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The point isnt that Roller tires are bad (theyre amazing) but more that combo is literally taking the least possible advantage on said stats while on top of wasting so many points isnt giving you anything fantastic. 3 Speed? 4 Accel? Sure it has some good stats in other areas, but you'd be a MILLION times better off just by switching the body to get better stats and actually make full use of those Roller stats.
Sadly, there aren't very many combo options for the heavyweights if they want 4/6 acceleration. You're stuck with either the inside drifting bikes, the Biddybuggy, the Landship, and the Mr. Scooty.

You'd have to go to the middleweight category to increase your combo options for achieving 4/6 acceleration, and as such, this will take a topple on the speed stat.

Anyway, one way or another, you are more than likely going to end up having acceleration points that are wasted, especially if you prefer to use the inside drifting bikes a lot.

Sometimes I just wonder why the acceleration tier system came back, because it's just completely stupid to see 4.75 accelerate at the same rate as 4, when there should clearly be a difference between the two values. But knowing Nintendo, this will likely never be fixed up.
 

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Sadly, there aren't very many combo options for the heavyweights if they want 4/6 acceleration. You're stuck with either the inside drifting bikes, the Biddybuggy, the Landship, and the Mr. Scooty.

You'd have to go to the middleweight category to increase your combo options for achieving 4/6 acceleration, and as such, this will take a topple on the speed stat.

Anyway, one way or another, you are more than likely going to end up having acceleration points that are wasted, especially if you prefer to use the inside drifting bikes a lot.

Sometimes I just wonder why the acceleration tier system came back, because it's just completely stupid to see 4.75 accelerate at the same rate as 4, when there should clearly be a difference between the two values. But knowing Nintendo, this will likely never be fixed up.
In this situation its almost 100% of the time better to just prioritize Speed and deal with the slightly below preferred Accel.
 
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I only ever had the chance to play each track maybe twice since my friend got it. Has there been any OP combinations discovered at all? From what I could tell it seems like acceleration is pretty pointless except for top speed as usual. Plus, hover seems to give inside bikes more like a double dash drifting instead of the Wii inside bike drift.
 

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I only ever had the chance to play each track maybe twice since my friend got it. Has there been any OP combinations discovered at all? From what I could tell it seems like acceleration is pretty pointless except for top speed as usual. Plus, hover seems to give inside bikes more like a double dash drifting instead of the Wii inside bike drift.
Don't know if it's especially OP but Rosalina players on the Sports Bike are obnoxiously common. Not sure about what wheels and glider they use though. But if everyone is using that bike, there has to be reason for it.
 
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I would think some of it is purely because of popularity of the bike itself and her as a character.

Otherwise, I am not really certain which characteristics of attributes should take up my attention.
-If you never get hit, then acceleration does not mean much.
-If you can avoid being rammed into by another person as well, then weight does not matter either. Unless something about the terrain like air or anit-gravity takes into account weight.
-Tighter turns generally means less distance to cover and overall faster completion.
-Higher speed means you go just go faster and is always good as well.
-Traction I suppose goes into keeping your turns tight rather than slipping and going into a long curve.
-Not sure how important mini boosting would be.

I guess something to maximize speed, handling, and traction. Everything else is a nice bonus if it is a high stat.
 

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In this situation its almost 100% of the time better to just prioritize Speed and deal with the slightly below preferred Accel.
Not really something that I'd risk doing in the long run, especially if the handling differences are noticeable. There are actually some players who don't even care about the acceleration tiers, and just choose their combos by preference.

For one example, there's at least one player at Mariokartwii.com who uses Larry with the Sport Bike + Slick + MKTV Parafoil combo (3.75/6 acceleration), even though it wouldn't accelerate any better than if Larry was paired with the Standard Bike instead. The main culprit is that the Sport Bike can inside drift, while the Standard Bike is an outside drifter.

Similarly, I did run into a 7500+ VR racer who used Larry, and his combo was the Jet Bike + Slick + Cloud Glider.
 

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I would think some of it is purely because of popularity of the bike itself and her as a character.

Otherwise, I am not really certain which characteristics of attributes should take up my attention.
-If you never get hit, then acceleration does not mean much.
-If you can avoid being rammed into by another person as well, then weight does not matter either. Unless something about the terrain like air or anit-gravity takes into account weight.
-Tighter turns generally means less distance to cover and overall faster completion.
-Higher speed means you go just go faster and is always good as well.
-Traction I suppose goes into keeping your turns tight rather than slipping and going into a long curve.
-Not sure how important mini boosting would be.

I guess something to maximize speed, handling, and traction. Everything else is a nice bonus if it is a high stat.
It's still odd that everyone uses that very specific pair though. I love Rosalina and know she is popular, but as a character, I don't think she's "most commonly used character online" popular. And I doubt she's the most popular of the Cruiserweights because DK hails from his very own expansive franchise. So if everyone uses her, there has to be a good reason for it.

I did do a time trial comparison on MK Stadium and my Rosalina/Gold Kart/Cyber Slicks/Bowser Kite combo beat the Sports Bike combo I used, and did have a lower speed stat.

When it comes to online play, I feel like there is no best combo. If you specialise in speed, your acceleration suffers, and vice versa, and same goes with other stats. The item system in this game is too all over the place for skill to consistently net you wins.
 
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It's still odd that everyone uses that very specific pair though. I love Rosalina and know she is popular, but as a character, I don't think she's "most commonly used character online" popular. And I doubt she's the most popular of the Cruiserweights because DK hails from his very own expansive franchise. So if everyone uses her, there has to be a good reason for it.

I did do a time trial comparison on MK Stadium and my Rosalina/Gold Kart/Cyber Slicks/Bowser Kite combo beat the Sports Bike combo I used, and did have a lower speed stat.

When it comes to online play, I feel like there is no best combo. If you specialise in speed, your acceleration suffers, and vice versa, and same goes with other stats. The item system in this game is too all over the place for skill to consistently net you wins.
Maybe she really is just that popular. Comparing the same vehicle combo with the other cruiser weights, they all seem to preform the exact same. (Though DK did seem to have worse traction than the others, but maybe that's just me)
 
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Or, maybe nobody cares about the character...they all just like the space booty and choose her over other cruiserweights because of that. :p
 

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I view it as more of a nightgown than a dress.

I can't resist the gown or the skin tight suit though.

I can't resist Rosalina in general and that is my problemo. ._.
 

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Or, maybe nobody cares about the character...they all just like the space booty and choose her over other cruiserweights because of that. :p
I actually made a video out of a replay I had of Rosalina where I slowed the footage down after she did her horizontal spin trick, rewound to the part when she gets out of her seat, and reeled back and forth as she gets up and down. It looks like she;s doing a little booty jig. All to the tune of Miss New Booty. >;3

As for potentially powerful character-vehicle combos, Luigi with the Mach 8 and Azure Roller got a lot more speed than I anticipated. Think the accel stat is approaching the speed cap a bit, but I would have to double check.

Oh, and I'm totes up for some games or tourneys later! Just holler and maybe we could do some worldwide races or something. ;)
 

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I have a replay I uploaded to YouTube (and posted here before) where the game gave me an extreme close-up of Rosalina's booty while in her biker outfit. In the same video, the game also gave me an extreme close up of her lovely face, as well as Waluigi's beautiful mug. :p

I recall the Mach 8 going well with all of the baby characters, decent speed and great handling and acceleration ends up making them extremely nimble.
 

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I hope not either! I'll be able to play for like half an hour, my nnid is actually

nintend64

and not the "ninten64" as seen in my profile. I'm getting on now!!
 

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While I was doing Time Trails, I happened to notice a funny little detail. Remember in Super Mario Bros. 3, where the Koopalings were in different worlds with different themes? Some of the staff ghosts reference SMB3.

The ghost in Dolphin Shoals is Wendy (Water), Sherbet Land has Lemmy (Ice), Bone-Dry Dunes has Morton (Desert), and Pirhana Plant Slide has Ludwig (Pipe). Just a neat little Easter Egg.
 
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Rosalina won Mario Kart. She's the queen, and Luigi gets what was coming to him:

 
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I honestly would probably have never noticed that and I am a HUGE fan of Super Mario Bros. 3
While I was doing Time Trails, I happened to notice a funny little detail. Remember in Super Mario Bros. 3, where the Koopalings were in different worlds with different themes? Some of the staff ghosts reference SMB3.

The ghost in Dolphin Shoals is Wendy (Water), Sherbet Land has Lemmy (Ice), Bone-Dry Dunes has Morton (Desert), and Pirhana Plant Slide has Ludwig (Pipe). Just a neat little Easter Egg.
 

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I'll be here waiting for the inevitable rebuttal with Luigi giving Rosalina a death stare.
I saw some people in the comments who were legitimately angered by this. :p

Maybe this could be seen as basis for shipping LuigixRosalina - the two terrors of the road! :V
 
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I saw some people in the comments who were legitimately angered by this. :p

Maybe this could be seen as basis for shipping LuigixRosalina - the two terrors of the road! :V
I don't see why people are getting satly, the meme is all in good fun anyway (you can't take Luigi staring down Toadette to "Riding Dirty" seriously in any possible way)
 

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The reason I became so obsessed with the Luigi Death Stare was BECAUSE it was so ridiculous. :p

It's helped by the fact that you can use it as the basis for a bunch of comically dark head canons!
 

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The biker outfit is fine since it's done for censory purposes and suits her tall body more than Peach and Daisy. Plus, I head canon the Rosalina would be a tinkerer, kinda like Tails from Sonic.

Unrelated, but this is too good:

 

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The biker outfit is fine since it's done for censory purposes and suits her tall body more than Peach and Daisy. Plus, I head canon the Rosalina would be a tinkerer, kinda like Tails from Sonic.

Unrelated, but this is too good:

That was great. I love these guys' channel :)

Also: Green Mario. Kids are so adorable
 
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Talking with some speed runners... Morton, Bowser, and Wario are the best of the best for having the fastest run times in any course. There are specific car combo's however.

Karts as of now are presumably the best vehicles for ALL tracks because of fire hopping.

Yoshi has a niche placement in Shebert Land.

Of course, if you get hit using a heavyweight early on, it's pretty much done for you.
 

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The replay/clutch I was talking about. First the official/crappy MKTV version:


Slow-mo for detail/effect (crappy cell phone camera):


And last but not least, my friend's rage being reflected by his character's death stare:

 
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Can't the ATVs and outside drifting bikes do this too? I know that the inside drifting bikes are out of the question.
Yeah, they can. But there are very specific combo's that are deemed the best and they're all karts.
 
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I really want more Quads as DLC. There are not enough of them.

They are my favourite body type aesthetically, especially the Standard one, but it's hard to make effective combos for them.
 

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Has anyone else noticed that the highlight for Rosalina's eye irises aren't present whenever she's looking right? This pretty much means that the eye highlight is part of the eye iris texture.




Yeah, they can. But there are very specific combo's that are deemed the best and they're all karts.
Well, there aren't any bikes or ATVs that boost speed, and we all pretty much know what stat is important for Time Trials. Traction seems to be a very redundant stat on most occasions anyway.
 
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I'm not sure what you mean by the eye iris thing. What do you mean by her having a highlight?
 

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Can we stop talking about Rosalina like shes a good character please? Like, I ignored it the first 12 pages, but now this is just ridiculous. Another topic that actually has meaning please.
 

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Can we stop talking about Rosalina like shes a good character please? Like, I ignored it the first 12 pages, but now this is just ridiculous. Another topic that actually has meaning please.
I'm asking M&S Guy about an apparent graphical hiccup in the game. I'm allowed to do that.

Also, people are perfectly entitled to talk about their favourite Mario Kart characters in the General Mario Kart topic, some people were talking about favourite Koopalings and such before, now some just happen to have brought up Rosalina momentarily, it's hardly a crime, and it most certainly has not been the primary topic for 12 pages, if at all.
 
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