook my post, I decided to take matters into my own hands.

I've gotta say, Monster Hunter 3 models are HUGE. The first model I tried was a switch axe over FD, and it was just... huge. I tried Rathian on FD, but it froze. Methinks it's because she's too big... or I did something wrong. Her model file isn't entirely like other mdl0s. (Plus she has 71 bones, but I'm not trying her on a char the way she is now. <_<)

Behold!

And the sad thing is, Rathian is one of the smaller wyverns in the game. I'm almost afraid to try Diene Moran.

The monsters also have "motion" files with CHR0 animations inside, but I'm not sure how to extract them or make them work. I also took a look at the stages, but they didn't look right. The BBox preview didn't show every texture/model. I'll give the npcs a look later, they seem to only just have the brres.

 

[GP&B]

Thank you for the response. I have already been using the alt file loader for PSAs and such, so I would just have to put the Fitcharacter and Fitcharactermotion pacs in the alternate folder i would like to load it from?

Yes, and that includes textures/models (which are FitCharacter##.pac like said before). So, in theory your folder structure would be something like this:
pf (this containing the original Link)>link>FitLink.pac,FitLink0X.pac,FitLinkMotionEtc (not necessary if you have no changed animations).
pf2 (this containing Zero)>link>FitLink.pac,etc.,etc.
Not sure if the folder names beyond pf2 would be changed also.

I'm wondering if there are any games that have miis as MDL0 files.

That's a good question. We should list them to start with and hopefully someone could rip .isos and check them out (everyone has Wii Sports so that's an obvious start).

 

[Charmander]

n00b question alert
Are models from the computer game SPORE possible to work on brawl?

 

[L-a-t-e-r-a-l-u-s]

n00b question alert
Are models from the computer game SPORE possicle to work on brawl?

Not yet. When we get a model importer, then possibly.

As of now, we can only use games that also use MDL0 models.

 

[alexjol]

Hey, has anyone considered trying to find .MDL0 files in games other than wii games? (360, PS3, N64, etc.)

Hey, has anyone considered trying to read the list of confirmed games that don't use MDL0s in the first page? lol

 

[Tsuyoshio]

Wario Ware Wii probably.

If someone could do Mii that would rock

 

[GP&B]

Theoretically speaking, if the Mii MDL0 was made of the Mii's you make in the Mii Channel, couldn't you technically get unlimited possibilities from this?
Either that or I completely misunderstand how the Mii works in that game. Is it like Mario Kart Wii where you import them from the Mii Channel?

 

[Suren]

Has anyone decided to do Batsu from Tatsunoko vs Capcom? Just curious, I don't want him I just want to know.

 

[JediKnightTemplar]

Couldn't you see if Miis from the Mii Channel were mdl0 by just using bootmii and checking through the files for the mii channel, or would it be in some kind of unreadable format for normal pc's? (those not used by ninty for development)