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HyugaRicdeau said:
This is an interesting idea, and I think something similar might be good in Norcal too. But I'd like the ranked people to be able to compete too, just more among themselves, so here are a few ideas for formats:

-Just 2 separate non-interacting brackets. Problems are that most ranked people like the warm-up match against the unranked, and also unranked people like to get the experience of playing the top players.
-Amateur bracket plays first, top X play in pro bracket. Only problem with this is it deprives the ranked people of a few tourney sets. This might be solved by:
-2 sets of pools, a set of ranked players to determine seeding in the pro bracket, which would have a few slots open for the top X people from a set of pools unranked players. The seeding is fairly well-established among the ranked people though, so having them play pools might be just busywork.

Again I think this is a cool idea and it will encourage more people to step up their game and also maybe more people might show up to tourneys if they know they aren't getting auto-***** first round.
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I don't see a point in having a pro-bracket. The pot is going to be $50 spread over 3 people. We might as well just money match each other a lot. And there's absolutely no way a doubles pro-bracket would be viable.

The second option sounds pretty good, except again, the lack of entrants in the pro bracket is going to be a problem. How does the money get distributed? Do the people who win the amateur bracket get money, or do they simply play to get into the pro bracket? If the former, there is a huge lack of cash available for the winners of the pro bracket, giving less importance to the pro bracket and suggesting that it isn't a serious or official competition.

If the latter, then we would need pools to create a complete tournament experience, the way they did at SCSA (which I thought had a good system), but I don't see that many people attending, at least for the first one. The entry fee would most likely be $5 across the board, with no real difference except that the pros play less and are guaranteed top placings while the amateurs feel more accomplished since they move on from a bracket.

My aim is to get a lot of people to play, by distributing money across more placings. They'll get a chance to play more Finals sets and win back some cash as well as risk less in terms of entry fee. I think the broader pot split and the chance to win a tournament is a better incentive than simply moving them to another bracket where they will get ***** the same as any other tournament. Ranked people can survive one week without a tournament.

Thanks for the support though, it's good to know THE Sheridan is helping out.
 
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Jkun said:
if i remember correctly

didn't MLG did something like this

hey the Venue is full right now for that month

and the office lady said she'll call me back when there is a open spot
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Kind of. But I never attended one.

Did you check Sundays?
 
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I didn't check sunday yet

watching the Melee Community organizing another amazing tournament like this is amazing
 
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having pro and am brackets is just like giving people like 5 byes

if the "pros" want to play, just put them in the same bracket and handicap them in some way

always starts down 0-1, never gets to counterpick, non-pro gets to ban X characters, something like that
 
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LOL i forgot about kouryuu somehow

looks like arcadians aren't gonna breeze by after all

edit - bring futile
 
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yeah cuz how long does it take to make a phone call and let me know about it

NOT AN HOUR

don't make me babysit, i thought you wanted to be a co-host
 
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lol Fiction? :3

sigh I really can't think of anyone I'd want to teach me cept for MaNg0 (Puff).
I don't think Hugo's any good at teaching Samus.

I'll play Puff and Marth for this tourney.
 
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We are so doing sidebets at this.

edit NVM cam has a puff lol

$10 bucks on Cameron who wants it?
2nd - 12
3rd - macd

anyone know how to do that gambling ****?

like if steven/cam/macd get top 3 but out of order i still get some money
something like that


pat atlus wes where you at
 
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Me and Pat got 1st place teams for sure

but for me singles there's a bunch of people who can snipe me like Nashun, don't pair me up with him
 
ConnorTheKid

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lol Fiction isn't gonna do a thing. Neither is Pnoy.

Cameron should have this in the bag but he has to stop choking first.
 
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Kira- said:
I don't see a point in having a pro-bracket. The pot is going to be $50 spread over 3 people. We might as well just money match each other a lot. And there's absolutely no way a doubles pro-bracket would be viable.

The second option sounds pretty good, except again, the lack of entrants in the pro bracket is going to be a problem. How does the money get distributed? Do the people who win the amateur bracket get money, or do they simply play to get into the pro bracket? If the former, there is a huge lack of cash available for the winners of the pro bracket, giving less importance to the pro bracket and suggesting that it isn't a serious or official competition.

If the latter, then we would need pools to create a complete tournament experience, the way they did at SCSA (which I thought had a good system), but I don't see that many people attending, at least for the first one. The entry fee would most likely be $5 across the board, with no real difference except that the pros play less and are guaranteed top placings while the amateurs feel more accomplished since they move on from a bracket.

My aim is to get a lot of people to play, by distributing money across more placings. They'll get a chance to play more Finals sets and win back some cash as well as risk less in terms of entry fee. I think the broader pot split and the chance to win a tournament is a better incentive than simply moving them to another bracket where they will get ***** the same as any other tournament. Ranked people can survive one week without a tournament.

Thanks for the support though, it's good to know THE Sheridan is helping out.
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Yeah I think I understand your intentions more now. There has to be a money incentive for the non-ranked bracket. The only thing I could think of would be something like, having the ranked bracket have higher entry fee or something, and the top X from the non-ranked can join it. Whatever, not something to worry about right now. I think if the idea of a national Melee circuit starts taking hold, then something like this would be appropriate.

Oh yeah, I'm glad to see stage-striking! But when you say DK64 isn't neutral for teams, is that implying that it IS neutral for singles, thereby being the 7th stage (since you need an odd number)?
 
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I'm no arcadian but I'm also no teacher I might show up to let my main man chris get off on these arcadians
 
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HyugaRicdeau said:
I think if the idea of a national Melee circuit starts taking hold, then something like this would be appropriate.
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I definitely agree.

Oh yeah, I'm glad to see stage-striking! But when you say DK64 isn't neutral for teams, is that implying that it IS neutral for singles, thereby being the 7th stage (since you need an odd number)?
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Thanks for pointing that out lol. Yeah it has to be neutral for singles then.
 
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