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[Coolwhip]

Thanks, matador....Idk any toons offline though.
I do be having trouble playing against quest's toonlink lately on wi-fi, so hard to approach him.

 

[iMichael]

Fireballs are a plumber's best friend. (offline)

 

[Coolwhip]

Is there a frame data on fludd?

EDIT: NVM. I've found it.

 

[steep]

Coolwhip, a note about the Toon Link MU… At the risk of sounding like A2Z, Mario has the tools to keep toon link from camping him imo. Between cape beating everything (turn around cape for bombs) and fludd beating everything, and fireballs beating everything but bombs… You can really stop his camping game from working. I played MJG in pools at my last tourney, and I actually managed to force him to approach because I negated his camping. Then, you can do just what Matador said. Walk to your destination, power shield, and beat him in CQC. I would say utilize ftilt and jabs a lot and work on PS'ing zair. Watch out for short hop zair fast fall to short hop follow up Nair though. That is sick and very frustrating when fighting a Toon Link who consistently does that well. I would say a possible good set up for kills against TL is to jab or ftilt him to get him just out of jab range to bait his zair, PS it, and then depending on how far away he is, Usmash, Fsmash, or stutter-step Fsmash him. Just something that has worked for me in the past.

 

[smashmanx7]

Is there any way to successfully edgeguard Zelda /sheik. Cause I've tried fireballs ,cape, fludd and they always get back on

 

[Fire!]

Hold on to the ledge to force them to land on stage. Then you can punish their landing.

Oh and be careful not get stage spiked.

 

[Coolwhip]

or try cape stalling the ledge like this

That way, you can regain your invincibility frames.

With the fireballs....you just gotta learn how to aim them while edge guarding....like shooting a basketball into a rim/hoop.

 

[iMichael]

Fireball(s) - Nair (sex kick) - Uair or Bair depending on the position because most people can't tech in Brawl. This is what I do against Sheik.

 

[steep]

Also if they are at mid-high percent but you aren't sure if you can kill them ftilt when they are trying to recover can put them in a bad position and let you have an easier time for gimps.

EDIT: Also, if Zelda likes to spam din's fire you can always go for the hilarious fludd-pushing-them-off-the-stage gimp. Ha Ha

 

[Coolwhip]

Also, if Zelda likes to spam din's fire you can always go for the hilarious fludd-pushing-them-off-the-stage gimp. Ha Ha

How to play mario: F.L.U.D.D KO <--For a better understanding...(-_^)b

 

[steep]

Thanks for that Coolwhip. WHY WEREN'T YOU AT THE TOURNEY IN GLEN ELLYN YESTERDAY? Xero and I drove 4 hours to get there! I'm sure it's less than an hour from you, since it was in a suburb of Chicago!

 

[Coolwhip]

I don't live in chicago anymore. I come back to visit every winter tho....

 

[steep]

Where are you now?

 

[Coolwhip]

Where are you now?

Alabama....

 

[gothrax]

Say... when i use a ftilt, and then use another move at a certain few ending frames in the tilts anim, for some reason i get a momentum shift backward?

Does this have a name?, can i use it in anyway?, does this happen to all characters?...

Has this question been asked before? ~_-

 

[DtJ XeroXen]

I'm not sure what the name is, but it's really inconsistent and hard to time so it was deemed generally useless for us. It happens with many characters though, especially with like Pikachu's dtilt or something.

It was asked a long time ago (like 2ish years by me), so it's not a bad question by any means.

 

[BSP]

It's happened to me too

No idea on how to control it though

 

[DtJ XeroXen]

I'm pretty sure it's a timing thing, it happens to me all the time, but it's weird to try to time. Aww yeah.

 

[gothrax]

... guhh .... is it possible to turn fludd around in air?
Like if your facing one way, and you press Dspecial+slight backward tilting, while falling does this turn it around?

I would normally test it myself but I'm kinda stuck at the moment.

 

[BSP]

I don't think you can reverse fludd in the air

 

[DtJ XeroXen]

I don't think it's possible.

 

[Coolwhip]

I agree with BSP & xero....

 

[Famous]

Wave-bounce FLUDD in midair is possible

 

[steep]

What Famous said ^ Just neutral b-reverse or wave bounce fireball and then fludd. Wavebouncing is better anyway because if gives you a little momentum before using fludd. Also, I have been occasionally using fludd as a means to keep ledge guarders at bay. Sometimes it can be a decent mix-up option for trying to get back to the stage. I even soft stage spiked my roommate and then footstooled him out of it one time. lol But that was a freak of nature kind of thing.

 

[Coolwhip]

Do anyone here know what stage(s) to take snake on that would benefit mario?

If i can pull off a Wave-bounce FLUDD in midair, then i can do anything. XP

 

[steep]

I like to take Snake to FD, YI, or even Lylat sometimes.

Reasons:

FD gives Snake less options as far as setting up the stage and zoning you out. You can counter-camp Snake with reverse cape and fludd, and fireballs. Plus it doesn't have a super-low ceiling so you can theoretically live a little longer.

YI can mess with some of his grenade throws and the shifting platform can make his c4 game a little less reliable for trying to zone you out. Also if he is close to the side of the stage then he can't c4 recover because it would stick to the side, although that is really unpredictable and not a good reason to pick it by itself.

Lylat has a lot of the same slanted stage attributes that I like YI's for. Plus, if the Snake has to c4 tech to recover the slant of the stage can make it more difficult for them to time it. The slant can help you with fireball camping too, while it can mess with his grenades.

That is just my experience. I like FD the best really. Idk maybe some of my reasons don't hold true for other Mario Mains.

 

[DtJ XeroXen]

I like Lylat but that's just my favorite stage ever.

 

[mars16]

Yea I like Lylat 2

I'd take him there

 

[TMario]

Just a random thought... so you know how Mario can get that jab-lock, right? What if, in teams or something, Mario FLUDDs after that first bounce in the lock? Would that work? Is that something? Im just thinking of stuff, Idk the reality of it.

 

[steep]

Once they are off stage they wouldn't be locked in the position they are in or anything I don't think. They would theoretically be able to jump out of it. Idk for sure though. It's an interesting thought. I just don't know, even if it did work, if it would have any practical application.

 

[smashmanx7]

Alright im not sure if this was possible or a freak of nature but i once caped samus off the stage in battlefield she did her upb then i just kept capping her from one side to another with a combination of a whole bunch of short hops then fludd. Have tou all ever experienced this or was that juat a random occurence

 

[Coolwhip]

Sound really random, if you ask me.

 

[steep]

With Samus being so floaty, it seems more likely to be possible but the samus would have to be pretty high off the ground which wouldn't reliably happen. Interesting though. Seems very situational.

 

[DtJ XeroXen]

Thinking about that situation gives me an idea I want to try out, which I will next time I play this game.

 

[tru0067]

Hello

I main Wolf and use Mario as a secondary, I need some tips about off-stage chasing. I am never able to recover afterwards.

 

[Fire!]

I'm guessing since you main Wolf, you don't have many chances to use angled projectiles. Try throwing Fireballs before you chase. That should make predicting their recovery easier so you won't have to go too far off stage.

 

[tru0067]

Thanks

Also what recovery moves can be turned around by cape

Can they all or do some hit you before the cape is in range

 

[DtJ XeroXen]

Cape reverses the direction of any momentum, so technically any "recovery" move can be turned around by cape. However, it's pretty useless to do on some of them. For instance, on Sonic, Snake, and G&W caping their recovery allows them to use their recovery again. And caping peach's up-b generally gives her enough vertical height to allow her to recover anyway. I'm sure there's a few more examples, but yeah. Just experiment and see what works.

 

[tru0067]

Ok

It works best on recoveries that go in a straight line though like falco or Lucas

 

[DtJ XeroXen]

It works well on pretty much every recovery except the ones I listed, for various reasons. It doesn't even have to travel in a "straight line", due to some of the nuances of cape.