Majoras Mask Mafia! DGames' Longest Game Ends - Who Won?!?!?!?

[Lore]

Raz, I'm going to not even bother responding to that because of tired of throwing around walls and seeing you wriggle your way out of every thing I say by twisting it. You're just better than me by far, and I tip my hat to you.

You're still my top lynch pick for today, though, and I think that you're pure scum.

 

[Lore]

By the way, Raz, you never answered my number one question:

How is your role, barring extending the time, any good for town? While I'm at it, I'll disinclude your bluff about scum having race roles.

 

[Inferno3044]

I'm not "denying" anything. Raz quite clearly appears as a Deku to census, and has the ability to extend deadline. As I said prior, this could be covered via free flavour by any Deku, or the Skull Kid stealing the ocarina, or the Happy Mask Salesman with his masks and organ. Or he could be Link and stil be scum, or he could be Link and be town, and in sum total flavour says nothing about his alignment -- which was directed entirely at Kuz and his seeming focus, hence why I'm confused about you continuing to engage me in a Nabe-Kuz discussion. As for defending Acro... when did I do anything resembling that?

Your other question should be posed to Werekill, seeing how he's the one advocating a Raz lynch.

I feel like your question regarding acro sounds like a reason to not lynch him, hence defending. Answer this then: do you think raziek is scum?

@WK - ill give you the question I asked nabe. Suppose we lynch raziek today. What results do we get from it and where do we go based on how he flips?

 

[Inferno3044]

EBWOP - you are also the one who told raziek to play the song of double time to prove his claim and you're trying to use that against him. wtf is that? You asking raziek to prove it and then trying to swing it to him is the reason we are scrambling. I don't like your play at all right now

 

[Lore]

What.

I'll answer the first question later, but what?

I'm using the existence of the power itself against him, not the fact that he used it. Are you reading at all?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I feel like your question regarding acro sounds like a reason to not lynch him, hence defending.

Then maybe you should check out my earlier post where I lay out a very concrete reason why Acrostic is scummy, or check out any of my posts in the interim where I reiterated again and again that Acrostic is scummy, but not for a supposed scumslip -- that reasoning is faulty. Please read the thread, or equivalently, just smile and nod at me so I know you're paying some amount of attention.

Answer this then: do you think raziek is scum?

Again, this is an issue I've been clear on in multiple posts. I think he's scummy due to play, and I also don't think there's any chance that we'll ever get to lynching him. I suggest that people solve his alignment through PRs over Nights, rather than wasting time in-thread or flatout assuming he's cool on setup.

Look, this is not the time for you to be rethinking your read on me. I'm being lynched toDay. Instead, focus your time on something productive like continuing to question Werekill. Maybe about the points I've raised in my case on him, for example!

 

[Inferno3044]

What.

I'll answer the first question later, but what?

I'm using the existence of the power itself against him, not the fact that he used it. Are you reading at all?

If the power itself is scummy then why did you tell him to use it?

 

[Lore]

If the power itself is scummy then why did you tell him to use it?

To both prove that he had it and to keep him from keeping that power in case he was scum, which I believe is the situation that we're dealing with now.

 

[Lore]

@Nabe: Are you getting the distinct impression that Inferno is not paying attention to some things? I've got that feeling.

 

[Inferno3044]

This is basically what I saw you do:

"Prove your role by shortening the deadline."

"Oh you have the ability shorten the deadline. You must be scum."

As Raziek said, not all anti-town roles are scum. A good example is lovers. Although you can say "oh but they can talk to each other" so can masons except when one mason dies, the other is still alive. Lovers are masons with an anti-town aspect to them. They are still town. Also think for a second WK. If Raziek used his power arbitrarily, especially after saying he has said he has that power that would be the world's most obvious scum slip. Also answer my question about what we would do based on Raziek's flip assuming we lynched him.

@Nabe - I know you said he's scummy but that's not what I asked. I asked if you think he is scum which is a different question that if you think he is scummy.

 

[Raziek]

How is your role, barring extending the time, any good for town? While I'm at it, I'll disinclude your bluff about scum having race roles.

So.... you ask me to explain how my role is good for Town, but I'm not allowed to talk about the two things that make it good for Town?

This is such a loaded question that I don't even know where to begin.

 

[Raziek]

Raz, I'm going to not even bother responding to that because of tired of throwing around walls and seeing you wriggle your way out of every thing I say by twisting it. You're just better than me by far, and I tip my hat to you.

You're still my top lynch pick for today, though, and I think that you're pure scum.

I also find this post hilarious.

"I can't prove your scum, but you're scum."

 

[Raziek]

urgh, you're* I hate making that typo.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Pretty sure townNabe would never say this btw. He'd want as much discussion as possible and correct information to be put on the table after his lynch. He wouldn't want the day ending prematurely with his lynch. Looks like he's just trying to milk the AtE.

This is what I am referring to Kuz, your making posts like this to refer to how he would play as town from a meta standpoint to entice people to lynch him.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Raz, I'm going to not even bother responding to that because of tired of throwing around walls and seeing you wriggle your way out of every thing I say by twisting it. You're just better than me by far, and I tip my hat to you.

You're still my top lynch pick for today, though, and I think that you're pure scum.

-_-

Really?

 

[th3kuzinator]

That was the first time in my entire push that I actually used meta.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Whatevs.

unvote
Vote: Nabe

Still think Acro lynch is more likely to flip scum but rather go with this than a NL and last minute arguing.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Nabe I'm getting to your question. I have an essay due at 1PM today and then I should be free for a good chunk of the afternoon. I'll get to it then.

 

[Inferno3044]

Nobody hammer Nabe until WK answers my question.

 

[Inferno3044]

actually

unvote

I'll revote him later but I don't need anyone hammering him.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Lol. No one hammers me until I have a response from Kuz, thank you very much.

Inferno is gross, people should look at him toMorrow after all.


Kuz, that's acceptable. But it's definitely poor form to come in and respond to everyone around me, when the answer I'm asking of you only requires effort if you're lying, and therefore shouldn't take a "good chunk" of time. Thus it reflects as scummy on you for doing so, and I question why you didn't simply tell me yesterday that I'd be waiting until today, when you were posting to other people.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

@Nabe - I know you said he's scummy but that's not what I asked. I asked if you think he is scum which is a different question that if you think he is scummy.

Do you remember when you interjected your response in place of Kuz's, and in turn I wrote you a long response? You might even remember this paragraph from that response:

And all of this pales in comparison to the larger point that Raziek probably isn't scum, despite all the entirely reasonable scumpoints I've made note of, and that town doesn't have time to look at him. The whole reason this is at all relevant to me, and why I interjected my opinion, is because it serves as a very clear example of Kuz valuing setup, which is only important because he says he's not. This is all for the sake of saying that Kuz is taking an action which is null-to-anti-town, and I cannot for the life of me figure out why you're stepping in yourself to argue it.

The bolding for emphasis was already there, and the response was addressed to you. This shows me you're not paying attention.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I'm getting away from my point now, @ everyone, which is that Werekill is scum. Inferno is scummy, Kuz is scummy, Raz is scummy, but Werekill is scum and I've made it very clear why I believe that to be the case. Eyes and ears should be on those three toMorrow, but votes should be on him.

 

[Inferno3044]

I thought that raziek not being scum was sarcasm from you. I read that as "I have these legit points on raziek as to why he is scum but you guys think he's town because he's link." Sorry if I misinterpretated it.

 

[Inferno3044]

Also heads up, the deadline is at 3am EST. Let's hurry up.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

Apologize for my spat of inactivity. Haven't had time to play for the past day or two. Will hammer if a lynch is needed to go through. Feel no particular gravitation towards any of my reads I have listed as PoE at the moment. I do have a town read on Circus and Red Ryu and I think that a majority of this player list does too, therefore I don't understand what we really want to get out of a Nabe lynch. The only additional piece of information I would get for my reads is that townNabe clears Red Ryu from being indie, which is already a low possibility in my book. Nabe can be used to investigate or check other players at the moment. Also I am attempting to rationalize why indieNabe would fabricate clearing two other player slots of scum alignment completely, making himself a viable lynch target. Normally I would assume that indie would simply try to claim VT and ride it through to the end. I am not convinced that he is the play for the day. I should be here a couple hours shy from 8am GMT in case a hammer is needed.

 

[Raziek]

Ok, people need to be here. Like, now. Tonight. And hammer and ****.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I'll hammer if no one else is here around midnight est.

 

[Raziek]

That does loads to ease my concern, Nabe.

You're not even at L-1 at the moment, unless I'm mistaken.

 

[Inferno3044]

I'll put him back at L-1.

Vote: Nabe

 

[Raziek]

Thanks, Inferno.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I thought that raziek not being scum was sarcasm from you. I read that as "I have these legit points on raziek as to why he is scum but you guys think he's town because he's link." Sorry if I misinterpretated it.

It's not that people are arguing he's town against my points, it's that they're arguing he's town by citing only setup and ignoring my argument entirely. He is probably town despite my points, but not for the BS people are getting away with citing, and it's becoming a shield for players who should be giving a read.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

That does loads to ease my concern, Nabe.

You're not even at L-1 at the moment, unless I'm mistaken.

Luckily, it doesn't matter a bit what you think or what concern you have, since I'll be here to hammer, and since the likelihood of no one coming to hammer is next to none. But good job being pissed at and suspicious of passing clouds.

 

[Lore]

Inferno, your question has made me realize something. Raz has played a great game as scum, and the only read that I can think of getting off of his lynch is one on Kuz, who used flavor as pretty much the only way to defend Raz.

I'm ok with the Nabe lynch in terms of info aquired, but I'm not switching to that wagon no matter how little we would get from a Raz lynch. He's just so scummy that I feel almost like gnawing my own arm off.

However, I'll check in around 12 to see if Nabe has hammered since there's no chance of anyone switching to a different lynch. If it is absolutely required, I'll hammer.

 

[Lore]

This will likely be one of my final posts before flip.

If (and when) Nabe flips town, we will have 4 people who are unconfirmed as town/scum: Kuz, Raz, Inferno, and Acrostic.

My guess? Kuz and Raz for Indy pair, Inferno for last scum. He's a protective role who roleblocks, and I admit that it seems odd that we have so many different protective roles, like Kuz has already stated. When Nabe flips town, I say that we look into Inferno.

Kuz and Raz are Indy pair because Kuz used baseless flavor to defend Raz, who I believe is pure scum. Their interaction makes me think that Raz is not working all by himself, bla bla bla.

If we have one Indy, I say pick between Inferno and Raz and shoot.

Of course, I could be very wrong about the indy/mafia picks in terms of faction, but when Nabe flips town, I'll know for a fact that only 4 unconfirmed players are left.

 

[Lore]

Also, I'll be copping Acro.

Inferno, defend who you wish. Be the wine in front of scum.

 

[th3kuzinator]

....................

Unvote; Vote: Werekill

 

[th3kuzinator]

omgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomg

why dont we have more time for this to happen

 

[Raziek]

Want to make this happen Kuz?

 

[th3kuzinator]

Raziek you're town. Lets put this stupid **** behind us and actually make sense of this Day.

Look at 3155 and 3156 in context with what Nabe is calling him out for. Reeks so bad.