Majoras Mask Mafia! DGames' Longest Game Ends - Who Won?!?!?!?

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

While I really wanna be cleared if, key word if, he flips town a ML is a no go at this point.

This is why we need to look over what we got before we make a decision like that.

 

[Raziek]

A ML won't necessarily condemn us, because it would mean he isn't the abductor, so T-Block remains out of the game, and if Inferno jails again correctly (on Acro) we should be safe. Unless Inferno is poisoned and dies before his block, but I believe deaths are last on the list in NAR.

 

[Raziek]

Let me do some Math....

Assuming 1 indy, one maf, 5 town left.

Nabe lynched. Flips Town. 4 Town left.
NK blocked by Inferno, poison death.
3 town, 1 indy, 1 maf. Still safe.

Nabe lynched. Flips Town. 4 Town left.
NK blocked, abductor dies by poison, T-Block returns.
4 Town, 2 Maf, still good.

Nabe lynched. Flips Town. 4 Town left.
NK NOT blocked, two Town deaths.
2 town, 1 maf, 1 Indy Kingmaker scenario.

Nabe lynched. Flips Town. 4 Town left.
NK NOT blocked, Abductor dies, Town dies.
3 Town, 2 maf. Still good.

If Nabe flips scum I'm 99% sure we're good in all cases.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Worst case scenario, it can screw us over with no chance of coming back.

That alone makes it warranted to look over the roaster a second time.

Like I'm all abored lynching Acro or Nabe, but I wanna make sure no one, specifically Kuzi, isn't pulling wool over my eyes with this.

What displeases me more is how side lined some people are being, I'm not going to dare lynch Inferno at this point, if the poisoner went off he targetted him more than anyone else. If he is alive tomorrow and someone else dies of poison, I'm looking straight at him.

I'm looking at this atm,

Town:
Dabuz
Raziek
Red Ryu

Null: - because I wanna make sure of their alignment and depending what happens tomorrow and with the flip can change me reads on them.
Inferno
Kuzi

Scum:
Nabe
Acro

~

If it's clear we're done with the day I'm fine with it, since I only wanted Raziek to prove himself instead of using it for extra time to talk, however I wanna make sure the course of action.

Jail acro and lynching Nabe is correct.

The Jail Acro is the main thing I'm wondering if it is a good idea. If he is a poisoner, he won't get a kill tonight and we got confirmed scum. Though if he isn't, which there is a slight possibility, then poison will still get through, doesn't clear him of not being scum but it means on of Inferno or Kuzi is the poisoner, assuming we lynch Nabe.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

If we lynch scum we're all good no matter what.

 

[Inferno3044]

Heads up raz. You didn't account for the fact that the poison is blocked, but if I blocked it, we are in a better situation.

 

[Raziek]

You mean if Acrostic was the poisoner? That wouldn't make sense, there would've still been a second NK in that case, right?

 

[Raziek]

If Acrostic is the poisoner that means last night's poison went off and the last mafia should have had their NK clear to use, unless they tried to NK Acrostic.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I wanna tally.

Who is for the Jail Acro and lynch Nabe plan?

Yes: 0
No: 0
not sure: 1 (Red Ryu)

I wanna reread this day and yesterday before I put my final vote down for this.

 

[Raziek]

I am for that plan, quite obviously.

Kuz likely is too, given the location of his vote.

 

[th3kuzinator]

I'm definitely for that plan.

Raziek your numbers could all be off on the case that Inferno could already be dead. Someone was poisoned last Night (most likely, unless inferno blocked both kills) and it is most likely inferno since he flat out claimed jailer yesterDay.

Plus, though I know this isn't the best wine, scum could have no killed toDay expecting you to jail someone of suspect (like Acrostic) to get that ML off instead of Nabe. All signs both from setup and from play point to NabeScum.

Also, my alignment won't be a problem. Once Nabe flips scum I'll probably be NKd because I'm too dangerous to have around.

We need to lynch Nabe.

 

[Raziek]

Ah right, I forgot to account for that. Well, in that case, that's still one death with no blocked NK, so we're only ****ed if the Abductor dies and Nabe is Town.

1 maf, 1 Indy, 5 town

Nabe lynched, Flips Town. 4 Town left.
Inferno dies to Poison, regular NK on Town.
2 Town, 1 maf, 1 Indy kingmaker... would screw us.

Or wait, no, wouldn't Inferno still gets his protect off, making it 3v1v1 or 3v2?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Yes: 2 (Raziek, th3kuzinator)
No: 0
not sure: 1 (Red Ryu)

 

[th3kuzinator]

I'm going to be honest as I've said before. Almost every scenario involving a ML today, barring very unlikely circumstances, will **** us over.

Good thing Nabe isn't flipping town.

 

[Inferno3044]

You mean if Acrostic was the poisoner? That wouldn't make sense, there would've still been a second NK in that case, right?

No. That would mean today not only did I block his NK but also his poison attempt. Basically if nobody dies of poison tomorrow acro is confirmed poisoner (which he probably is)

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I don't know which faction I want to lose more, but here's a shot in the arm.

I'm the abductor. I'm reactive; I abduct players who target me, hence the cop claim. Which means that T-block targeted me Night 1, very likely with the nightkill. In retrospect, a stupid pull for me to make, but I didn't anticipate Xastrn flipping scum. Anyway.

When I said yesterDay and toDay that my lynch was a foregone conclusion, I meant it because it was obviously the case. So do not let Kuz off the hook for anything I've asked of him. This wasn't some kind of massive AtE ploy to keep myself alive; I'm legitimately asking for people to examine him, and the lack of response to 90% of my posts suggests to me that no one has paid me any mind. Take a look at Ryu as well, and I strongly recommend checking out my read list from yesterDay, which I'm sure no one read the first time.

Have a good endgame. I'm done. See you in post.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Finally ****ing told you he was scum.

 

[Raziek]

ERLP.

Can we lynch and be done with this day?

 

[th3kuzinator]

Man I feel like the biggest idiot for changing to Werekill yesterDay.

Had him pinned and I let him go.

 

[Raziek]

We didn't have much of a choice given the circumstance. We've got him now, that's what matters. T-Block will return to the game, I assume?

 

[th3kuzinator]

I don't like this actually. Nabe would never have given up like this unless he had something to gain.

 

[Raziek]

Ok, now you're just being ridiculous. Take off the tinfoil hat and lynch the scum in front of you.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

p.s. don't let Kuz take credit for "catching" me -- this is all extensively laid out in my posts to him.

This interplay between Kuz/Raz is extremely suspicious as well.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Why the mood switch Raziek?

 

[Raziek]

What mood switch? Nabe just CLAIMED scum, you've been after him ALL game, why would you suddenly put on the tinfoil hat just because he's accepting the inevitable?

 

[th3kuzinator]

Considering the possibility of Nabe being linked to someone else.

lol this looks so much like SvS its ridiculousß. Raziek stop reacting so weirdly.

 

[th3kuzinator]

I'm not saying we shouldn't lynch him, I'm just saying we should think about numbers here because now that we know he's reactive we could be in a bad situation.

 

[th3kuzinator]

p.s. don't let Kuz take credit for "catching" me -- this is all extensively laid out in my posts to him.

This interplay between Kuz/Raz is extremely suspicious as well.

But I did catch you and I am town so that's all the matters.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Don't QL him before we talk about it.

 

[Raziek]

Explain. Do you suspect he's reactive to a lynch somehow? What could go wrong here?

1 Indy (Nabe), 1 Maf, 5 Town.

Nabe lynched. Indy. 5 Town 1 Maf.

T-Block returns. 5 Town 2 Maf.

Poison goes through. NK. 3 Town 2 maf.

Lynch T-Block. NK goes through. 2 Town 1 Maf.

Lylo.

Even in worst case with no blocked NKs, we're still safe.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Lynch T-Block. NK goes through. 2 Town 1 Maf.

Lynch T-Block, poison and NK go through. We're ****ed.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

This interplay between Kuz/Raz is extremely suspicious as well.

I've noticed this for the last two days.

I'm 100% supporting a Nabe lynch btw.

 

[Raziek]

But we jailed Acrostic last night, who is quite probably the poisoner. What other route could we possibly take?

 

[th3kuzinator]

RR stop being completely useless.

What I'm saying is, once we lynch Nabe we know T-block is scum and all but we also know hes NOT the poisoner. We may have blocked him but we may not have. We don't know if Inferno is already dead.

IE if we don't pin who the poisoner is soon even if we lynch Nabe we'll be in trouble.

 

[Raziek]

Let's examine the possibilities of what happens if we lynch Acrostic.

Doing Math.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Which led me to think that perhaps Nabe is on like a two man indy team with the poisoner or some **** which is why he's okay with sacrificing himself because he just ran the math and his teammate has an advantage in this situation.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

As hilarious as this all is, town needs to take note of switches in perspective going on all of a sudden which are indicative of maneuvering, rather than genuine reactions to information I provided. This is a group of people who expected me to flip scum. I mean, Kuz caught me, right? So his reaction here (borne out of nothing) is cause for concern.

 

[th3kuzinator]

imo if Nabe was truly on a one man indy team he would have keep going until death. The fact that he's even still posting means he has a stake in this game and he's trying to swing lynches in certain directions after death.

 

[Raziek]

If we lynch Acrostic and he's scum, we lynch T-Block then Nabe and we win.

If we lynch Acrostic and he's Town...

Poison death, NK.

2 Town, 1 Maf, 1 Indy. Kingmaker.

 

[th3kuzinator]

I trust:

Dabuz
Inferno (probably)
Raziek

Nabe is dying

Leaving

RR
Acrostic