Marth for Brawl thread (Fire Emblem DS = FE1 remake)

[raphtmarqui]

Theres some FE1 Remake footage here at 2:41 if anyones interested.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe6WZ2nvitk
Looks good

 

[Kirby knight]

Kirby Person, you better not be referring to Ridley

Excuse me? What are you even talking about? I never even mentioned Ridley at all nor was I referring to him in anyway. Unless your drawing it to this:

They also seem that every single franchise should have a villain in Brawl.

I don't see the point of adding a lackluster villain into the fray when other more important/deserving main characters deserve the spot. Ridley as least has warrant to his inclusion.

-Knight

 

[Biggie Smalls]

Kirby Knight, many of the Series in brawl are getting Antagonist reps. It'd be a shame if BK wasn't a Villian rep for FE. I mean, he's widely recognized as Ike's rival. It's like saying Wolf shouldn't be in Brawl.

 

[raphtmarqui]

FE is one franchise that doesn't NEED a villain.

 

[Biggie Smalls]

Kirby Knight, I was referring to Silver777 or the guy with the Kirby Avatar. Sorry about the mixup.

 

[Kirby knight]

Kirby Knight, many of the Series in brawl are getting Antagonist reps. It'd be a shame if BK wasn't a Villian rep for FE. I mean, he's widely recognized as Ike's rival. It's like saying Wolf shouldn't be in Brawl.

I don't see what the big problem is. Why can't the Black Knight just be an adversary to Ike in the subspace mode? Why does the Black Knight have to be playable?

Was this Wolf person that main antagonist throughout the Star Fox series? Sorry I don't know much about him.

Just because some franchises are getting antagonist-like reps doesn't mean "every" franchise has to get one. Especially one as unimportant as the Black Knight is.

-Knight

 

[EPX2]

Kirby Knight, many of the Series in brawl are getting Antagonist reps. It'd be a shame if BK wasn't a Villian rep for FE. I mean, he's widely recognized as Ike's rival. It's like saying Wolf shouldn't be in Brawl.

If you didn't notice, these series you're likely referring to happen to be series which feature a recurring cast of characters. That's the exact issue Zevox addressed.

Also, I agree that people are obsessing way too much with wanting almost every franchise to have at least one villain/female/etc. representative.

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

The Black Knight is nothing like Wolf. Wolf is a very recurring character in the whole Star Fox series, while the Black Knight just appeared in two games out of many Fire Emblem games.

 

[Doodx]

why blacknight wen hes theres so many awesome fe chars

 

[Biggie Smalls]

Wolf is a recurring antagonist rival. So is BK.

 

[Doodx]

bk also looks super slow char like bowser and i think we already will have too many slow characters and they just put one now ddd

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

Wolf is a recurring antagonist rival. So is BK.

Does BK star in just about ever Fire Emblem game? No, he only stars in two out of ten games. Wolf stars in pretty much every Star Fox game except for two, being a very important character in the whole series. BK isn't, he's only important for the two games he's in, not the whole Fire Emblem series.

 

[EPX2]

Wolf is a recurring antagonist rival. So is BK.

Wolf is a recurring antagonist rival in a franchise that features a largely constant cast of characters. Black Knight is a rival who appears in two games of a franchise that spans over 10 games, with almost each game featuring a brand new cast of characters. The two are not comparable.

 

[Biggie Smalls]

He stared in 2/3 of all American FEs, not to mention the only Gamecube and Wii FEs.

 

[Doodx]

look man wolf can replace falco but who will bk replace if marth is comin back who is more important in the fe series

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

He stared in 2/3 of all American FEs, not to mention the only Gamecube and Wii FEs.

There's four American FE games, and even then, what the hell does that have to do with anything? You think Sakurai gives a **** about what America likes? If so, why isn't Lyn playable?

 

[EPX2]

He stared in 2/3 of all American FEs, not to mention the only Gamecube and Wii FEs.

You see, BK's inclusion would be a lot more reasonable if what you said were true. BK doesn't star in Path of Radiance or Radiant Dawn; Ike does. BK is merely a villain in these two games. Does that make him a major character? Yes - but only in these two games. To the FE franchise as a whole, he's just another villain.

 

[Biggie Smalls]

Sakurai had better give a ****.

 

[Biggie Smalls]

You see, BK's inclusion would be a lot more reasonable if what you said were true. BK doesn't star in Path of Radiance or Radiant Dawn; Ike does. BK is merely a villain in these two games. Does that make him a major character? Yes - but only in these two games. To the FE franchise as a whole, he's just another villain.

Yeah, so then no FE characters should be in to your logic. Marth is just another hero, such as Ike, and Ephraim.

 

[Doodx]

marth is the first lord and he is very popular now it would be a shame if he left cuz now the new game is giving him a huge chance

 

[NukeA6]

Sakurai had better give a ****.

Sadly he isn't. I am sure Hector won't be playable.

 

[Okysho]

That's it, I'm pummeling you on WiFi Brawl with Falco decloned with his new arm, against the gay Sonic you'll main.

LMAO How who's being stupid? Falco? Decloned and put into brawl? Wishful thinking! Falco WON'T be decloned and will thus be eliminated from the roster. That's like saying Roy will be decloned and put in brawl LMAOOOO!!!! The idiocy!

 

[raphtmarqui]

^^Hector isn't even that popular.

 

[Doodx]

LMAO How who's being stupid? Falco? Decloned and put into brawl? Wishful thinking! Falco WON'T be decloned and will thus be eliminated from the roster. That's like saying Roy will be decloned and put in brawl LMAOOOO!!!! The idiocy!

well thats what is gonna happen with ganon

 

[NukeA6]

^^Hector isn't even that popular.

It sure looked like Hector's fanbase rivaled Lyn's. Then again, I haven't seen anybody supporting him lately.

 

[raphtmarqui]

You have to remember though that support on SWF doesn't reflect overall popularity of a character.

 

[GenG]

With Ike already in the game, Hector would be redundant. We don't need another FE heavy character. We need a fast one for balance.

Why to pick Final Fantasy chars for third party when you have such awesome swordmen in house? FE heroes rocks.

 

[Thrillhouse-vh.]

Sakurai WILL listen to Japan before the rest of the world, buth e is taking us into consideration, even for only one character (Sonic)

Zevox, please change your avatar. It's pretty annoying.

Heh, I should change my avatar just for this.

 

[Okysho]

well thats what is gonna happen with ganon

Yeah but Ganon was a rush job for Melee his character already posed enough potential for a new moveset, but Falco is EXACTLY the same as Fox, there's Star Fox Assault miltiplayer to prove it...

 

[Okysho]

With Ike already in the game, Hector would be redundant. We don't need another FE heavy character. We need a fast one for balance.

Why to pick Final Fantasy chars for third party when you have such awesome swordmen in house? FE heroes rocks.

I completely agree with you, but just a reminder, none of the cool final fantasy characters appeared on a nintendo system and therefore don't qualify as potential brawl characters... but either way... There are enough FE characters with unique movesets to frepresent the whole series... there's one already and an (officially) unconfirmed but extremely high chance (if he isn't already) plus there are about 5 others who have the potential to fill the spot as FE rep

ALSO! Keep in mind that there are about 30-35 character spots available

 

[EPX2]

Yeah, so then no FE characters should be in to your logic. Marth is just another hero, such as Ike, and Ephraim.

Re-read Zevox's post and you'll see why your argument is horrible.

 

[Roy-Kun]

LMAO How who's being stupid? Falco? Decloned and put into brawl? Wishful thinking! Falco WON'T be decloned and will thus be eliminated from the roster. That's like saying Roy will be decloned and put in brawl LMAOOOO!!!! The idiocy!

This words... I hate them.

Falco, eliminated from the roster? I hate those words.

 

[Okysho]

This words... I hate them.

Falco, eliminated from the roster? I hate those words.

yeah but think about it... I know there are some falco suporters out there but let's be logical here... besides... this is a Marth thread why are we arguing about falco? (That post was to prove someone else's post wrong btw...)

 

[Roy-Kun]

yeah but think about it... I know there are some falco suporters out there but let's be logical here... besides... this is a Marth thread why are we arguing about falco? (That post was to prove someone else's post wrong btw...)

I know, but the way you mentioned it, I hated it, Falco got his chances of returning, same with Roy, but Falco's are higher.

 

[raphtmarqui]

With the Wolf looking Fox palette swap, Falco's chances skyrocketed.

 

[Bassoonist]

Um... yeah. Is Falco not far more important to the Star Fox series than Roy is to the Fire Emblem series?

 

[Okysho]

I know, but the way you mentioned it, I hated it, Falco got his chances of returning, same with Roy, but Falco's are higher.

that, I'm sorry I can't follow you up on... with the introduction on Ike's standart B, Roy's chances dropped even lower than they were before... and they wer pretty low to being with considering his japanese popularity (his game never sold well)

 

[Doodx]

roy became very popular after melee but the thing is that does sakurai know? but i think he wont come cuz he was a clone same with falco. for them to come in they must be uncloned first i think

 

[GenG]

I think Ike is ocupping right now the role that Roy was supposed to have in Melee. I say "supposed", because Roy didn't do so well. It wasn't a matter of Roy itself but the way they handled it. I still wonder what's the point of having the longest sword in the game if you can't use it at its fullest.

 

[Doodx]

ye i mean everybody wanted ike to come and now that roy got a bit popular everyone is sad that he is leaving but marth was much more popular from the start so he wont leav and ike is the "slow character" like roy was in mele so sadly i think roy got replaced by ike