Actually Steel, you haven't been that active, and what you have posted hasn't helped us at all really. Go check your post history, anyone do so if you wish.
It was a pressure vote, nothing more, nothing less.
But, reading back on the Marshy claim, I had missed a part of it before (since it happened when I was VLA) I've made my decision.
Unvote Vote Marshy
Marshy's the play, guaranteed. I'm not letting him get away with this.
For those worried about mislynching today, we should be worried about mislynching any day. We don't have enough to nail down a 100% scum. We never do, that's why it's a game where we have to do our best.
Ok, the facts...
Marshy claimed tracker. He said FF visited me. FF confirms this, so Marshy is a confirmed tracker. FF claims, and I confirm his claim. I'm already cleared town. FF now cleared town. Marshy is cleared tracker, NOT town tracker. There is a such thing as a Mafia Tracker, check out the game I linked to earlier. Steel asked Marshy for his other findings. Marshy told him to stop fishing and wouldn't tell him the other results (though admitted that he got another result earlier, but it wasn't visiting to a corpse.
Fact of the matter is, any information from a Town Tracker is helpful to the town. Why would Marshy withold information? The only reason Trackers don't just openly give out their findings when they get them is so they don't have to claim and become a target, but Marshy already claimed and seems to have gotten us to think that he's confirmed gg (good guy lol).
So Marshy? Why are you withholding the info? There is 100% no reason at all to withhold the information and tell Steel to bug off. You're hurting the town by withholding info, so you are playing Anti-Town.
Furthermore, you claimed when you are L-2. I'm confident in your skills to defend yourself at Mafia, you aren't a noob at all. I'm sure you could defend yourself (especially with the Vanilla Cop stuff) without role claiming, but you took the easy route. Why claim? Because you got the opportunity to clear yourself and cast suspicion on someone else (FF). Too bad for you that I was able to confirm his existence.
So... Marshy didn't need to roleclaim (though he was correct that at L-2 with me not voting him if someone else voted him I would have probably hammered) but he did anyway. He had the whole defense story of the purpose of a Vanilla Cop and what the role does etc, idk why he wouldn't roll with it and prevent himself from role claiming until he absolutely hadn't needed to so a (supposed) town PR would still be hidden and the scum wouldn't target him.
Go read the Bloodlust Mafia I posted from Mafia Scum, the same thing happened. There was a Mafia Tracker. He claimed when he didn't need to so he could clear himself and put suspicion on someone else (in the case of casting suspicion on me being a Vig and accidentally killing a townie at night), he said that he tracked me to the dead townie (which I confirmed by saying I'm a Vig), but tried to push that I was an SK instead. Guess what happened, people thought he was cleared and instead looked to me.
So Marshy roleclaimed when he didn't need to (he rly didn't need to YET tbh), and casted suspicion on FF. He acted overly adamant in his suspicion on FF (a townie should be weary in the situation were in, and lets face it, theres town killing roles besides just scummy ones). How would he know that he should that much suspicion on FF at the moment? Because he's scum, knows who else is scum, and knows FF isn't scum (as I already proved).
Going back to thinking one of the scummies are in the group of inactive not helping ppl, it could also be the other way around, and sort of taking some of Meno's thought process, if a scum were to act active and get himself in this whole mess of confirmed people, that would be great for them, seems a little too convinient if you ask me (it's just that Meno instead decided to think ALL of us are scum lol). Marshy could have easily achieved all of this.
Couple this with all of my scum reads on Marshy throughout the game (read back if you forget). And we're dealing with a dangerous person right now.
EVEN FURTHER
we've got the Vanilla Cop claim. Ok, so a Vanilla Cop finds out if they have the word Vanilla in their name. This means you would get a guilty verdict if they do have it in their name. The cop got a guilty on Ronike. Ronike was a "Mafia Roleblocker." The word Vanilla was not in his name. This means one of two things... Either the cop acts like a normal cop and Rockin blows for trying to make us think otherwise lol (not likely cause a role is a role) or that the cop was either insane or paranoid. This has to be the case. Tbh I'm not sure why someone would include a paranoid vanilla cop (lol f u rockin), and even though I shouldn't assume this, I'm going to go with a insane vanilla cop for the fact that a paranoid vanilla cop makes no f'in sense lol. This means that since Ronike didn't have the word vanilla in his name, the result should have been innocent, but insane makes it a guilty. There is now a guilty reading on Marshy. This means the word vanilla IS NOT in Marshys name.
We know Marshy is a Tracker. Town Tracker or Mafia Tracker. The word vanilla isn't in either. This confirms that KK was either insane or paranoid (again I'm going to assume (uhg) insane). This means the defense of the vanilla cop claim on Marshy is 100% meaningless. We shouldn't use it to further him being cleared or putting even more suspicion on him. Since we know Marshy is a tracker, we might as well pretend that KK never got a verdict on Marshy.
Unfortunately KK never got a innocent read on anyone for us to know (knowing a cleared vanilla townie).
But yup, that's my case, there's the play of the day. Time to end this day and nonsense and kill Marshy.
Warning:
Tomorrow I want to see everyone be active in posting and scumhunting. Tomorrow lets begin with looking at connections from the first three days of the games to all of the flips we will have had.
