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Mario RPG Discussion Thread

ZacSc

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Yeah I thought about this myself!!! I love his content and I know he said he was sick or something. I think it's coming. Maybe I'll tweet at him or something because I'm curious too.

I also hope Mar10 Day brings a decent discount for Mario RPG to give the people who didn't want to buy it at full price a chance to get it. They were around 3.14M as of December 31st. I still want to see it hit 5M. I think if they hit 5M, there is no way they don't make a sequel.

EDIT Also I found it fascinating looking at Mario vs. DK's first week sales in Japan. It sold 61,930 copies in Japan (physicals). Mario RPG sold 301,334 physical copies. Not that I think Mario vs. DK is on the same level, but both were remakes of old games. Mario RPG sold almost five times more. I think this is pretty substantial. Mario vs. DK was never going to sell as much as Mario RPG. But I think it's a testament how well Mario RPG's first week sales were. I think the Peach game will be an interesting comparison. I tend to think it'll be somewhere between Mario vs. DK and Mario RPG.
Mario RPG turned out to be very good, a lot of people liked it. I don't think the price drop will bring a lot of sales since all fans bought it a long time ago.
 

ctt4lfecw

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Yeah I thought about this myself!!! I love his content and I know he said he was sick or something. I think it's coming. Maybe I'll tweet at him or something because I'm curious too.

I also hope Mar10 Day brings a decent discount for Mario RPG to give the people who didn't want to buy it at full price a chance to get it. They were around 3.14M as of December 31st. I still want to see it hit 5M. I think if they hit 5M, there is no way they don't make a sequel.

EDIT Also I found it fascinating looking at Mario vs. DK's first week sales in Japan. It sold 61,930 copies in Japan (physicals). Mario RPG sold 301,334 physical copies. Not that I think Mario vs. DK is on the same level, but both were remakes of old games. Mario RPG sold almost five times more. I think this is pretty substantial. Mario vs. DK was never going to sell as much as Mario RPG. But I think it's a testament how well Mario RPG's first week sales were. I think the Peach game will be an interesting comparison. I tend to think it'll be somewhere between Mario vs. DK and Mario RPG.

Thank you for reaching out to him!
 

TBone06

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Mario RPG turned out to be very good, a lot of people liked it. I don't think the price drop will bring a lot of sales since all fans bought it a long time ago.
That's possible. But there were a LOT of people who didn't buy it because they were waiting for a price drop. So I wouldn't be surprised for a mini surge of sales. MAR10 Day always brings decent discounts (assuming they do it again).
 

TBone06

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It makes me so proud to see Super Mario RPG and Paper Mario 2 included in this montage, with Paper Mario as the last game too.

I haven't seen this until now! This was a fun video!

Well I am a little bummed they didn't discount Mario RPG, but it's possible they are still seeing what they feel are decent sales and don't feel the need to. Or they just didn't want to discount a newer game, which is totally possible. I did finally bite the bullet and picked up Mario Kart 8 for MAR10 Day and Luigi's Mansion 3 as well. I would have picked up New Super Bros U Deluxe if they discounted it. But they didn't. I still want to see Mario RPG hit 5 million in sales. I think TTYD will do at least the same amount as Mario RPG if not more. It'll be fun to see!
 

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Nintendo's put out a survey asking about Mario RPG, Mario & Luigi, and Paper Mario

Given that we've had strong success with the Mario RPG remake, and Thousand Year Door's looking pretty solid commercially, it could be that Nintendo's testing the waters for what fans want from the sub-franchises.
Holy s*** I need to participate in this! I remember they used those survey results from Super Paper Mario saying people didn't like the story as an excuse to strip Sticker Star of everything that made Paper Mario memorable, and this could be the chance to turn things around completely!

But how? I have a Nintendo account, yet I didn't get any email...
 
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Mushroomguy12

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Just finished replaying Paper Mario 64! Truly one of the finest games I've played, it's aged beautifully and just as good when I played it the first time. Now that I've finished both the Super Mario RPG remake and this, very excited to replay the GCN remake.

The first 3 Paper Marios have a special place in my heart, really wish I could participate in that survey... if anyone still knows a way to find it?
 

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So, I finally got my hands on Princess Peach: Showtime! the other day. I haven't made it very far, yet, but...

...it's definitely not exactly the same, and it's also got that distinct Modern Mario flavor.. but for some reason, I'm getting major Wario World vibes from it.
Anyone else know what I mean? Or am I just crazy?


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LiveStudioAudience

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I hope SPM gets a good HD remake on the Switch 2. It's the last of the console Mario RPG's that could use a good visual polish, and there's plenty of little OoL improvements and features to really make a new version the ideal way to play it.
 
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Mushroomguy12

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Despite the gameplay maybe not being as good as the first 2 games, I really love the story, world design, music, and characters, the plot was very heartwarming and emotional and I remember finishing the game as a kid and feeling incredibly sentimental, far more than anything in the Sticker Star games.
 

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It's so beautiful.... I've always dreamed of what a classic Paper Mario RPG would look like with in modern visuals.... (and not "modern" in terms of Sticker Star trilogy's sanitized version of modern, but genuinely modern in terms of graphical presentation. They updated everything that could positively be updated (the visuals, presentation, graphics, voice acting) but kept everything that was fine as is (unique character designs, unique worlds)).


If this does well, we might have a possibility of getting a brand new game in the style of the first two with all the modern graphical presentation.
 
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Griselda

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Y'know, I think I'm okay with 99% of the changes to TTYD in the remake. Even the altered dialogue here and there is okay for me, honestly, since there's so much else that's tweaked that it just doesn't stand out as much.

The only things still bugging me are a handful of environmental decisions, which I suppose should be expected. Rogueport is still just a tad too clean, but it's clear that they spent a ton of time trying to carry so many small details over that I'll give it a pass for their otherwise admirable dedication to being faithful, even down to specific cracks in windows.

I don't really like those... bushes? Rock pillars? Whatever the blue things with eyes are. Them being made out of just two flat planes interlocking seems a little unusual, considering they've shown other ways to stylize rounded objects, like the pipes and the Twilight Town pigs. I'm also not quite a fan of the water being paperized, but I think I can get used to it, since it's still rather pretty.

But the part that's actually bugging me? I don't like how all of the ground has that waxy, reflective sheen. It works great for the polished wood floor of the stage during battles. But for the grassy fields? ...Not so much.
Even if we go with the "well, the art style is that the environment is meant to be arts and crafts mimicking natural materials" explanation, there's still a ton of texture variation with different varieties of paper, cardboard, etc. in real life, so that doesn't really justify it.
 

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I'm glad they kept all the unique character designs, my greatest fear was seeing what they did with the Mario and Luigi remakes on 3DS where they sanitized a bunch of the character designs to fit the stale homogenized cookie cutter corporate "NSMB" safe generic designs, but no, they seem to be genuinely leaving them as is like with the Super Mario RPG remake and just focusing on graphical textures instead, which is excellent.
 

WeirdAlFan101

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An engineer for Nintendo of America has stated that Vivian's original story of being trans will be kept in the TTYD remake.

As proof of their legitimacy, their name was featured in the credits for Tears of the Kingdom.
 

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WeirdAlFan101

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False alarm. From what I've just learned, that namedrop in the credits was photoshopped. The actual name that appears there is Pamela Waters.

I still think the idea isn't out of the realm of possibility, but this one was a mistake, on my part. My bad.
 

ctt4lfecw

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Put my preorder down on Paper Mario TTYD at GameStop!
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StrangeKitten

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So, I finally got my hands on Princess Peach: Showtime! the other day. I haven't made it very far, yet, but...

...it's definitely not exactly the same, and it's also got that distinct Modern Mario flavor.. but for some reason, I'm getting major Wario World vibes from it.
Anyone else know what I mean? Or am I just crazy?


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Small, quirky game starring a Mario side character that has kinda darker vibes than your typical Mario game? Like literally, the lighting is overall darker? I can definitely see it!
 

TBone06

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We’re winning
I won't lie, as someone who has been keeping a very close eye on this, I was hoping for a bit more of a bump in this quarter. My number I always wanted to see was 5M, which seems like a bit of a stretch at this point. But that being said, being the fourth best selling Mario RPG game... being a remake of a game made 27 years prior... you have to be happy with that. I think if it wasn't full price it would have had a bit more of a bump. I also think if it was a completely new game, it would do a lot better. So there are still lots of reasons to be optimistic. It will also definitely pass The Origami King. But I do think TTYD has a shot to exceed it as well.
 

TBone06

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Happy Birthday to the release of SMRPG in the states! Usually every year I commemorate the occasion, but this year it’s different, and for good reason. Words can’t convey how proud of our fan base that we got our game remade with such fanfair.View attachment 389272
Not sure if you made this or not, but either way it's super cool. I had to take about five minutes to go through the pic and look at each design and it really is a perfect representation of the game as as whole. Here's hoping we get a true sequel at some point and see some of these characters back in action! I too put in my pre-order for TTYD, so lets hope for success on that one as well.
 

Mushroomguy12

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Been trying to preorder Paper Mario remake, checked both Amazon and the Nintendo website all this week and no availability (for physical edition), then went on gaming news and saw that both Amazon and Walmart have been cancelling preorders for physical like crazy and Walmart only selling in store....

Looks like there's some supply issues going on with some retailers, at least in parts of the US (I don't know if it's different in other countries).
 
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ctt4lfecw

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Not sure if you made this or not, but either way it's super cool. I had to take about five minutes to go through the pic and look at each design and it really is a perfect representation of the game as as whole. Here's hoping we get a true sequel at some point and see some of these characters back in action! I too put in my pre-order for TTYD, so lets hope for success on that one as well.
Nah, I can’t take credit for this art. The artist credit I believe is on the bottom right. Thx though!
 

WeirdAlFan101

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All they need to do now, is change the ending where she stays with Beldam, just because of being a "FaMBiLy."
 
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