Mario RPG Discussion Thread

[ctt4lfecw]

My only real worry with Mario RPG is that the perfect timing attacks hitting all enemies and the triple move might make a decently breezy game too easy. I'm hoping that enemies have been scaled to fit both and/or that there's an unlockable hard mode beyond just the post game boss rematches.

Incidentally with Mario role playing games being remade, fingers crossed that Super Paper Mario gets its shot on the next console. Its a solid game that deserves HD visuals and the gyro could easily replace the pointer elements.

They very well could have rebalanced the entire game to accommodate the Triple moves.

 

[Teeb147]

Even with this, I hope they don't overboost enemies too to match it. The team attack may also be something like once per battle and disabled against bosses. It'll be interesting what they do with these things.

I'm pretty sure it's built over multiple battles and is available on bosses.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I'm pretty sure it's built over multiple battles and is available on bosses.

Honestly I can't remember well. My bad if so.

Still, pretty neat and interesting.

I like things lasting multiple battles as it gives more strategy/options~

 

[Teeb147]

Honestly I can't remember well. My bad if so.

Still, pretty neat and interesting.

I like things lasting multiple battles as it gives more strategy/options~

At this point I'm just deciding to trust nintendo implemented it well enough xD. It's hard to know how it'll all play out

 

[WeirdAlFan101]

Exactly 2 months away from today.

 

[ctt4lfecw]

Just speaking of what I’ve been doing. Ever since the announcement, whether it be on Facebook/Instagram/YouTube, I’ve been lighting up the discussions/comments. I feel the more I do that, then the more consciousness the masses/Nintendo will see. The remake seems to be keeping a good flow going. Even in my Super Smash Bros. League, I’ve made all the other players aware of the cause. I feel like since this is my most beloved title that it’s my duty. I’m going about it in a way that’s not “trolly” or annoying. I’m just engaging/speculating about the game.

 

[Peepo T. Skeleton]

GameStop is doing a pre-order bonus for Mario RPG. It's in store only though.

Six pins with the main cast and the game's logo.
I guess this is the first official SMRPG merchandise since the 90s

Edit: Also noticed the trademarking on the pins says "SQUARE ENIX Characters" so if anyone was hoping that Nintendo purchased the rights to SMRPG, uh, stop hoping.

 

[Dukefire]

GameStop is doing a pre-order bonus for Mario RPG. It's in store only though.

Six pins with the main cast and the game's logo.
I guess this is the first official SMRPG merchandise since the 90s

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More power to letting people remember/introduce Geno and Mallow to the world once again.

 

[Geno Boost]

Interesting thing to know about the remake this enemy had a confusing design that now we can see how it looks clearly

https://x.com/yakimeshi17/status/1704475187365007499?s=20

Another thing final fantasy 6 cameo was in the SMRPG the whole time but it was really hard to notice but now we can see it in booster tower

https://x.com/BridgeOfFaust/status/1702709237112013207?s=20

 

[Peepo T. Skeleton]

Interesting thing to know about the remake this enemy had a confusing design that now we can see how it looks clearly

https://x.com/yakimeshi17/status/1704475187365007499?s=20

Another thing final fantasy 6 cameo was in the SMRPG the whole time but it was really hard to notice but now we can see it in booster tower

https://x.com/BridgeOfFaust/status/1702709237112013207?s=20

The table with the armor has a "B" on it in the remake, which I assume stands for Booster.

Looking at the original it's now obvious the the table used to have the initials "B.K." on it.

I guess Booster's last name starts with a K... except not, because they removed it.

 

[ctt4lfecw]

GameStop is doing a pre-order bonus for Mario RPG. It's in store only though.

Six pins with the main cast and the game's logo.
I guess this is the first official SMRPG merchandise since the 90s

View attachment 377981
Edit: Also noticed the trademarking on the pins says "SQUARE ENIX Characters" so if anyone was hoping that Nintendo purchased the rights to SMRPG, uh, stop hoping.

Vert excited about this to commemorate 27 years of waiting! Some Mario RPG merch goes for an arm and a leg on eBay. I still think there’s hope for Mallow and Geno amiibo down the line too!

More power to letting people remember/introduce Geno and Mallow to the world once again.

Oh yeah. It’s a beautiful thing.

Interesting thing to know about the remake this enemy had a confusing design that now we can see how it looks clearly

https://x.com/yakimeshi17/status/1704475187365007499?s=20

Another thing final fantasy 6 cameo was in the SMRPG the whole time but it was really hard to notice but now we can see it in booster tower

https://x.com/BridgeOfFaust/status/1702709237112013207?s=20

A real plus no doubt that objects that were once hard to make out are now readable, like Croco’s hands holding his loot.

 

[Quillion]

I just hope this wave of RPG remakes paves the way for RPG characters appearing in the sports and party spin-offs.

I sincerely think Geno, Goombella, and Fawful are among the coolest Mario characters to ever exist, main series or not.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Congrats to you all with this big revival. Arguably two of the best Mario RPG entries getting a remake is huge. I expected SMRPG to an extent with how active Square is on the Switch, but TTYD? Huge win right there. Actually thinking of getting both games.

 

[kiteinthesky]

GameStop is doing a pre-order bonus for Mario RPG. It's in store only though.

Six pins with the main cast and the game's logo.
I guess this is the first official SMRPG merchandise since the 90s

View attachment 377981
Edit: Also noticed the trademarking on the pins says "SQUARE ENIX Characters" so if anyone was hoping that Nintendo purchased the rights to SMRPG, uh, stop hoping.

Welp, guess who's going to be camped out in front of Gamestop tomorrow morning and why

 

[Dukefire]

Well, at least people have 2 months before SMRPG release. So, there is time for a pre-order if you want to. Just don't wait till the last minute if you are planning to get it.

 

[ctt4lfecw]

Welp, guess who's going to be camped out in front of Gamestop tomorrow morning and why

No doubt. It’ll be so cool to do midnight release with the SMRPG faithful. I’ll be with my people!

 

[Peepo T. Skeleton]

Some more pre-order bonuses that I had to dig for a bit to find because these "pre-order guides" aren't doing their one job.

As usual, Japan gets probably the best of the bunch with a wallet featuring the main characters:

There's a Walmart Canada exclusive keychain:

Kinda neat. Not as good that one keychain for the OG game though:

Credit to Geno Boost from 8 and a half years ago for that last image lol

 

[kiteinthesky]

Some more pre-order bonuses that I had to dig for a bit to find because these "pre-order guides" aren't doing their one job.

As usual, Japan gets probably the best of the bunch with a wallet featuring the main characters:
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There's a Walmart Canada exclusive keychain:
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Kinda neat. Not as good that one keychain for the OG game though:
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Credit to Geno Boost from 8 and a half years ago for that last image lol

So much stuff I'm going to be buying on Ebay. Ohh, my poor bank account. My poor wallet. I can hear my credit card screaming in the distance.

 

[Nabbitfan730]

Sorry, i was late to the party but damn, are we eating or are we EATING.

Mario RPGs literally returning from the brink. SMRPG and now Thousand Year Door. Good times we are living rn

 

[Teeb147]

the bonuses look kinda bland to me. still would be nice to have but i might preordre at my local game store and i dont think they'd get these

 

[kiteinthesky]

the bonuses look kinda bland to me. still would be nice to have but i might preordre at my local game store and i dont think they'd get these

They do at GameStop. I just preordered mine.

I do wish we'd get keychains or plushies or something too, though.

We should make Nintendo put out a line of Super Mario RPG plushies. Ooh, and TTYD ones. Paper Mario ones in general really

 

[Teeb147]

plushies would be awesome.

 

[Peepo T. Skeleton]

the bonuses look kinda bland to me. still would be nice to have but i might preordre at my local game store and i dont think they'd get these

Yeah, these days the only good bonuses come from collector's editions, and scalpers absolutely eat that stuff up.
I remember trying to get the Metroid Dread one but having to settle for a crappy coffee cup:

Spoiler

 

[kiteinthesky]

---Mods delete please, accidental repost---

 

[Quillion]

...plushies. Ooh, and TTYD ones. Paper Mario ones in general really

I'm not so sure how well that idea will work given that the Paper Mario characters are deliberately flat and acknowledged as such in-universe.

 

[kiteinthesky]

I'm not so sure how well that idea will work given that the Paper Mario characters are deliberately flat and acknowledged as such in-universe.

It's just a plushie. They make plushies for any old thing as long as the franchise is popular, so I don't see why Paper Mario plushies would hurt.

Everyone would buy the hell out of Goombella and Vivian dolls and we both know this.

 

[Peepo T. Skeleton]

I'm not big on plushies but I might reconsider if they made an Admiral Bobbery one.

 

[WeirdAlFan101]

https://twitter.com/PownicMania5000/status/1705785502505324946?t=rGZuo1qep-0No2VSQ4MrMA&s=19

This is the price we had to pay, for getting the TTYD remake announced, in a time where Twitter is under the ownership of Melon Husk.

 

[Dukefire]

https://twitter.com/PownicMania5000/status/1705785502505324946?t=rGZuo1qep-0No2VSQ4MrMA&s=19

This is the price we had to pay, for getting the TTYD remake announced, in a time where Twitter is under the ownership of Melon Husk.

Again, the internet spreading fabricated information to start another virtual debate. As a gamer, I don't care about those details as long it doesn't affect the gaming experience.

 

[Peepo T. Skeleton]

Yeah, online discussion about Vivian is going to be a s***show as soon as we get any info about her.

Nintendo seems to be making some graphical changes to bring every version of the game in line with one another, but aside from some from a few kind of arbitrary changes, the localization appears to be the same so far.

They're going to be stepping into a minefield of angry Twitter users and clickbait Kotaku articles regardless of whether the script regarding Vivian is different or not.
Silver lining? Maybe the increased attention will help drive sales.

 

[Nabbitfan730]

As along they stick to the Original Japanese intention, then it should be fine.


It's X so i doubt it.

 

[Griselda]

Hey. I had a whole more in-depth post planned, concerning my thoughts and responses to... well, everything that's gone down for Mario RPGs recently. But then I got sidetracked by other stuff, including my birthday, and I was honestly just caught off-guard by TTYD getting a remake. Even though I'd been keeping an eye on the rumors for months, I was expecting it to not even be revealed until late next year if it was real. Guess Nintendo proved me wrong.

So, considering I'm not sure when I'll get to writing that in-depth post, I figured I'd just pop in and see what's been going on here, at least.

People are talking about whether or not the script regarding Vivian will be updated or changed? Honestly... while I can understand why some people would be upset if it stayed the same as the original English script, I wouldn't be too bothered, myself. I mean...

You'd think I'd be the one to push for more representation, right? But, personally, I feel that whether Vivian is treated as trans or cis isn't actually very important for her overall story and character arc. It's about her self worth and standing up for herself, and whether Beldam misgenders her or not doesn't add or remove anything from that. Vivian was still being abused either way, and I think that was communicated well enough with the localisation. But then again... that's just my take on it.

I'm honestly just happy that Vivian is back at all. I'm happily surprised that we're getting such varied character designs in a modern Paper Mario - and, yes, it is just a remake, but that hasn't stopped design changes from happening in the past, like with the Mario and Luigi series. If this really was just an upscaled port of the Gamecube original like the rumors suggested, I'd be willing to believe that it could be brushed off, but this being a full remake with from-the-ground-up reworked visuals tells me that Nintendo put both thought and money into maintaining the original designs for the party members and NPCs.

Which, of course, obviously also includes the Goombas and Koopas and such. They likely could've just reused the character assets from Origami King and gotten away with it. But, to me... this remake means that they're counting on thick-eyebrowed Goombas and Toads with hair to sell. Sure, you could say that they're banking on old-school Paper Mario fans to make up a sizable portion of the sales, but they're still taking this risk with reverting the design changes they made for brand consistency, whether it was an in-house idea or just something they approved. This is an important turning point for the aesthetics of Mario spinoffs, I feel, and Nintendo has to have at least a decent amount of faith in this paying off.

Me? I'm buying two because I saw a Toad with a mustache, and I'm not afraid to admit that.

 

[Peepo T. Skeleton]

We're less than 2 months out from SMRPG Remake and they still haven't directly said who's developing the game.

I was wrong a while back when I said Square always leaves remakes to other devs because Live A Live was co-developed by them and another studio, so I'm beginning to think this one is actually being made by Square and/or Nintendo themselves.

Also, Mallow's Psychopath has a new, less clever but more intuitive name:

Not sure if Nintendo has shared anything else about the games because Twitter is still screwed up and I don't want to make an account.

 

[WeirdAlFan101]

So, this is probably going to seem incredibly obvious, but we've seen from screenshots that the Triple Move meter is always present, even before Geno joins the party. So if you keep battling and grinding prior to that, to the point where the gauge fills up completely, what happens then? Does it just stay maxed out, where nothing can be done about it, until at least the Bowyer fight?

 

[Swamp Sensei]

So, this is probably going to seem incredibly obvious, but we've seen from screenshots that the Triple Move meter is always present, even before Geno joins the party. So if you keep battling and grinding prior to that, to the point where the gauge fills up completely, what happens then? Does it just stay maxed out, where nothing can be done about it, until at least the Bowyer fight?

I'm assuming there are smaller two person super moves. Maybe Mario and Mallow have one.

 

[kiteinthesky]

I'm assuming there are smaller two person super moves. Maybe Mario and Mallow have one.

Ooh, the possibility that SMRPG now has dual and triple techs fills the Chrono Trigger fan in me with nerdy glee.

 

[Nabbitfan730]

In Super Mario RPG Remake you can alternate between the remixed music and the original music.

I can't get over how good the visuals are. They modernized everything, but still kept the blocky look from the original. pic.twitter.com/mV0ED5WnAe

— Stealth (@Stealth40k) October 3, 2023

 

[ctt4lfecw]

Heh, I’m surprised we don’t have a count down to the big day.(Insert Count Down boss from Smithy Factory here)

 

[WeirdAlFan101]

(1) Chris Niosi on X: "24 hours 'til the release of Rawest Forest REMAKE. YT (dot) com (slash) kirbopher15 @ Noon PST 10/10 https://t.co/2aMd0XHoCT" / X (twitter.com)

This should help do wonders in making the remaining month or so of waiting a little more tolerable.

 

[ctt4lfecw]

Ah what a great feeling it is! GeNovember is upon us! What a blessed time!