[M-1, 10, 13] Taco City Takeout: Game Over

[Riddle]

I was thinking he could be an indy Zensei.

Unvote Vote Riddle

Really not diggin the aggressive gameplay. I feel like he's doing whatever he can to make sure he looks good and isn't the lynch today and gets a mislynch on someone else. To him it's all about surviving this first this the most obviously.

I'm doing whatever I can to find scum, and I'm fairly sure I have.

@Swiss

I wanted you to explain this:

This post made me laugh out loud.

I'm meta-ing you to f*ck now.

and this:

Doesn't make Riddle any less scummy

A) Why do you not want Gorditoboy lynched?

B) I unvoted him and you were going on at me because of it, saying I should have stuck to my guns and tried to get him lynched right then?

A) I dont think he is scum.

B) Yeah. Unvoting didn't help town since you didn't revote anyone else. I didn't see any point in unvoting other than appeasing Swiss which isn't town play.

Come one guys. X1 is definitely scum, lets lynch him.

 

[X1-12]

A) I dont think he is scum.

B) Yeah. Unvoting didn't help town since you didn't revote anyone else. I didn't see any point in unvoting other than appeasing Swiss which isn't town play.

Come one guys. X1 is definitely scum, lets lynch him.

I stopped pushing for his lynch when we'd been going for like 24 hours? I still want him lynched but I was just agreeing to wait. Once frozen is up and active I will start my whole case again, Its a good one. All you appear to be saying is that I should have tried to get him quicklynched right then.

 

[The_Guide]

Just to let everyone know, X1 is at L-2.

 

[CT Chia]

yea can we get some mod vote counts and stuff?

 

[X1-12]

I think Riddle, Guide and swiss are voting for me
Chibo is voting Riddle

That is all as far as I know

 

[CT Chia]

nvm just saw the mods post last page

 

[CT Chia]

not liking the exchange with x1 and people and uhg idk, it's not that i think hes particularly that bad, but i dont have a good read on him and wouldn't mind seeing him go, especially so we can get a solid lynch today

@Guide idk I just get a town feeling from your posts. no need to go into too much detail

riddle pushing us really hard on x1 isnt helping

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Just counted votes.

1 Chibo- Riddle
2 Riddle- X1
3 X1-
4 Frozen-
5 Gordito-
6 Guide- X1
7 Zensei-
8 Swiss- X1

If I'm not mistaken, that's correct.

 

[The_Guide]

Assuming that Chibo is correct, a mislynch today will put us in lylo.

7 townies today, 1 scum.
5 townies tomorrow, 2 scum (lylo).
3 townies d3, 3 scum (game).

 

[X1-12]

I would like to point out before I go to sleep that I effectively unvoted and laid off Gordito so's not to quicklynch, Riddle now wants me to be lynched before all players have really posted?

 

[CT Chia]

Frozen is really aggravating me, can he be replaced?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Do we even have subs?

 

[Chaco]

Taco Time: 12:00pm Official Lunch Rush

"So busy today."

1. FYC ChiboSempai
2. Riddle-(1) Chibo
3. X1-12-(3) Guide, Riddle, Swiss
4. frozenflame751
5. GorditoBoy69
6. The_Guide
7. Zensei
8. Swiss

Not Voting-(5) X1-12, Gordito, Frozen, Zen

Store hours:
Open Friday July 9th @ 3pm to July 19th @ 3pm.

I'll talk to Frozen again.

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

Alright so I'm here. Finally.

Sorry for aggravating your Chibo. And everyone else for that matter. Being inactive is a **** move I'll man up to it. No johns.

Anyway, definitely agree that X-12 is the play today and am willing to vote for him but I don't wanna push for a rush lynch so I'll hold off on the vote for now because I wanna talk about some other stuff. Basically I think he has mad strong connections (really interesting stuff to read into with a flip in mind regarding his interactions with Swiss and Gordito)

Swiss is mad aggressive this game. Getting a slight town read but I could definitely see this as being a strong man mafia style. IGMEOY.

Having a hard time seeing gordito has scum. Leaning dumb on his earlier play and just some of his general stances. Really not getting any malicious intent from his admittedly lacking analysis.

I usually have a REALLY hard time reading Chibo and he's screaming town to me this game.

Zensei is coasting hardcore. This should be noted esp. if it continues into future days.

Chibo I think I know where you were coming from when you said you had reasons for provoking discussion of the setup. I'm REALLY curious to hear what you (and others) think of The Guide and Riddle coming strong out of the gates with "OMG IT 2 SCUM OBV Y R WE TALKING ABOUT THIS?" Definitely comes off as a knee jerk reaction to a pretty legitimate course of discussion so early in the game with such a small setup. 8 players is tiny and trying to gauge a setup (considering how little room for error there is balance wise in small games by virtue of sheer tightness of numbers) is definitely a much more viable topic of discussion this early than in a large game.

But yeah basically I'm guessing we probably have one anti-town recruiting role and maybe a town recruiter. I have a hard time seeing another anti-town killer in the game, but I could see maybe a non killing one. Not really too convinced of this though, I'm leaning mostly toward just a single anti-town recruiter.

Can people voting X1 give brief reasons for your current votes on him? I wanna make sure I didn't miss anything that people have said in their stances on him. This info is important for me to figure out how useful that flip will be.

So yeah, basically tl;dr major stuff I'm looking for: When should I drop my vote on X1, Chibo (primarily, but others too) what do you think of Riddle's and Guide's initial reactions to your setup Q, and what are the bread and butter basic LoAs that people have to justify X1 votes atm?

 

[Swiss]

Assuming that Chibo is correct, a mislynch today will put us in lylo.

7 townies today, 1 scum.
5 townies tomorrow, 2 scum (lylo).
3 townies d3, 3 scum (game).

Hm.

That seems unbalanced...

I'm pretty sure there must be other roles out there.

 

[Swiss]

@ Frozen - Voted X1 mainly due to tunnelling and a few bad posts.

 

[Riddle]

@Frozen, I voted X1 initially because of his unvote of GorditoBoy at Swiss' request. There are also further things that I would have voted for him, which are the bad posts Swiss mentioned

@Swiss can you clarify the things I asked you to in post 281?

 

[CT Chia]

@FF I don't like the initial reactions from people who were adamant about the whole 2 scum thing. That's why I tried to get answers from everyone initially so I can use it to help scumhunt. It's not the end all answer to who's scum, but it helps. Guide's obv not clear in my book, I just don't think he's the play today. I'm more than fine with Riddle going today also especially with his aggressive style.

Lay down the vote whenever you want FF cause I'm willing to hammer.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

@Frozen

How often are you going to be active in this thread? Don't get offended from me asking, I just want to get an answer from you now, instead of wondering wtf? Where's frozen? Thanks.

And wouldn't a two scum setup be an ideal thought for an 8 player game? I mean, I wasn't 100% positive, but I think 8 players would usually mean 2 scum, 6 pro town.

 

[The_Guide]

So, absolutely EVERYONE in this game is ok with an X1 lynch (been keeping track). What do y'all think of this?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Well, I don't want a lynch just yet. I mean, I don't want to rush into this. The day ends in six days.

 

[CT Chia]

What do you want to discuss then Gordito

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I want to discuss Riddle siding with everybody, mainly. If I can safely let that go for the day, then I'll feel better about lynching X1.

 

[CT Chia]

Examples plz. I saw people mentioning this but never really got it. I've been seeing Riddle's play as aggressive, not clingy.

 

[X1-12]

In the next ~30 mins to an hour I'm gonna post my extensive case on Gordito, If you still wish to lynch me afters well, whatever its a waste and pretty much lost the game for town considering they could win in 2 turns and already know not to try and recruit Chibo (yeah WIFOM I know blah blah) but now frozen has atleast posted I'm just gonna go right back to the start and pic up all of gordito's scummy actions and neatly present them to you

 

[The_Guide]

Um, Chibo? You're the one who brought the Riddle topic up. You even voted him.

Also, I really would like to hear what everyone thinks of the fact that everyone seems to be against X1.

 

[Swiss]

Meta-ing you as you have insanely different play styles in our two games.


Again, I got the games mixed up - which I admit is entirely my fault. I haven't found you to be particularly scummy, with the exception of a post here and there.




@ T_G - X1 seems to be the best lynch - but I think we would be fools to unanimously commit to it right now.

 

[Swiss]

Ninja'd by two posts:

I don't think we're being unreasonable against X1..and we are only new into this game.

Also everyone isn't against X1 - several people have yet to post on it, it seems to be the more active people against him.

 

[Swiss]

EBWOP

'game' should read 'day'

 

[The_Guide]

Yes, they are. Obviously, me, you, and Riddle are voting him. Frozen and Chibo have basicly said they're going to. Gordito has expressed suspicion of him in the past, as has Zensei. I'll go back and find their posts on the subject, if you want.

 

[The_Guide]

Gordito, Zensei, if your thoughts have changed regarding X1, speak your mind. Specifically, would you be ok with his lynch today?

 

[Swiss]

Hmm, K.

Does NOBODY think we're going on X1 a bit too hard?

 

[The_Guide]

Lolwut? Zensei has only posted 10 times in this game (7 more times than Frozen).

Dude needs to get active.

 

[Swiss]

Worst case scenario we could LaL.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I wouldn't mind his lynching today. I just know that if it were to happen right now, I wouldn't be a part of it. I want to see Riddle a bit more.

 

[Riddle]

GorditoBoy, I want you to build a case on me. You've posted like 239572897435 times that you think I'm "trying to get on everyones good side" but I want SPECIFIC examples of that.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

From memory and kind of skimming over the last few pages, these are the two sides I came up with. Either A:
Riddle's just doing the popular thing, like going against X1, while being very agressive.
Or B:
Riddle honestly believes X1 is scummy, and would like the lynch on him now.

Now, as far as the two mafia scum thing goes, I don't think it's fair to base your vote on that. I think that anybody and their mother would assume 8 players, 6 pro town, 2 scum. Hell, that was what I basically thought the game was. And I think you did a good job to change everybody's mind. And I'd think that if Riddle is scum, he'd say that he doesn't know what the setup can possiby be.

If I can be convinced that I can wait another day to think about Riddle, or be convinced that X1 is definitely scum, then I'll vote.

 

[Riddle]

That wasn't a specific example >.>

 

[Swiss]

Gordito, was your post ninja'd by Riddle?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Well, it's gonna sound pretty bad, but I went through the whole thread, and I can't find anything that actually looks like siding, but, for some reason, I just feel like it's the way you post.

I have a friend who is found to sweet and the cutest kid, to all of our teachers, and parents, but outside of those people, he's really a normal kid. He parties like a monster, drinks at parties, and he's basically a lot worse of a kid then he puts out for people.

Why did I tell this story? You remind me of him, for some reason. I can't put my finger on it, but since I really have no physical argument, besides that, then I guess there's really no reason to not vote X1, and just wait for later days to see what happens.

Vote: X1

What everybody's saying is true. Plus, a lot of your points are taken from other people. If I had more of an argument on Riddle, I wouldn't have voted that, but it is what it is.