Mafia and Werewolves Gamethread

[UtopianPoyzin]

If its just going to be me vs FF might as well vote now.

vote: frozenflame

Chop Chop

I would rather it be FrozenFlame vs Gellnick. Why not go with those two options? Do you want to be the lucky guest to defend gellnick here?

 

[Tsumugi Shirogane]

Well how about "why would it be Swiss here" if you were the one checked by the cop, and why does that not extend to gellnick.

I think gellnick is scum. I don't currently believe he has a teammate, which means he must be traitor. How did you play mafia before?

CAUSE IK I AINT THE TRAITOR LOL

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Mind you if I die here if mafia shoot town game just ends in mafia victory. So unless your betting on some world view where the mafia accidentally shoot the traitor I suggest FF.

This is circular reasoning. I know what MyLo is, and I very much think that gellnick is scum. Therefore I would like to vote scum in my game of mafia tyvm

 

[Tsumugi Shirogane]

I would rather it be FrozenFlame vs Gellnick. Why not go with those two options? Do you want to be the lucky guest to defend gellnick here?

Not defending gellnick here, I just believe the safer options are FF or Swiss.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

CAUSE IK I AINT THE TRAITOR LOL

Yeah but why can it be Swiss but not gellnick?

 

[Tsumugi Shirogane]

This is circular reasoning. I know what MyLo is, and I very much think that gellnick is scum. Therefore I would like to vote scum in my game of mafia tyvm

If my towncore decides to vote gellnick I will go there

Shur
Rhand
You

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Not defending gellnick here, I just believe the safer options are FF or Swiss.

Well then let's just go with that. Why is FF a safer option? See #2468

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

If my towncore decides to vote gellnick I will go there

Shur
Rhand
You

Imagine thinking shur and rhand would vote gellnick XD

 

[Tsumugi Shirogane]

If my towncore decides to vote gellnick I will go there

Shur
Rhand
You

I believe in all worlds rhand prefers FF and I don't see why you wouldn't be ok voting FF UtopianPoyzin , unless there some world where u believe that slot is town.

 

[Tsumugi Shirogane]

Imagine thinking shur and rhand would vote gellnick XD

Well that's an issue, how do u want gellnick to get voted if the other people who are clearly town don't wanna vote the slot?

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

That's pretty obstinate tbh. Make up your own mind and think "why am I so confident in FF being scum". There's so many active scum its unreal, why are we resorting to the person who's been gone the whole day due to irl stuff

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Well that's an issue, how do u want gellnick to get voted if the other people who are clearly town don't wanna vote the slot?

"Clearly town" uh huh uh huh

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

"FF scum because he's gone and Swiss and UP pushback"

 

[Swiss]

I'll take a lynch or Nerbins or Gellnick - FF is a bad 3rd option.

Rhand won't go Gellnick

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

This post gives off the same vibe as swiss posts about mao being night kill bait for being very clearly a town PR. The stench coming off of it just reeks of being informed. Seems like Wisp was the only one to really call out the post this quote came from.

There's nothing wrong with that post imo. I also townread Mao

 

[Tsumugi Shirogane]

There's nothing wrong with that post imo. I also townread Mao

Town reading a person and calling them a town PR are two very different things.

That's pretty obstinate tbh. Make up your own mind and think "why am I so confident in FF being scum". There's so many active scum its unreal, why are we resorting to the person who's been gone the whole day due to irl stuff

Another issue here is I believe swiss is the traitor, so if he's confident in voting gell I'm not.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

There's nothing wrong with that post imo. I also townread Mao

As for the way he said it, "if you're scum", I did the same kinda thing where I once promised someone discord nitro if they were scum because I townread them so hard. Luckily they were actually town so lol

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Another issue here is I believe swiss is the traitor, so if he's confident in voting gell I'm not.

He's also confident voting you based on things that Nerbins said that I still have a problem with but he replaced out before he could get things resolved and most of your content has been majorly null in my eyes, still tainted by Whysper and Nerbins

 

[Swiss]

Town reading a person and calling them a town PR are two very different things.



Another issue here is I believe swiss is the traitor, so if he's confident in voting gell I'm not.

Well in that case I'm super sure gellnick and you are both town

 

[Swiss]

smashes face into desk

UP you're talking to a brick wall

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

How about you find some more FF posts so that we can talk about them, that would probably be more productive than whatever we're doing rn tbh Tsumugi Shirogane

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Town reading a person and calling them a town PR are two very different things.

He didn't say that in the post? He just said it was very clearly noob!town kinda behavior and he would be impressed if it was acted out.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Another issue here is I believe swiss is the traitor, so if he's confident in voting gell I'm not.

Once again still haven't said how it can't be gellnick while it can be Swiss, but it seems that you've dropped that front and have now decided that you aren't going to read gellnick as traitor because you're too busy reading Swiss as traitor at which point idt I can help you there :/

 

[Tsumugi Shirogane]

Well in that case I'm super sure gellnick and you are both town

....Baka
How dare you town read me

smashes face into desk

UP you're talking to a brick wall

I ain't a brick wall. I just ain't naive. You've very clearly made a lot of shady posts, so has FF and Gell. I am still iffy on gell because I haven't had the time to backread his d1 posts.

 

[Tsumugi Shirogane]

Once again still haven't said how it can't be gellnick while it can be Swiss, but it seems that you've dropped that front and have now decided that you aren't going to read gellnick as traitor because you're too busy reading Swiss as traitor at which point idt I can help you there :/

Here me out, because this is stupid as ****. Even if there is a world where gellnick is traitor, I still think both slots are aligned opposite of town. So doesn't really matter which one is the traitor.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

I believe in all worlds rhand prefers FF and I don't see why you wouldn't be ok voting FF UtopianPoyzin , unless there some world where u believe that slot is town.

There are threeeeeeeeeeeee scum. I'm not denying the fact that FF can be one of them, he hasn't proven himself to be town yet so it's very well possible. But in the world where he is scum, there's still 2 other scum who are active in the thread that are much safer because of the fact that they are active in the thread and are making problematic posts right before our very eyes. In typical games there would be 2 scum at 8 but we have the unfortunate reality that there are 3 at 8. We should have many options. FF is not at all the best one.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Here me out, because this is stupid as ****. Even if there is a world where gellnick is traitor, I still think both slots are aligned opposite of town. So doesn't really matter which one is the traitor.

I agree that gellnick is likely aligned opposite of town. So even if he isn't traitor, we hit mafia anyway.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

....Baka
How dare you town read me

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I ain't a brick wall. I just ain't naive. You've very clearly made a lot of shady posts, so has FF and Gell. I am still iffy on gell because I haven't had the time to backread his d1 posts.

youre literally ignorant because you choose not to spend your time getting informed. I cannot believe how blasé you’re being about the importance of reading the thread as a whole to have informed stances when we’re in mylo

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

@rest of the game does it seem right that tsumugi is spending their time fairly active now rather than taking the time to read the thread and becoming more acquainted with the thread? the last piece of evidence I see of her reading up is she quoted ff’s like first or 2nd post in the game. that’s EXTREMELY bad from a townie, considering we’re <36 hrs from deadline

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I have a feeling scum!tsumugi came in here, saw rhand and shurian call Swiss confirmed traitor, wrapped their head around it quickly, and then committed full stop to that because it was evident that that’d be the best course of action for a game winning lynch. And something tells me they would’ve won if poyzin didn’t reconsider his reads from yesterDay.

tsumugi I dare you to respond to this instead of reading the thread and catching up properly

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

@rest of the game does it seem right that tsumugi is spending their time fairly active now rather than taking the time to read the thread and becoming more acquainted with the thread? the last piece of evidence I see of her reading up is she quoted ff’s like first or 2nd post in the game. that’s EXTREMELY bad from a townie, considering we’re <36 hrs from deadline

Man I just want to vote out gellnick why is that too much to ask

 

[Tsumugi Shirogane]

youre literally ignorant because you choose not to spend your time getting informed. I cannot believe how blasé you’re being about the importance of reading the thread as a whole to have informed stances when we’re in mylo

I don't what your issue with me is, but like I see you as town, so stop fighting me lol.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Chop Chop Request votecount

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I don't what your issue with me is, but like I see you as town, so stop fighting me lol.

my issue with your slot is I think it’s scum. That’s just the way it rolls sometimes.

My issue with you is exactly that quote. Like verbatim. It’s hard for me to get a real read on you, personally, when you’re clinging onto something you’re calling obvious that is anything but. You’d rather try reinforcing your position you’ve assumed upon entrance instead of, oh idk, reading through the thread. Even a skim. It is so not how town plays replacing in. Look at shurian: read the thread in ample time. Maybe started posting before being fully caught up I don’t exactly remember, but there was not this disconnect between how they were speaking about the game and how much they knew about the game. Same with poyzin to a degree but at the same time their immediate entrance was... not the best. There is that disconnect for you.

 

[Rhand]

Can everyone list all possible worlds that are viable to them? From most to least plausible.

 

[Tsumugi Shirogane]

my issue with your slot is I think it’s scum. That’s just the way it rolls sometimes.

My issue with you is exactly that quote. Like verbatim. It’s hard for me to get a real read on you, personally, when you’re clinging onto something you’re calling obvious that is anything but. You’d rather try reinforcing your position you’ve assumed upon entrance instead of, oh idk, reading through the thread. Even a skim. It is so not how town plays replacing in. Look at shurian: read the thread in ample time. Maybe started posting before being fully caught up I don’t exactly remember, but there was not this disconnect between how they were speaking about the game and how much they knew about the game. Same with poyzin to a degree but at the same time their immediate entrance was... not the best. There is that disconnect for you.

So you're saying I'm scum because I won't reread the thread or at least take the time to, yes? If that's the case, ill finish my essay and just spend the rest of my time reading this thread, even though I really doubt it will change any of my views just strengthen them.

 

[Tsumugi Shirogane]

Can everyone list all possible worlds that are viable to them? From most to least plausible.

FF & Gell, Swiss
FF & Swiss, Gell ( To appease utopia)
FF & Gorf, Swiss ( Weakest two)
FF & Gorf, Gell ( Weakest two)

 

[Rhand]

FF & Gell, Swiss
FF & Swiss, Gell ( To appease utopia)
FF & Gorf, Swiss ( Weakest two)
FF & Gorf, Gell ( Weakest two)

Why is Utopia sure town to you?

 

[Tsumugi Shirogane]

Why is Utopia sure town to you?

I don't see poyzin in any worlds, and his tunnel on gell is more of a town quality than a scum quality in my book.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

So you're saying I'm scum because I won't reread the thread or at least take the time to, yes? If that's the case, ill finish my essay and just spend the rest of my time reading this thread, even though I really doubt it will change any of my views just strengthen them.

Ohhhhhhhhhh boy no that’s not what I’m saying, I’m saying you’re scum regardless of what you do. You were scum before you replaced in