Mario Universe Mario RPG Games

[Firus]

The official thread for discussion of all Mario RPG games, from Super Mario RPG to Paper Mario to the Mario & Luigi games. Discuss your favorite Mario RPG, your favorite music, memorable characters, and everything else from the Mario RPG world!

 

[Spire]

You know, I've only ever played Super Paper Mario. I never got to experience the reputed golden RPG elements of the first games. Would you advise me getting them?

 

[ETWIST51294]

YES. SPM is **** compared to Thousand Year Door. The original is also better than SPM.

TYD is one of my favorite games ever.

 

[A_man13]

You know, I've only ever played Super Paper Mario. I never got to experience the reputed golden RPG elements of the first games. Would you advise me getting them?

Yes. Paper Mario is a series worth playing. They are all great games for various reasons.

Perhaps this thread could combine all the Mario RPGs (Super Mario RPG, Paper Mario, Mario & Luigi series)? They all have a lot in common with each other and that would condense the forum a bit.

 

[Firus]

Oh man, definitely get the originals. While SPM isn't bad (I borrowed it from my friend to play the first chapter to see what it's like, since getting it for myself isn't a priority), it's more of a Mario platformer with a level-up system and partners.

The first two are absolutely amazing. I've beaten #2 twice, and I'll beat the original at some point when I stop getting distracted by other games -- I started it (on the cartridge, I've had it on VC for a while now though I didn't get very far there) right before I got distracted by The World Ends With You.

Yes. Paper Mario is a series worth playing. They are all great games for various reasons.

Perhaps this thread could combine all the Mario RPGs (Super Mario RPG, Paper Mario, Mario & Luigi series)? They all have a lot in common with each other and that would condense the forum a bit.

Good idea. I considered doing that, but I figured I'd start with Paper Mario and see where it went from there.

I'll update the OP.

 

[ETWIST51294]

I've also beaten the 2nd one twice. I never beat the first one either, weird. o_0

 

[A_man13]

I've beaten the first and second one twice with TTYD like 5 times (I was like 7-8. I alternated Pikmin 2 playthroughs with it). I dunno, I like replaying games a lot.

Come to think of it, besides Super Mario RPG (which I need to get), I've beaten all the mario RPGs at least twice...

 

[Tacel]

Such a creative series of Mario Games.

I've only played the first one the whole way through. I really have to start playing TYD again.

 

[ETWIST51294]

I think I probably beat TTYD more than twice, I just can't remember. XD

Glitzville is the best level I've played on EVERRRR. I never found a game with a better level than Glitzville.

 

[A_man13]

I think I probably beat TTYD more than twice, I just can't remember. XD

Glitzville is the best level I've played on EVERRRR. I never found a game with a better level than Glitzville.

Ditto. I spent a month trying to figure out where Franchesca and Frankie were to get the tickets. I was eight and forgot the dock had more parts than just the save block and water...

But yes, Glitzville is the best level. Rawk Hawk is also a fun boss battle once you can play him twenty times in a row...

 

[CT Chia]

mario rpg is in the god tier of games

i absolutely love paper mario's style

 

[Yink]

Well, now we have a couple threads of different Mario RPG games.

 

[Zankoku]

I just beat the first one like two weeks ago. I've never played the second one, and I've only watched someone play through Super. : \

The first one was definitely amazing, though.

 

[T-block]

SPM shouldn't even be compared to the other RPGs. It's a different game entirely (I still really enjoyed it though).

I don't think I'll ever play a more memorable game than SMRPG <3

 

[satowolf]

SMRPG was the first rpg I ever played XD
and the fact that it was Mario was awesome!
It was different and it's still my all time fave out of the other games.

Long live Geno! XD

 

[T-block]

SMRPG is probably the reason why I could never take Bowser seriously, and why I always had mad respect for Peach lol

 

[satowolf]

Lol same here! XD
Bowser made me smile!
and Peach was just....awesome.
Hooray for healing! and NOT being a damsel in distress throughout the whole game!
Gotta love the out of charcter-ness

 

[Link2thelost90]

Lol same here! XD
Bowser made me smile!
and Peach was just....awesome.
Hooray for healing! and NOT being a damsel in distress throughout the whole game!
Gotta love the out of charcter-ness

who says Bowser was out off character for most of any of the mario RPGs he is mostly a comic relief villain XD

 

[A_man13]

who says Bowser was out off character for most of any of the mario RPGs he is mostly a comic relief villain XD

When has bowser not been the comic relief? After all, he's grade A, 100% Mushroom Kingdom aproved final boss material...

 

[DMG]

Paper Mario series... Man I know too much about those games lol.

If you have not played the first one, you are officially shamed by DMG. I don't care how you get your hands on the game (cartridge, Wii Download, whatever), you need to play the first one. Excellent Storyline, progresses nicely, good partners, great concept overall. The bosses are a joke ONLY if you understand fully how to manipulate the tools given to you. Otherwise most of them can be extremely challenging in a good way to defeat through "normal" fighting means. There are plenty of side quests and additional tasks to perform if you want to obtain or truly "perfect" the game. Plenty of badges to fool around with, items to use, cooking recipes to use, etc. You get to explore everything from the desert, to a Chilly Northern Mountainside, to a Tropical Island with a Volcano, to a Toy Box full of Shy Guys, To Flower Fields, etc. You will not be disappointed with that game. There are few genuine flaws in this game.


The second one, TTYD, is also pretty good. I found the plot line/partners just a bit too similar to the first one, and it was easier to be "broken" in that game, but it also had improvements over the original Paper Mario. Beating the final bosses is not the last thing to do (you can keep playing on after you beat them to do other things). Additional badges like W and L emblems are nice. Overall still a good game, but I feel the first one is still better overall. Honestly if the first one had just a few corrections, it would be one of the really close to "perfect" games out there.


The third one, Super Paper Mario, is a hybrid platforming RPG move around and do weird stuff game lol. It's not bad, but it did disappoint a lot of people who thought it would follow a bit more closely to the first two in the series. Nonetheless, taking the game at face value for what it is, it's certainly an acceptable addition to the series. The change in the battle system is understandable and the same with item changes, but it made it much harder for Mario and crew to realistically lose or even take damage even against the strongest of bosses. Especially with the help of Barry, you could beat just about anything in the game by playing a game of hit and run smartly. Dimensio, Shadoo, etc. Honestly the hardest thing IMO to complete is arguably the 100 man Trial at Sammer Kingdom because of the sheer number of enemies you have to prepare for and play so long perfectly to not take enough damage over time to lose a life. Even that can be done if you are a patient person without too much hassle. I also felt that Luigi was added to the crew WAY too late into the game. Getting to play as Luigi was great, but by the time you got to play as him the game was almost completely done. I mean you could say the same about Spike in the first Paper Mario, but you still had to beat the Crystal King AND go to Star Haven AND Maneuver through Bowser's Castle before the game was over so it was acceptable to get him kinda late. Luigi on the other hand, IDK. If he was available even a single chapter before then, I think that would have been much better. Maybe that's just me though.

 

[ETWIST51294]

Hey DMG, do you think the next Paper Mario should be like the first two or SPM? SPM was okay but it left a big void that never got filled. I was also saddend that the first two took me a month to beat while SPM took me 3 days to beat....WHILE I WAS GROUNDED. WTF.

 

[Link2thelost90]

the Paper Mario is a great series.
I loved both Paper Mario and Paper Mario TTYD
Paper Mario TTYD broken impossible jk (on my 1 file I have (my Mario has 5 hp XD) can do like over 50 damage in one jump DX)
I only did that because wanted 2 try a experiment on 1 file 4 the lulz
but it is still is a great game>:].

Super Paper Mario was good just not as good as the others ~__~

 

[A_man13]

SPM was a good game, but it's just not the same. Unless you are gauging the writing, comparing SPM to the others is just as fair as comparing apples to oranges. I'd say SPM was a bit stronger in the writing and creativity areas, but weaker in the actual game play.

 

[Link2thelost90]

SPM was a good game, but it's just not the same. Unless you are gauging the writing, comparing SPM to the others is just as fair as comparing apples to oranges. I'd say SPM was a bit stronger in the writing and creativity areas, but weaker in the actual game play.

I agree 100% percent on that my friend :bigthumbu

 

[ETWIST51294]

SPM was weird imo. A little too weird.

 

[A_man13]

SPM was weird imo. A little too weird.

It's certainly one wild trip down the Rabbit hole. Some of it was funny (The Dating sim, Cragnons) but as you said a lot of it was one major drug trip. World nine might as well be Moonside...

 

[ETWIST51294]

LOL I did like Count Bleck though. Mr. L is amazing.

 

[Yink]

The intro was just too long for me. That and...if I'm not mistaken (I didn't finish this game sadly) there really wasn't any RPG style battles. It was more traditional use Mario to jump on x bad guy or use y helper to get z result.

 

[A_man13]

LOL I did like Count Bleck though. Mr. L is amazing.

Mr. L is the best. Alright, Mr. Alwaysgetsbeatbythemanintheredcapwithamoustache, prepare to eat brobot (or something to that extent). $5 says that he is the origin of luigi's final smash...

@ Yink: It isn't an RPG but a platformer with a light level up system. And yes it is a lot of text and only bowser lines have the right to be funny.

 

[DMG]

Hey DMG, do you think the next Paper Mario should be like the first two or SPM? SPM was okay but it left a big void that never got filled. I was also saddend that the first two took me a month to beat while SPM took me 3 days to beat....WHILE I WAS GROUNDED. WTF.

The next Paper Mario IMO should be like the first two yes. I would prefer the next one to be a bit more creative when it comes to partners, or a few bigger changes in the plot line. For example, Star Spirits, then Crystal Stars, then Pure Hearts? Not creative enough IMO. Mario's always collecting stuff, usually 7 or 8 of them, before battling the final boss. Why not make it more/less/change the objects that are being collected? Why not collect pieces of a map, or parts to a machine that will allow you to travel to the final boss, or something other than STAR STAR HEART lol.

The battle system needs to be like the second one, with a few tweaks. Remove Super Guard (SUPER GUARD IS BROKEN), don't allow broken Items or Badges (AKA no "Danger Mario" like one poster said about keeping Mario's HP at 5 while dishing out ******** damage and also taking 0-1 damage per attack), either have partners with HP but have Mario take all the attacks or the partners have no HP like the first one and you can let them take an attack at the cost of them being out for that many turns (maybe half the damage instead of the full damage, or something where you can only do like 3 damage to the partner and have them sit out for 3 turns).

SPM was a good game, but it's just not the same. Unless you are gauging the writing, comparing SPM to the others is just as fair as comparing apples to oranges. I'd say SPM was a bit stronger in the writing and creativity areas, but weaker in the actual game play.

I think SPM was ok in writing, I do think though that because of the different gameplay that it needed to be stronger writing wise than the first two and it was luckily. Otherwise I could see that game as being an utter flop in all regards.

 

[Link2thelost90]

LOL I did like Count Bleck though. Mr. L is amazing.

(looks @ picture of Mr. L) OMG who is this masked man\\\sarcasm
Dimentio was a awesome

 

[A_man13]

(looks @ picture of Mr. L) OMG who is this masked man\\\sarcasm

It's obviously Waluigi. Look at the backwards L...

 

[Link2thelost90]

no its Luigi's evil twin igiuL lol

 

[A_man13]

Let's see here:

-It's certainly not luigi. Why, he is only a minor character in all the other games?
-Probably not Mario, peach, Bowser, Squirps, or any of the pixils
-Not wario or waluigi
-Not L
-Not Mr. A, Mr. B, etc.
-Not evil mario AKA igiuL

That leaves...myself!

 

[Lord Viper]

☆ I completed every Mario RPG game more than five times except for Super Mario RPG, I only completed that game once and currently playing it. I forgot how to block enemy attacks, lol. )= ☆

 

[Metal~Mario]

Mr. L was probably the coolest thing in Super Paper Mario.

Oh, I haven't beaten/tried the Flopside Pit yet.

Any pointers?

 

[Link2thelost90]

Oh, I haven't beaten/tried the Flopside Pit yet.

Any pointers?

???Don't die I actually don't know any real pointers 4 Flopside pit(completed it though) but being prepared 4 the worse would be a fitting thing to do I suppose >_>

 

[BSP]

Mr. L was probably the coolest thing in Super Paper Mario.

Oh, I haven't beaten/tried the Flopside Pit yet.

Any pointers?

I found that the wasn't really too hard. Basically, bring as many strong recovery items as you can (emergency rations give 50hp here, but i gorgot how to get them). Use ur pixels wisely, since avoiding damage is really the most important part. I wouldn't recommend using bowser in here since he's a big target, and IIRC he can't use cudge while under any of the bricks. Also, use Mario's flip to escape the top floor + bring any 3-d enemies to the ground.

It shouldn't be too hard, and the final boss is pretty easy.

 

[A_man13]

Fire flower + mushroom = emergency rations (I think). Really worth it to bring a ton IMO.

Playing Bowser's Inside story as we speak...

 

[Bowser King]

Fire flower + mushroom = emergency rations (I think). Really worth it to bring a ton IMO.

Playing Bowser's Inside story as we speak...

How far in are you? I beat the game already and am going through it again. Just can't get enough bowser

IMO, BIS is probably the most funny of the 3.