Masked Marauders - Skull Kid For Smash! Night of the Last Day.

[Majora's Visage]

Post 2000!!!!!


Skull Kid definitely has some bandwagon effect behind him, trust me this place was pretty inactive before the direct. Not that I mind though, it's Great having more people around to talk about the character.


Question for you, when do you think Majora's Mask took full control of Skull Kid? Was it instant? Gradual? Something else? Something new? When Skull Kid put on the mask, did it just become a wicked manifestation of Skull Kids personality? Did it act Skull Kids dark buried desires? Skull Kid was the one who attacked Happy Mask, so he's clearly not completely innocent. And Tatl and Tael didn't exactly notice much change, they still chose to help him ambush Link. And Skull Kid showed his child trickster like personality here too, playfully using the Ocarina and trying to hide it from Link when he wakes up.


A lot of questions and very mysterious

It's an interesting question. You bring up all the points to suggest that Skull Kid still had some control up until maybe when he cursed Link or even with Summoning the Moon.

There is a really cool theory on the Mask itself on YouTube here https://youtu.be/guXHxiCAvSU

It's kind of long, but I think it's really cool. Honestly I would love if we got a Zelda prequel where we see who Majora actually was

 

[Deleted member]

Post 2000!!!!!


Skull Kid definitely has some bandwagon effect behind him, trust me this place was pretty inactive before the direct. Not that I mind though, it's Great having more people around to talk about the character.


Question for you, when do you think Majora's Mask took full control of Skull Kid? Was it instant? Gradual? Something else? Something new? When Skull Kid put on the mask, did it just become a wicked manifestation of Skull Kids personality? Did it act Skull Kids dark buried desires? Skull Kid was the one who attacked Happy Mask, so he's clearly not completely innocent. And Tatl and Tael didn't exactly notice much change, they still chose to help him ambush Link. And Skull Kid showed his child trickster like personality here too, playfully using the Ocarina and trying to hide it from Link when he wakes up.


A lot of questions and very mysterious

Hard to really pinpoint, but i think maybe he was in control most of the time and the Mask was letting him do his own thing, while perhaps making him get worse and worse with it's influence, like gradual, though he's certainly off the deep end by the time Link meets him on top of the clock tower.

I also wonder just how deeply tied is the Mask itself with Termina, because there's markings of it everywhere in each dungeon, yet the people in Termina have no idea about the Mask.

 

[NintenRob]

Hard to really pinpoint, but i think maybe he was in control most of the time and the Mask was letting him do his own thing, while perhaps making him get worse and worse with it's influence, like gradual, though he's certainly off the deep end by the time Link meets him on top of the clock tower.

I also wonder just how deeply tied is the Mask itself with Termina, because there's markings of it everywhere in each dungeon, yet the people in Termina have no idea about the Mask.

I think the markings are just there because the temples are cursed by it.


If someone were to ask me about my own Mask theories, I'd probably say it was created by the Dark Interlopers before being banished to the Twilight realm, perhaps they even used the Triforce to create it which is why it's power level would be above the Fused Shadow, the Mask could be why they were banished in the first place.

 

[Cap’nKazam]

Of relevance, Taylor’s did make a remark around the end of the game discussing how much control Skull Kid has over his actions.

“Yeah, yeah. I know... The Skull Kid was lonely 'cause nobody would be his friend. Blah, blah, blah... And the power of the mask made him do it 'cause it was too much for him to handle...”

Also, from Happy Mask Salesman:

“It is an accursed item from legend that is said to have been used by an ancient tribe in its hexing rituals. It is said that an evil and wicked power is bestowed upon the one who wears that mask. According to legend... the troubles caused by Majora's Mask were so great... the ancient ones, fearing such catastrophe, sealed the mask in shadow forever, preventing its misuse. But now, that tribe from the legend has vanished, so no one really knows the true nature of the mask's power...”

Seems like the mask corrupts the individual wearing it, although Skull Kid can hardly be blamed for succumbing to it, as even the Mask’s creators couldn’t control its power. Tatl’s thoughts also seem to indicate that it influences people to act out their very worst instincts, rather than simply taking complete control and using them as mere puppets. Although who’s to say what would have happened if Skull Kid continued to wear the mask much longer. From Majora’s own words, it’s own motivating factor seems to be about little more than simply consuming...everything!

I get the feeling though the mischievous nature was mostly Skull Kid - like Tinkerbell trying to kill Wendy because she can only feel one emotion at a time - lashing out from his feelings of anger and abandonment, and losing himself in the moment. It’s worth pointing out though that he actually did commit murder, so it’s hard to say how much of Skull Kid’s self was still around by the time events of the game began.

On a related note, both Majora and Fused Shadow do have a thing for tentacles!

 

[AnOkayDM]

I know the Twili having made the mask is the popular theory, but I don't buy it. The eyes look alike, but literally everything else the Twili designed looks completely different from the mask. I like the idea that the Sheikah made it. An ancient and mysterious tribe? Check. Sealed in shadow? The Sheikah are, by nature, people of shadow. Plus, by the time Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask have rolled around, the Sheikah have all but vanished, which fits with what HMS says. The kicker? The Sheikah symbol is an eye with three triangles above it and a teardrop. The mask may not have the teardrop, but it does have three triangles above the eyes.

Could be totally wrong, of course, but that's the theory I like the best.

 

[UserKev]

Japanese social structure values life far more than, say, the US. A natural disaster happens for us and we barely blink an eye unless we're in it or our family is in it. This is very sad. It's no time to be thinking about videogames, I don't encourage SSB colored speculation about the delay as the simple answer is that lots of Nintendo staff is likely rushing to be with their loved ones.

What does this mean for the reveals planned? How about stop thinking about it and try to show some respect.

This is real but it can't be helped because we have our own stressful days, to.

Anyways, something I thought of...How would the people feel if Skull Kid was called 'Skull Kid and Majora"? I just imagined that being a possibility.

I could get used to it. It sounds repetitive and awkward right now tho.

 

[chronomantic]

I think Majora's influence on Skull Kid was gradual akin to Gollum and the one ring. A slow but steady corruption of the mind.

 

[UserKev]

Question for you, when do you think Majora's Mask took full control of Skull Kid? Was it instant? Gradual? Something else? Something new? When Skull Kid put on the mask, did it just become a wicked manifestation of Skull Kids personality? Did it act Skull Kids dark buried desires? Skull Kid was the one who attacked Happy Mask, so he's clearly not completely innocent. And Tatl and Tael didn't exactly notice much change, they still chose to help him ambush Link. And Skull Kid showed his child trickster like personality here too, playfully using the Ocarina and trying to hide it from Link when he wakes up.

By full? At the top of Clock Tower. Haha I thought I already answered this. Skull Kid's characteristics were heavily displayed until Link reclaimed his ocarina.

 

[AugustusB]

I could get used to it. It sounds repetitive and awkward right now tho.

I highly doubtful they would do that, but a simple observation I had.

 

[UserKev]

****. Quote got messed up. This is why I hate this dump ** no doubt posting rule. At least it makes posting less difficult.

 

[JarBear]

Either it's Skull Kid or simply Majora's Mask. The Majora's Mask title/name is kinda a nod towards Duck Hunt ... using the name of the game for the multiple characters involved.

 

[AugustusB]

Either it's Skull Kid or simply Majora's Mask. The Majora's Mask title/name is kinda a nod towards Duck Hunt ... using the name of the game for the multiple characters involved.

I haven't even considered that implication. Now THAT would be a character lol.

 

[JarBear]

It's a 50/50 on how Sakurai has handled multiple characters as a fighter slot. For 2 of them, he used the name of the game for them:

Ice Climbers - Nana and Popo
Duck Hunt - Dog, Duck and Light Gun

The other half goes as follows:

Then there is Rosalina & Luma ... which does include the "other character" in the title ... which is Luma.

Lastly, we have Olimar/Alph that just uses the main character's name and leaves our the "other fighters" being the Pikmin.

 

[0007]

It will just be "Skull Kid". There's no reason to expect anything different.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

It's a 50/50 on how Sakurai has handled multiple characters as a fighter slot. For 2 of them, he used the name of the game for them:

Ice Climbers - Nana and Popo
Duck Hunt - Dog, Duck and Light Gun

The other half goes as follows:

Then there is Rosalina & Luma ... which does include the "other character" in the title ... which is Luma.

Lastly, we have Olimar/Alph that just uses the main character's name and leaves our the "other fighters" being the Pikmin.

In Brawl the character was actually called Pikmin & Olimar, the name change probably happened because of Alph becoming part of the character, so for clarity's sake they shortened it.

 

[Banjodorf]

In Brawl the character was actually called Pikmin & Olimar, the name change probably happened because of Alph becoming part of the character, so for clarity's sake they shortened it.

It was only Pikmin & Olimar in the Japanese version iirc; in the NTSC version at least it was definitely just Olimar in-game.

I think in the JP version of Smash 4 Alph is even called Pikmin & Alph.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

It was only Pikmin & Olimar in the Japanese version iirc; in the NTSC version at least it was definitely just Olimar in-game.

I think in the JP version of Smash 4 Alph is even called Pikmin & Alph.

Huh, that's a bit funny, he was still called Pikmin & Olimar on the US site for some reason. Maybe that name just stuck to me because that was what he was initially announced as.

 

[Banjodorf]

Huh, that's a bit funny, he was still called Pikmin & Olimar on the US site for some reason. Maybe that name just stuck to me because that was what he was initially announced as.

Yeah I remember that; it was super weird, especially when it wasn't reflected in game.

 

[JarBear]

So Skull Kid it is! Plus that was the name used as the assist trophy.

 

[Banette]

Y'all still didn't make it to 200 supporters? Sign me up, almost there.

 

[cybersai]

You know we really should have been rallying support for Skull Kid a decade ago, it's a shame when Brawl came out people pretty much gave up on him. If Skull Kid had been hyped for a decade he would have been on almost Ridley and K. Rool type tier and seen as a big villain, and may have been in by Smash U because he's a smaller character (Sakurai still thought Ridley was too big at the time), and had a remake coming the following year.

 

[UserKev]

Y'all still didn't make it to 200 supporters? Sign me up, almost there.

That's also a good thing because we're actually supposed to make it to 200 pages before Skull Kid is revealed.

 

[Waluigi is not getting in]

So there's a chance we could recieve direct info tonight or tomorrow early morning since Nintendo has already unpinned the delay tweets.

 

[Majora's Visage]

Wish we knew Skull Kid's status already. I'm getting restless lol

 

[AnOkayDM]

So there's a chance we could recieve direct info tonight or tomorrow early morning since Nintendo has already unpinned the delay tweets.

I hope you're right! I'm getting antsy over here. Besides, it makes sense; a few announcements have definitely already slipped through. I assume FFXV Pocket Edition was supposed to be announced yesterday, plus we got the leak about Yoshi's Crafted World. And that Mega Man 11 demo was obviously supposed to be announced to release after the Direct.

 

[Nazyrus]

Wish we knew Skull Kid's status already. I'm getting restless lol

Same… I hope the wait is worth for many of us and even maybe one more supported character too

 

[Its_Sho]

I’m willing to put money on him, geno, and shadow coming 100%. Maybe even in this postponed direct?

 

[AugustusB]

I’m willing to put money on him, geno, and shadow coming 100%. Maybe even in this postponed direct?

Now that would be quite a direct! I am betting we will see the direct before Monday.

 

[Demonfunds]

It's still hard for me to imagine Skull Kid in Smash, when he gets revealed it's gonna blow my mind, cause he's always been my pipe dream character who I honestly thought had no chance of getting in.
I really hope he gets in so we can celebrate together, as I've never had my most wanted make it into a Smash game.

 

[Cabbagehead]

I’m willing to put money on him, geno, and shadow coming 100%. Maybe even in this postponed direct?

Add Isabelle to that list and I'm right there with you. Even Skull Kid - the only character on that little list that I don't have 100% confidence in making the cut - seems to have everything going in his favor. I'll be legitimately surprised if at least three of those four characters don't make it.

 

[cybersai]

Of the remaining newcomers, a new Pokemon probably Incineroar is probably the only 100% lock.

But I do think Skull Kid, followed by Geno and Isaac have the most likely chances for remaining newcomers. I mean there's a chance we may get only 1 or 2 of the 3, but at least they're possible. Only alternative is if Sakurai goes with Chorus Kids or Elma or something, because there's really not much else.

 

[JarBear]

Im sure there is a new pokemon, but the "lock" for me would be Skull Kid, Shadow and Isaac because of the Directs and the photo Sakurai posted some time back.

 

[thirsty-pocket]

Adding my support.
Used to not be so hot on the guy, because I thought recurring characters like tingle and impa or more recent characters should get priority, but the fact that the Zelda cast has no been changed to visually represent games from all across the series has made me change my mind, now I feel like any Zelda character could get in. Not to mention the fact that Majora's Mask is probably the most recognizable thing in the series next to the Triforce and Master Sword.

 

[UserKev]

Wish we knew Skull Kid's status already. I'm getting restless lol

The earthquake happening RIGHT before the direct is honestly extremely frustrating.

Skull Kid constantly staring at the official Smash website page like.

 

[DerpingPikachu]

Hey i'm here to share my support. Even tho I have not played many Zelda games, I have really been hoping for a new rep since smash 4. I thought Ghirahim would be cool back then, but now Skull kid seems like he'd be a really cool and unique fighter so hopefully he gets in!

 

[Kensho]

I've been lurking without posting for some days now, but this is definitely the chillest community, so I wanted to come by and mention something I didn't see anyone else pointing out.

The smash site hasn't updated since the 5th, which could mean that there was important information in the direct that was supposed to go up at the same time, and it also got pushed back. Which at least confirms there is gonna be at least a character reveal!

 

[thirsty-pocket]

There was for sure important Smash news in that direct, including a character. Smash is the biggest known game on the horizon for Nintendo right now. They're going to be talking about it as much as they can, and if the situation is anything like Smash Wii U, I don't expect any Nintendo events to go by without Smash Bros reveals in them ( unless it's a more specific direct like a nindies showcase or a splatoon direct. )

 

[AnOkayDM]

It's kind of odd that they didn't put up a placeholder thing, but I guess they figured everyone would understand, since there was an earthquake. Or maybe the office wasn't even open!

 

[cybersai]

yeah, it's obvious the direct had at least 1 newcomer, I just wonder who it was.

As I said before, it was probably either Skull Kid, Isaac or Incineroar. They were the most likely 3 to be revealed at this point.

 

[UserKev]

Other than the earthquake, the last thing we need is for Sakurai to be injured. I would imagine he's always heavily guarded tho. Haha Dude is like what Tony Stark is to Iron Man.