Majoras Mask Mafia! DGames' Longest Game Ends - Who Won?!?!?!?

[Raziek]

Because it would be a waste to use it for no reason other than to prove I can do so. Now shut up and stop asking, because I'm NOT going to use it purely on your beck and call, Ryu.

I'm only going to use it if others feel it is warranted as well.

 

[Inferno3044]

Because it would be a waste to use it for no reason other than to prove I can do so. Now shut up and stop asking, because I'm NOT going to use it purely on your beck and call, Ryu.

I'm only going to use it if others feel it is warranted as well.

I agree with this. Remember what happened last time RR?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Because it would be a waste to use it for no reason other than to prove I can do so. Now shut up and stop asking, because I'm NOT going to use it purely on your beck and call, Ryu.

I'm only going to use it if others feel it is warranted as well.

But you said before, it's not that useful.

What does town lose from extra time? Absolutely nothing, in fact they gain from it.

If this is a day like people are saying where we could potentially lose right here from a ML, we need more time.

Which is why I want you to prove it.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

And you skim over the Kuz part, cool.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I agree with this. Remember what happened last time RR?

Halfing and adding time have differences.

Halfing time doesn't help town, adding does.

If he can do this, he should be fully supportive of it.

 

[Raziek]

But you said before, it's not that useful.

What does town lose from extra time? Absolutely nothing, in fact they gain from it.

If this is a day like people are saying where we could potentially lose right here from a ML, we need more time.

Which is why I want you to prove it.

Again, the time is only beneficial if we make USE of it.

And you skim over the Kuz part, cool.

You expect me to respond to a baseless speculation that Kuz and I might be linked?

Halfing and adding time have differences.

Halfing time doesn't help town, adding does.

If he can do this, he should be fully supportive of it.

Again, it only benefits if we make use of the time.

Otherwise, all it does is prove that I COULD do it (and also my race, I suppose), and then I can't do it again.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Like I can't stress enough how fake Nabe looks right now. I've seen townNabe buckle down and do work when in late game. This is not townNabe.

His whimsical posting style is just an attribute to the fake persona he gives himself in dire situations as scum. It ****ing worked yesterDay as you have all seen.

It's fake. He's bull****ting. Nabe is scum.

Gogdammit.

I'm going to dig up all instances of you bringing up his meta, because you lied to me when you said when I quoted it earlier that was the first time you did.

Because you case is,
Set-up speculation.
Meta.

Cool, those do not make a case.

Set-up spec, which in turn is trying to out think the mod I might add, only works when you can prove the likely hood is so low it's near impossible. You cannot do this without a resonable doubt.

Meta? Cool, that only adds to a case to make it look better, that doesn't make it alone.

When responding to him, you call him scum and deflect.

My reads are starting to take a 180 in terms, I'm really starting to ask what are the scummy things done?

Your basing it on out of game play ideas, not in game. This is something I noticed and why my scum read on Nabe is looking bad right now.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Again, the time is only beneficial if we make USE of it.

Assuming we won't is laughable considering the situation we are in.

You expect me to respond to a baseless speculation that Kuz and I might be linked?

Yes.

So is mentioning Abductor first when the game started when D2 began like you did.

Again, it only benefits if we make use of the time.

Otherwise, all it does is prove that I COULD do it (and also my race, I suppose), and then I can't do it again.

So a day in which Kuz says can make us lose the game if we ML, most likely situation I'm going to add, and we shouldn't look over and think of all the possibilities?

Are you kidding me?

I want proof you can do this, because otherwise I think your a scum JoaT.

 

[Raziek]

*sigh*

Let it be known that if we need two days later on, Red Ryu is to blame.

 

[Raziek]

If it wasn't clear enough, I submitted the day action.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I'll take full responsibility for if it happens.

 

[Inferno3044]

So are we not going with the plan of lynch nabe, jail acro?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

We're going to talk about the possibilities first, because I'm not agreeing to that until we do.

I'm really disturbed Kuz and Raziek would want to end the day so soon.

 

[th3kuzinator]

When did I ever say I wanted to end the Day?

That was Nabe.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

True.

Why is jailing Acro the best idea if mafia kills with poison as well/

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

I highly doubt Raziek lied about his ability to extend or cut-down on time. Even if he is able to extend time- an ability which would be pro-town in nature as it allows more time for town to discuss decisions, there is an unclaimed motivator that was able to increase Circus's ability to distribute reports. At this point the lack of someone claiming motivator points to the possibility that it is a scum related ability, despite it having a pro-town function. Therefore pro-town abilities do not correlate to amounting to a town read at this point for me. Now if Raziek did lie about his ability to extend time, then that would be a large scum tell.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

That is why I asked him to extend the time.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

How likely do people think it is that one mafia is left and we're dealing with One Mafia and an Indy?

 

[Inferno3044]

How likely do people think it is that one mafia is left and we're dealing with One Mafia and an Indy?

Are you counting T-Block in this?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Not counting T-Block.

 

[Raziek]

True.

Why is jailing Acro the best idea if mafia kills with poison as well/

Jailing Acro because there was no kill last night for one reason or another.

 

[Raziek]

And haven't we been assuming all along that the poisoner is mad and the indy was the abduction? It has to be, otherwise T-Block got abducted by Town, lmao.

 

[Raziek]

maf*

10typos

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

If the abductor and T-Block are of different factions, then the abductor should have released T-Block to have him attract a lynch. Either that or he doesn't have any control with regards to releasing the people he targets. Either that or he is planning on releasing T-Block later.

 

[Raziek]

The abductor cannot release targets usually. The way that works is they stay abducted until the abductor dies, then return to the game, if at all.

In some cases they'll stay abducted for two full days or something, but it doesn't seem to be the case here.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Jailing Acro because there was no kill last night for one reason or another.

And haven't we been assuming all along that the poisoner is mad and the indy was the abduction? It has to be, otherwise T-Block got abducted by Town, lmao.

Let's put two and two together.

Only people have been dying from poison yes? Randomly there was a night kill mixed with it, jail happens no more night kill. Now can the poisoner kill? We don't know, we're assuming they can't at first til the first poison death.

One possibility I didn't see was the idea of separate mafia factions against one another. 2v2, I think it is possible and could explain why we're getting night kills and poisons on seperate nights.

In either situation, Acro is the likely person to lynch. We didn't get a night kill after he was jailed, I don't believe another faction tried to kill Acro. Mafia + Indy is still very likely, but I wouldn't be surprised with waring factions either.

To me my lynch pool is this.

Acrostic, Nabe, and maybe Kuz this is pending on what I think of lynching Nabe right now.

I don't entirely agree that lynching Nabe off of Meta and Set-up analysis, he has done some AtE I find scummy, which in turn would point to him with the other things brought up. I think when you lynch off set-up analysis it's because it can be said it's pure bull. Two cops in a nine man? 5 power JoaT, a role that sounds like total bull and impossible.

I'm not certain a hider is impossible in this set-up.

Kuz tell me the pros and cons in your own words with the Nabe lynch and the Acro lynch.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Lynching Nabe will yield scum. Lynching Acro will most likely yield scum. There are no cons, really, since we're probably boned either way if we ML. Therefore its best to lynch someone we know will flip scum.

Like Nabe.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

It's the opposite for me actually, I think acro will and nabe is a maybe.

I wanna wait for the mod to also confirm time has been added to the deadline.

 

[X1-12]

You hear the sound of a guitar and strange feeling rushes over you.... It feels like something is affecting the flow of time??

The deadline is changed to November 17th!

 

[X1-12]

Votecount 4.1 - [4/7] - Deadline 17th November

Raziek [0]
th3kuzinator [1] - MOD
Red Ryu [0]
dabuz [0]
Nabe [2] - kuz, Raz
Acrostic [1] - Inferno
Inferno3044 [0]

Not Voting [4] - Acrostic, RR, dabuz, Nabe

 

[Raziek]

Can we put this to bed now? I'm Zora, and extended the deadline.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Vote: Acrostic

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

@Ryu, scum 2v2 could only be the cause of the kill-poisoner confusion if T-block is on Scumteam 2, leaving one of each alive. So there would still be two scum remaining, like we already think there to be. Why would it change the situation?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Can we put this to bed now? I'm Zora, and extended the deadline.

Mkay.

Your off the hook.

@Ryu, scum 2v2 could only be the cause of the kill-poisoner confusion if T-block is on Scumteam 2, leaving one of each alive. So there would still be two scum remaining, like we already think there to be. Why would it change the situation?

One that gets normal kills and another that get poison/abductor kills. Seems creative and fun.

It would change if we're dealing with two mafia against one another. Some connections would be silly in that regard.

A player could be cleared of mafia team 1, but not mafia team 2.

 

[Inferno3044]

Mkay.

Your off the hook.



One that gets normal kills and another that get poison/abductor kills. Seems creative and fun.

It would change if we're dealing with two mafia against one another. Some connections would be silly in that regard.

A player could be cleared of mafia team 1, but not mafia team 2.

How do you explain J claiming poisoner (before a poison was ever flipped) and no NK occuring this past night? I intended my action N3 as a roleblock, not a protect.

 

[Raziek]

Do you see a need to lynch Acro today when we had no NK last night and he was jailed? All we have to do is jail him again and we're fine. Nabe yields us much more immediate information, namely if he actually cleared RR by hiding behind him.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Also wasnT't trying to add more time, just wanted proof of his role. Though it helps to have the added time.

 

[Inferno3044]

Also wasnT't trying to add more time, just wanted proof of his role. Though it helps to have the added time.

Really RR? If the plan is to kill nabe and jail acro then why don't we just do it?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Because I wanna cover all bases and make sure that plan is ok before I agree to it.

Still not certain Jailing Acro is the best idea yet over lynching him and jailing Kuz or someone else.

 

[Raziek]

Again, because a Nabe lynch clears you in addition to giving us Nabe's flip. From there we can easily lynch Acro.