SiD
Smash Master
Wow, I didn't think of that rutsh. Two people, two awesome first posts, all in one page. Awesome day for SWF.
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Mario's Got New Moves?
- Thread starter Kirby King
- Start date
Spinach Ops™
Smashtown, Nowhere
You can clearly see Mario's dair in the first trailer right before Snake jumps from under the box.
SiD
Smash Master
No you can't, that's his down smash.
Takeshi245
Smash Champion
The only logical explanation for the Mario tornado is the dair. Uair was in the E3 06 trailer and fair was in the Nintendo World trailer. There's a high chance Mario will keep his bair. Side B can't be his Mario tornado because Mario's cape is confirmed in the E3 06 trailer. Dair is probably going to be like the Mario tornado except you have to use the A button and to get vertical height from the Mario tornado, you'll have to mash it like in the previous games.
red stone
Smash Ace
how does mario attack down though? every character needs someone downward move as an option while in the air
Takeshi245
Smash Champion
Just don't push the A button while he's doing the Mario tornado. You may be even able to SHFFL it if L-cancelling is in the game. I'm sure that shorthops and fastfalls will be in the game.
red stone
Smash Ace
an l-canceled tornado? lol
Lets not confuse what game design is. You don't design a move that is only accessible with advanced technique. Smash doesn't quite work that way. Down air moves are typically for using when enemies are below you.
And as a side note, I believe that Brawl will do away with "I'm falco and I can spike you with my FACE." In other words, if you're attacking with you're feet, only your feet will have the hitbox. This would also throw a wrench in SHFFLing making the tornado viable.
SiD
Smash Master
And you don't think they could make it attack down now because?
Zauron
Smash Journeyman
Despite the way the move looks, it actually does count as an attack at Mario's feet currently. Its pretty obvious for Luigi too - I often use the Down+B to hit people below me as I'm falling toward them as Luigi, since it has high priority even around his feet and will often hit through any attacks trying to hit me from below. I guess its because as they are spinning their feet spin too so it still does damage.
Granted, its not got as much attack range extending below him as many other DAirs do, but its not any worse than, say, Pikachu's or Bowser's range below their body on their DAirs.
Granted, its not got as much attack range extending below him as many other DAirs do, but its not any worse than, say, Pikachu's or Bowser's range below their body on their DAirs.
SpitFire15
Smash Ace
I'm just hoping the FLUDD doesn't take too much time to charge and that the max knockback from it is as crucial as everyone is making it to be.
X-x-Dyce-x-X
Smash Master
With this trend of Mario's dAir being the Tornado now, I'm seeing Luigi's being a one spin (or possibly two or three, but not a lot) Tornado with the same or similar abilities as his Melee dAir.
BTW Zauron, welcome to SWF. It's always good to see n00bs (title-wise, not skill-wise... you know what I'm saying) who can debate and hold their own like they've been here for a while.
Afro Boy2000
Smash Journeyman
- Joined
- Aug 5, 2007
- Messages
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From the pictures they never show that you can use the F.U.D.D in the air. I'm assuming that the tornado is his down-b in the air.
MetaKnight'sSword
Smash Lord
the F.U.D.D..? what, u mean like like Elmer F.U.D.D LOL j/k (^^)v
X-x-Dyce-x-X
Smash Master
"Be vewy vewy a-quiet. I'm-a hunting space-a animals. Huh-huh-huh-huh!"
And @Afro Boy 2000:
I'm not going to start up the debate again on whether or not that move is Mario's aerial dB, but take into concideration that it could also just as likely be Mario's dAir.
And @Afro Boy 2000:
I'm not going to start up the debate again on whether or not that move is Mario's aerial dB, but take into concideration that it could also just as likely be Mario's dAir.
MetaKnight'sSword
Smash Lord
No Not The Dair Thing Again!!!! D>
X-x-Dyce-x-X
Smash Master
^^^^
Exactly why I said I'm not going to start the debate again.
Exactly why I said I'm not going to start the debate again.
Takeshi245
Smash Champion
So...do you guys think that F.L.U.D.D. can help with Mario's recovery?
X-x-Dyce-x-X
Smash Master
If you're able to turn around in mid-air, use it, and then turn back around again to face the stage.
And it isn't going to turn into Hover Nozzle mode or Sakurai would have mentioned it. (Not directed at you Takeshi... unless that's what you think will happen.)
And it isn't going to turn into Hover Nozzle mode or Sakurai would have mentioned it. (Not directed at you Takeshi... unless that's what you think will happen.)
specialsauce
Smash Journeyman
hmmm that would be intresting pressing down b in the air could result in mario useing fludd as a jetpack like in sunshine
MetaKnight'sSword
Smash Lord
ahh but Remember...Sakurai loves to play his mindgames and not tell ppl things, so it might be able to turn into the hover Nozzle (I said "MIGHT") in the final draft of the game, or maybe not who knows....
X-x-Dyce-x-X
Smash Master
Yea, it might end up being in the game, and it would be a pretty cool idea, but I'm saying that it's not.
MetaKnight'sSword
Smash Lord
but heres one thing u have to agrre on...even if they let mnario be able to change nozzles....they can NOT put the Turbo Nozzle....nothing against it really....but if they put it in Brawl....it'll make him Run off the stage LOL
element_of_fire
Smash Lord
we've only seen fludd on the ground, and tornado in the air right? if thats true than my guess is his down b changes, fludd on the ground, tornado in the air
*edit- just read some of the topic, i guess this has been thought of alredy ....sweet i'm not alone
*edit- just read some of the topic, i guess this has been thought of alredy ....sweet i'm not alone
X-x-Dyce-x-X
Smash Master
Ugh... you people are all going to drive me nuts.
The only possible way for Mario's dB (which will ALWAYS be the F.L.U.D.D. and not the Tornado because it will be his dAir) to change it's form would have to be while Mario changed his position from on the ground, in the air, and crouched (if he even can [which he probably will be able to]). Technically, we have only seen Mario use the F.L.U.D.D. on the ground, but if the attack was that diverse then Sakurai would have said something about it. He does that, he hints to other things, and he didn't at all. He just said that it shoots and you can charge it.
The only possible way for Mario's dB (which will ALWAYS be the F.L.U.D.D. and not the Tornado because it will be his dAir) to change it's form would have to be while Mario changed his position from on the ground, in the air, and crouched (if he even can [which he probably will be able to]). Technically, we have only seen Mario use the F.L.U.D.D. on the ground, but if the attack was that diverse then Sakurai would have said something about it. He does that, he hints to other things, and he didn't at all. He just said that it shoots and you can charge it.
MetaKnight'sSword
Smash Lord
pLLLEEEEASE God......PLEEESE let this debate about mario's Move finally end on Monday XP
X-x-Dyce-x-X
Smash Master
Yea, let's get a "Standard and Aerial Moves" update starring Mario this week.
Takeshi245
Smash Champion
That'll definitely end this speculation. Chances are you and I are right, though.
X-x-Dyce-x-X
Smash Master
Takeshi my boy, there's no doubt in my mind that we're right. We'll show these foo's what's what, and then we can pity them.
MetaKnight'sSword
Smash Lord
ahhh but what if yur wrong though?
Takeshi245
Smash Champion
Only a certain update will tell.ahhh but what if yur wrong though?
X-x-Dyce-x-X
Smash Master
Either we get for the update, or we wait until the game comes out.
MetaKnight'sSword
Smash Lord
t both of u
yu that is tru fact right there (^^)v
yu that is tru fact right there (^^)v
sHy)(gUy
Smash Ace
I think this is interesting update, since alot of the characters can fly and glide, this move will be like an anti fly move, plus i dont think it will be too broken it will probly just push them away a litte bit
MetaKnight'sSword
Smash Lord
or maybe make them go flying at 75 mph LOL
In touch with the wii
Smash Cadet
- Joined
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- Messages
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or to make it realistic make it weigh them down since their wings get wet
X-x-Dyce-x-X
Smash Master
Yea! Or you can just hit a gliding enemy with any aerial move to stop them.
Zauron
Smash Journeyman
Thanks! I've actually been a Smashboards lurker since 2003, and I've been to several tournaments as Dr. Mario or Luigi. I just never really had much to post about until recently.
BokutoGuy
Smash Journeyman
are you talking 2 urself?
anyway i hope mario get more use of his mario sunshine abilities
KernelColonel
Smash Journeyman
Regarding the Tornado:
It's not his Up-B. His Up-B is shown in the You Must Recover! post.
It's not his Side-B. That's just illogical.
It's not his Neutral-B. We all know why.
It's not his Down-B in Midair. SAKURAI SAID IT WAS A NORMAL ATTACK.
The FLUDD looks ridiculously cool. I WANTS IT!
It's not his Up-B. His Up-B is shown in the You Must Recover! post.
It's not his Side-B. That's just illogical.
It's not his Neutral-B. We all know why.
It's not his Down-B in Midair. SAKURAI SAID IT WAS A NORMAL ATTACK.
The FLUDD looks ridiculously cool. I WANTS IT!