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I found that it starts to work around 80% and works until 120% (for me anyway), but if you just know how the angle of the spike works, you don't have to be right up on the edge even, just downthrow and immediately fullhop and buffer F-air while doing it, and you can 90% of the time catch them while they're still in hitstun for the spike. Almost feels like a true combo, it's unreal.
I've heard coming from Nakat that Mario is a worse matchup for Fox, and I've seen his fox against both Ally and Anti, so I'm covinced it's in our favor. I've played the matchup myself and haven't had many problems with it. The fact that Fox is a fast-falling char gives us a lot more out of grabs and we have better OoS options. Usmash for recovering foxes takes away side B as an option pretty much so theyre better off recovering low, which they should. In which case there are ways to edge guard Firefox so off stage against fox is good for us. As for Ryu.....i think it's pretty do able but very annoying. Not saying Mario wins the matchup but from what I gather it's possible
Also doc's fair breaks shields in two hits
style option confirmed
Thing is, a good Fox in my opinion will make it hard to abuse out of shield options against him when he gets better at converting his throws into juggles that Mario doesn't really have a lot of options to avoid. When a Fox has enough control to do that, it's very hard to outplay him in neutral as far as I'm concerned.
This is all assuming the Fox is good at the matchup though, along with the Ganon matchup. Realistically, if you know what you're doing you can win a matchup (usually). If the fox or Ganon is winning, then they're well versed in the matchup. It's not always who wins the matchup who actually wins. Not saying fox loses by a lot, I think it's actually pretty close but just by playing the matchup enough I see it much more favorable for Mario
HeroMystic
same tho
Looks like some serious old for glory stuff there XD
I don't think there is any Mario Discord group, but there is Skype group.
Do you have Discord account? If so can you add me to Smashboards Ike Discord group if there are any?
Gladly. What's your Discord name?
mario123007, my username.
Whoa, your girlfriend nearly miss the ledge after that Up air, nice job of utilize the FLUDD in team battle, this can't be done without friendly fire.
Indeed but in competitive team battles, friendly fire is usually on.
And it seems that KOing your opponent counts one SD.
This is why I like dubs so much lol nice job! Fludd really does have some interesting uses in doubles especially
Nice work on that trick with your partner. The fludd does come handy in teams.
Awesome! Thanks so much
I would like Dair's final hit to be sped up so that no one can interrupt it, but I don't think Mario is receiving any changes. I think he's a solid benchmark for a good character in smash 4 right now.
