Mafia Game Queue and Sign Up Thread - Mention me about queue updates please!

[praline]

I think we should have a bastardry counter for each game going forward. Maybe on a scale of 1-5 just so people know how crazy it'll get before starting.

1 for no bastardy and 5 for role madness.

 

[Natz~]

theres a difference between role madness and bastardy though :V

 

[praline]

If Pokechu doesn't show up today I might just start my game.

theres a difference between role madness and bastardy though :V

You know what I meant!

 

[Maven89]

Every mafia game doesn’t need a gimmick. You can make a forum game version of Advanced Wars or something without trying to work mafia into it.

 

[Pokechu]

Sorry for disappearing :^(

At this time I'm not ready to host AC Mafia so I'm more than fine with letting praline go with her PokeMafia 2

Just make sure to give me a full victory this time LOL

 

[Natz~]

Sorry for disappearing :^(

At this time I'm not ready to host AC Mafia so I'm more than fine with letting praline go with her PokeMafia 2

Just make sure to give me a full victory this time LOL

np at all dude :V

just worried if everythings alrighty over there

 

[Ura]

So praline are you going to start PokeMafia 2 now?

 

[praline]

So I'm gonna make the topic probably later today when i get home.

Also I have a question for everyone. The game I'm gonna be doing has the potential to be really short... if it ends really quickly can I do my other Pokemafia right after or no?

 

[Ura]

Well I guess. Why not just have one average length game?

 

[Jojalole]

So I'm gonna make the topic probably later today when i get home.

Also I have a question for everyone. The game I'm gonna be doing has the potential to be really short... if it ends really quickly can I do my other Pokemafia right after or no?

If it ends that short, I'm fine with it since it's a continuation of the theme of the game, though only if it ends really short.

 

[praline]

The thread is up for my new Pokemafia!

https://smashboards.com/threads/pokemafia-safari-zoned.457968/

 

[vaanrose]

I think we should have a bastardry counter for each game going forward. Maybe on a scale of 1-5 just so people know how crazy it'll get before starting.

1 for no bastardy and 5 for role madness.

Why does 1 bastardry meant 0 bastardry. What if I want to run a game with 1 bastardry?

 

[praline]

Why does 1 bastardry meant 0 bastardry. What if I want to run a game with 1 bastardry?

Uhh.. i was going with like how star ratings go from 1 star to 5 stars... it made sense to me. :/

Also did you not get a mention from me?

 

[vaanrose]

Uhh.. i was going with like how star ratings go from 1 star to 5 stars... it made sense to me. :/

Also did you not get a mention from me?

Ah, yeah, I did. I got like 40 notifications last night, lol, I didn't see it. I have seen your game is up, but after last game, stuff like this

The game I'm gonna be doing has the potential to be really short...

and this

Well I’ll just say this game is a bit different from a normal mafia.

makes me a might wary.

 

[praline]

Ah, yeah, I did. I got like 40 notifications last night, lol, I didn't see it. I have seen your game is up, but after last game, stuff like this



and this



makes me a might wary.

It’s not gonna be as different as Wolfie’s was, and just cause it could be short doesn’t mean it will.. it just might? lol

 

[BarDulL]

Ahhh, so that is what "Bastardry: 1" meant.

I thought about it and realized that when you say a game has bastardry, it in turn basically makes it so that no one can reliably trust any mod confirmed information for certain in that same game. :/

That said, a rating system is not a bad idea but I hope people don't start incorporating bastardry into their games. It just shouldn't be a trend at all.

Like, it's OK to experiment, but for example if a host at any point presents information as reasonably factual to players when it is actually false information, it is just not right and ruins the experience. This isn't to be misconstrued with a cop receiving a result after he visits a godfather for example. However, telling a player they are Town in their role pm when in fact they are scum is not ok, and should just never be a thing here (I think we can all agree to this honestly).

On that note, I figure I may as well just put out this general list that covers some of the major culprits of bastardry that should be handled VERY CAREFULLY in games (borrowed from Mafiascum wiki with some additions by me):

• Cults (Bard's addendum: generally cults are only really bad when they can't be reasonably anticipated; it is generally considered good form to offer mod confirmed information and major hints that heavily imply the existence of a cult in a straightforward manner so that everyone knows what to expect).

• Mid-game alignment changes (Bard's addendum: classic example of this would be if a mafioso player was able to convert a town player into a mafia-aligned player after the game has already progressed. However if the mod announces that a change of alignment has occurred in the thread, it subverts bastardry to a degree because players are given a reason to re-analyze their town reads instead of letting a converted player ride their early game play from when they were Town.)

• Moderator lies that cannot be reasonably anticipated (Bard's addendum: this part basically refers to lying in role PMs. However it also encompasses presenting false flips after lynches/kills. Just don’t ever do this).

• Secret win conditions (Bard's addendum: players can't knowingly play towards a secret win condition so there's basically no skill involved in randomly achieving a secret win condition. It is especially bad if that secret win condition ends the game...do not ever do this).

• Un-divulged non-randomness in player role/alignment generation (Bard's layman's terms: means assigning roles to players manually without informing the roster instead of just randomly assigning roles.)

• Direct moderator influence during the game (Bard's addendum: for example, if the mod encourages people to lynch a specific player that is getting on everyone's nerves, it's considered to be bastardry. Even if that player is annoying, the mod needs to remain indifferent and impartial when carrying out their duties as a host. Another example of this would be like if the mod unprovoked heavily implies a player to be town when there was no good reason to do so).

There's other things that constitute bastardry but these are the ones to definitely look out for. If any hosts want to talk to me about bastardry to get a better understanding, just let me know.

I'm not going to be an authoritative draconian wiener about it (I'm just one man and recognize that I’m just a single opinion, ultimately) but hosts need to be aware that their players are not going to be pleased when one of the aforementioned culprits of bastardry on that list ends up seeing play. Trust me on this, lol. Ok I'm done rambling about it, I've said what I needed to say, yada yada.

 

[Maven89]

An example of light bastardry is my Monty Python mafia, where almost everyone had a fake role and were really vanilla. In return, their action results were given as complete nonsense, leading almost every player to realize what was going on by day 2, as well as giving the town a role cop that was real and would get results as “fake vigilante” if they targeted the vig.

Despite that, it wasn’t a very fun game, definitely more fun for me to come up with than it was for people to play, but no one left it pissed off. Overall bastardry is something to avoid. People just don’t like it

 

[Natz~]

people play a game to play a game :V

people don't like getting ****ed with

 

[praline]

I guess I’ll confirm now that Pokemafia 4 is the last one I’ll do. This one I’m feeling a bit more ambitious with and want 2 cohosts to help me. Red if he’s up for it and someone else.

 

[Deleted member]

There seems to be a lot of anti-night rules in these games lately.
I understand why, but it is not the same without all of the chaos. Call me "stupid", but I will allow anyone to make any PM without any restrictions at night.

So I'm gonna make the topic probably later today when i get home.

Also I have a question for everyone. The game I'm gonna be doing has the potential to be really short... if it ends really quickly can I do my other Pokemafia right after or no?

I think you should be allowed to do your Pokemafia next if it is really short.
Plus, I would take Pokemafia 2 over most mafias.

people don't like getting ****ed with

That is true, but it is a part of life for almost everyone.
One way or another, that will happen.

 

[Natz~]

That is true, but it is a part of life for almost everyone.
One way or another, that will happen.

....i got a dirty mind...

anyway so what, doesn't mean we should do our best to discourage it as much as possible

 

[Deleted member]

Also, I am lowkey hoping Golden is a nuke again.

....i got a dirty mind...

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

[praline]

So vaanrose you can have Scooby Doo mafia and I’ll be your cohost.

Also either Jojalole can have the Dragon Ball Super mafia or he and I can both be cohosts and get a third person to be the main host.

 

[Pokechu]

So vaanrose you can have Scooby Doo mafia and I’ll be your cohost.

Also either Jojalole can have the Dragon Ball Super mafia or he and I can both be cohosts and get a third person to be the main host.

Whaaaaaaaaaat???? Whyyyyyyyy??

But you're a really good host!!! RIP :^(

 

[praline]

Whaaaaaaaaaat???? Whyyyyyyyy??

But you're a really good host!!! RIP :^(

I think I’m better as a cohost. I mean Red did pretty much everything for Pokemafia once the game started. I’m still gonna host the 2 last Pokemafia games after I do this one.

 

[Natz~]

i still gotta get my game up and written down, and get that in a review

blargh remember i was suppose to do that in like mid july but **** got so busy its never gotten around to get down

 

[Jojalole]

So vaanrose you can have Scooby Doo mafia and I’ll be your cohost.

Also either Jojalole can have the Dragon Ball Super mafia or he and I can both be cohosts and get a third person to be the main host.

I think I’m better as a cohost. I mean Red did pretty much everything for Pokemafia once the game started. I’m still gonna host the 2 last Pokemafia games after I do this one.

Aww, that's a shame, but if you think it's better that way, then so be it.

I don't think I can handle the tournament of power mafia, I don't know how to implement the idea you had and while I like DB, I don't have as much knowledge as with other series. So I dunno what will happen with that game...

 

[praline]

Aww, that's a shame, but if you think it's better that way, then so be it.

I don't think I can handle the tournament of power mafia, I don't know how to implement the idea you had and while I like DB, I don't have as much knowledge as with other series. So I dunno what will happen with that game...

I’ll still work on it probably but it’ll go on hold until we find someone competent enough to handle it lol

 

[Deleted member]

4 more minutes until showtime!

 

[Deleted member]

I admit, I understand why hosts put night restrictions in their game, but...

I will not put any night restrictions in my mafia, because it is quite fun talking to your buddies about who is the baddy, I admit.

Even if it is complete chaos at times. Especially when I am the sole host.

 

[praline]

I feel like putting a bastardry level on my game was a bad idea...

Also I think maybe putting one at all in games is just a bad idea, we should just keep from doing any bastardry.

 

[BarDulL]

I think we all just need to be on the same page regarding what bastardry is.

This post identifies what is generally agreed to be bastardry according to an online consensus (this extends outside of smashboards, and is derived from mafiascum which is one of the more respectable sites). However, there are certain roles or mechanics that people here have suggested are not bastardry despite being considered bastardry by the aforementioned consensus.

We should talk more about it though when your game is over praline

 

[praline]

I’m cancelling Pokemafia 2 indefinitely.

 

[Ura]

I’m cancelling Pokemafia 2 indefinitely.

Don't be so hard on yourself. Just give the ruleset an overhaul and start the game whenever you feel like hosting.

 

[praline]

I changed my mind. I’m not anymore.

Also Coricus Pokechu are either of you ready?

 

[Deleted member]

I would love to cut, but that is never happening.

Also what is going to happen next? A break perhaps?

 

[Pokechu]

I changed my mind. I’m not anymore.

Also Coricus Pokechu are either of you ready?

LOL

I'm sooooo sorry I keep on pushing AC mafia away but I've had high hopes for it and want it to come at a time where I know I can make it the shmack it deserves to be!

So if Cori's not ready either, heeeere's to PokeMafia 2!!

 

[Deleted member]

LOL

I'm sooooo sorry I keep on pushing AC mafia away but I've had high hopes for it and want it to come at a time where I know I can make it the shmack it deserves to be!

So if Cori's not ready either, heeeere's to PokeMafia 2!!

Uhhh, than can I take the 1 spot please?

I am just kidding, than either Pokemafia 2 or the person after you.

 

[praline]

LOL

I'm sooooo sorry I keep on pushing AC mafia away but I've had high hopes for it and want it to come at a time where I know I can make it the shmack it deserves to be!

So if Cori's not ready either, heeeere's to PokeMafia 2!!

No way I’m not going twice in a row. That was only if Opo got lynched day 1. I can’t handle the stress of hosting 2 games consecutively.

It’s vaanrose turn then if he’s ready.

 

[Pokechu]

No way I’m not going twice in a row. That was only if Opo got lynched day 1. I can’t handle the stress of hosting 2 games consecutively.

It’s vaanrose turn then if he’s ready.

Awww phooey

That makes sense, though! I haven't hosted yet so I'm blind to all that stress