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Mario Boards: General Discussion

Matt07

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XeroXen, you learn much much more from losing matches. Winning matches you learn...little or nothing because you won. What I'm trying to say is all these losses you have right now will change, pretty soon, you'll know most match-up's in the back of your head, know what's right/what's not.

Dropping/Learning a new character your just repeating the process all over again :(. Marios is capable of handling most match-up's (lol Dedede infinite) he's a jack of all trades, which in my opinion makes him a very versatile character. Just gotta know what to use, and when.
 

DtJ XeroXen

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XeroXen, you learn much much more from losing matches. Winning matches you learn...little or nothing because you won. What I'm trying to say is all these losses you have right now will change, pretty soon, you'll know most match-up's in the back of your head, know what's right/what's not.

Dropping/Learning a new character your just repeating the process all over again :(. Marios is capable of handling most match-up's (lol Dedede infinite) he's a jack of all trades, which in my opinion makes him a very versatile character. Just gotta know what to use, and when.
Um, I already know everything about Mario but thanks anyway. (Except for the Falco matchup)

Just posting this before I'm banned. (Dunno if it's gonna happen but just in case.)
 

fromundaman

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Heh, I dunno... FireMario and 1der have both showed me things you don't use (one through his guide, and one in person), though maybe you know of them and don't use them anyway? *shrugs*


Also, I agree, losing matches does teach you a lot, but winning matches does too. Also, I personally find that every time I pick up a new char, it helps out my tourny characters too (playing a new character means a new playstyle, which can lead to breaking some habits, gaining some others).

Anyway, that's just me.
 

Inferno3044

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Well actually, I was thinking of picking up another character but unlike Xero, chances are that guy will be an alt. I have no idea who. Also, Luigi is an alt to me, but I'm thinking of using him more for MU's where he can do significantly better than Mario, mainly D3 because he is the only character I have faced in tourney that I do significantly better than with Mario. I plan to sticking with Mario as a main. I just plan to work on my Luigi and maybe pick up someone for fun.
 

Dark.Pch

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I can't, I was robbed at this indepentent living program I am in when I was not home. And alot of my stuff was taken. my wii was one of them.
 

DtJ XeroXen

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Heh, I dunno... FireMario and 1der have both showed me things you don't use (one through his guide, and one in person), though maybe you know of them and don't use them anyway? *shrugs*


Also, I agree, losing matches does teach you a lot, but winning matches does too. Also, I personally find that every time I pick up a new char, it helps out my tourny characters too (playing a new character means a new playstyle, which can lead to breaking some habits, gaining some others).

Anyway, that's just me.
Tbh, I'm not considering dropping him as a character because I'm bad with him, or that I'm tired of not winning. (I hardly have problems with winning nowadays anyway.) But I'm getting tired of Mario as a character, I find his playstyle generally boring and Pikachu is a nice refresher to why I like this game. Also, to let it be known my Mario is much much better than the last time you played me, but I don't really care about that. (But my Pikachu isn't very good atm so I'll probably stay mostly Mario for the time being, which could be a while... I don't play this game much.)

Anyways, just trying to explain all this before I'm possibly banned.

I also agree that picking up new characters adds new life to your former ones. Pikachu has made my Mario a little better, but idk, I don't play Mario much anymore.
 

DtJ XeroXen

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I can't, I was robbed at this indepentent living program I am in when I was not home. And alot of my stuff was taken. my wii was one of them.
I wanna know who would steal a Wii, if mine weren't hacked to oblivion I would throw it out the window. (Or mail it to Matador, he seems to need one.) Being hacked is the only reason I even see a point in owning this piece of crap anymore, that and the internet channel. (Gotta love my internet channel.)
 

fromundaman

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Tbh, I'm not considering dropping him as a character because I'm bad with him, or that I'm tired of not winning. (I hardly have problems with winning nowadays anyway.) But I'm getting tired of Mario as a character, I find his playstyle generally boring and Pikachu is a nice refresher to why I like this game. Also, to let it be known my Mario is much much better than the last time you played me, but I don't really care about that. (But my Pikachu isn't very good atm so I'll probably stay mostly Mario for the time being, which could be a while... I don't play this game much.)

Anyways, just trying to explain all this before I'm possibly banned.

I also agree that picking up new characters adds new life to your former ones. Pikachu has made my Mario a little better, but idk, I don't play Mario much anymore.
Oh hehe. Well, I completely understand your reasoning then. That's exactly why I changed from MK to Kirby (To possibly Mario now XD ).

Also, I think our region in general has gotten better. I wasn't really trying to doubt your skill though. It was more of a "there's always more to learn/improve on" thing.

Also, I doubt you would be banned for not playing Mario :p There's a bunch of people on these forums/social threads who don't even play this game anymore.
 

DtJ XeroXen

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Oh hehe. Well, I completely understand your reasoning then. That's exactly why I changed from MK to Kirby (To possibly Mario now XD ).

Also, I think our region in general has gotten better. I wasn't really trying to doubt your skill though. It was more of a "there's always more to learn/improve on" thing.

Also, I doubt you would be banned for not playing Mario :p There's a bunch of people on these forums/social threads who don't even play this game anymore.
The banned thing wasn't about maining Mario, it was ACTUALLY about another complicated thing that I don't feel like explaining right now. (Basically, my friend Javix was trolling on a computer I had used so the mods want me banned -_-', it wasn't even my computer.)

But yeah I'm totally working on a new playstyle for Mario that might prove better and more fun that my old defensive playstyle.
 

Matador

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I can't, I was robbed at this indepentent living program I am in when I was not home. And alot of my stuff was taken. my wii was one of them.
-_-

People just piss me off sometimes. I remember you mentioning the living situation in one of your blogs. Hopefully nothing too valuable was taken aside from the Wii?
 

A2ZOMG

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Instead of giving a long rant about it, I'm just going to point out the obvious.

Mario is underrated guys.

Just look at his options and analyze them carefully down to the last frame and pixel. Seriously...Mario does have what it takes to be competitive. He only lacks power on his movepool.

Mario isn't the only character like this (if people are curious, I'll tell people who I think is viable, but underpowered), but I'm just giving you my personal insight that he's a character that really is decent.

And this is why I like Balanced Brawl so much. Balanced Brawl is obvious proof that Mario was always a good character that just needed a little extra to be a threat. Just look at him in BBrawl. It's blatantly obvious he's a top tier threat in that game.
 

JUDGE

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^lol really??
didn't know that^^

@A2 of course^^
mario absolutly kick *** that's why i main him^^
 

hippiedude92

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mgd needs more hippie learning to aggressive camping mario sons.

so i just got back from my friend m4ge's house, doing THE MOST INTENSIVE MMS IN MANKIND CAN HAVE. 25 cent MMs that l win but goes to double or nothing which results me losing which results me NOT WINNING ANY CASH OMG.

but like l learnt alot because Jash (pro TL total inspiration and gave me good advice <3) and some choking problem's im trying to fix. i learnt that, mario in aggressive to camping to aggressive camping mode is just so much ****.

i got vids too and y'all know how i hate having vids of me just in friendlies but now i have legit matchs that is actually critiqueable kk kewl ily all

edit: Th3 M4d M4ge (8:43:09 AM): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn-EYcc8g_M
Th3 M4d M4ge (8:43:16 AM): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-fuy2cOxAM
Th3 M4d M4ge (8:43:23 AM): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1QKoCepGSo
Th3 M4d M4ge (8:43:34 AM): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K95y1wTM8MY
Th3 M4d M4ge (8:43:41 AM): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFF-1MXIac4
Th3 M4d M4ge (8:43:48 AM): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPHJbSZ10Ns
hippiedudeCM (8:44:57 AM): wow only 6 lol

my mario is like, 4th vid, the first 3 is my marth. so heres my mario under pressure critique sons

edit: dont bother ****ing saying negative comments saying "mario suxs, link suxs, u suxs, you coulda had that etc etc" we know we both suck, we suck in underpressure, that's why we're ****ing training at 25 cents mm, so instead of that ****, ****ing say something productive like " work on more upbs or more reading etc"
 

M4ge

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I said Screen Name. Not SWF name lol.
Psh Link sucks. Watch the first match.
 

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There's an announcement you can check out, guys.
 

M4ge

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True. But only Link can get gimped by every character in the game including himself fairly easily.
 

fromundaman

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Way too many missed capes, grounded capes, and AD/Spotdodge too much. I also suggest more Dsmash, as well as more Dthrow/Fthrow and less Bthrow.
Also, UpB is awesome as a "**** yo [insert move here]" attack.

Good Mario though.
 

DtJ XeroXen

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I'll be repping Mario at the upcoming Midwest circuit, I'm gonna be practicing all I can for the next few weeks! I'll do my best to place high, but I might pull out Pikachu for D3 and others.

We all need to place higher!
 
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