Why is it that you come on every character board, go into their matchup discussion, and tell them what their character can and can't do? Who the **** do you play? 65:35? I seriously wonder if you say stupid s*** just to start arguments.
No s*** ftilt outranges everything Zelda has, hell you can say that about almost any character. "ftilt outranges all of her attacks and once he gets close he grabs you"..........wow thanks for letting us know, I would have never guessed that.
See the thing is, getting into that range is hard for DDD. Sliding usmash beats all of his approaches. The only thing he could technically beat it with would be SH dair, but that's asking for pain if he misses. Lightning kicks trade with his bair and that's not something you want to be doing.
In case you didn't know, ftilt has some cooldown time. Couple that with the fact that Zelda has one of the best spotdodges in the game, ftilt isn't too viable for what you describe as "camping. One whiffed ftilt and Zelda punishes the fatass penguin HARD. In the form of a lightning kick or usmash. I doubt DDD players are going to sit there and risk being punished off a whiffed ftilt.
I don't need to camp with Dins, I merely need to force the approach and I do that. When he approaches, I have more options than him since I beat anything he can do to me in that situation. If you look at the Zelda boards you'll see I don't even think Dins is good, but in this matchup it is.
Zelda does fantastic against grab based characters, and DDD is no different. While DDD is significantly harder than the Ice Climbers for her, she still takes a lot of his stuff out the window. He can't chainthrow her, and with her spacing capabilities and priority it's hard for him to land grabs in the first place. "To make an attack effective you have to land it first and that's where Zelda fails against D3", just a great argument you made there.......see how I made the exact same one?
Believe it or not but in this game, some middle tier characters have fantastic matchups against the better characters. Most of the people in the country agree that Peach counters DDD because she takes a lot of his usual methods and renders them useless. In fact, Azen uses her as his personal DDD counterpick. Zelda does the same as Peach: beats him in the air, stays away from most of his grab game, ***** his recovery, combos the s*** out of him, and forces approaches.
I know your trying to come off with this elitist, cynical vibe........but at least know what your talking about when you come on other character boards' matchup discussions.
That mess isn't fair.
