[M-1, 10, 13] Taco City Takeout: Game Over

[X1-12]

I'm pretty sure Chibo asked this and almost everyone answered already?


@Chibo: What is this 'plan' thing to do with set-up? can you divulge a little bit more?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I'm pretty sure Chibo asked this and almost everyone answered already?


@Chibo: What is this 'plan' thing to do with set-up? can you divulge a little bit more?

I don't remember anything said by swiss or frozen. That's basically who I'm asking.

 

[CT Chia]

some ppl are being too quiet

 

[X1-12]

some ppl are being too quiet

what do you think of Gordito's last 5 posts?

 

[CT Chia]

As I already stated, Chibo, based on Gordito's actions. beyond that I have no real reads as of yet.

what do u mean me based on gordito's actions

No I'm just link dang, harsh. Way to put it out there that I'm the bad guy.

Umm... I was just messing around. I wasn't being asked anything. So... I'll stop here.

What do you guys think of the setup?

This is what I don't like the most of his posts, I've been trying to make the setup a point here for a bit and he's even answered the question. I have no idea why he's asking this. Out of ideas and frantically trying to look active to everyone? Trying to pass off my potential thing as his?

Either way it doesn't matter too much to have everyone answer my question, it's more for helping to get a read on everyone so they don't harp off what I have to say, and now it's annoying that a couple people haven't answered

 

[CT Chia]

EBWOP at the end

because I have a feeling that I know what we're dealing with

 

[X1-12]

what do u mean me based on gordito's actions

Idk what RVS stands for, but why are you so quick to vote? And it just so happens to be the same person as ChiboSempai? Possible two scum?

Vote: Swiss

this post makes me insta-think he is teamed with either Swiss or Chibo, its almost identical to my first post in newbie 7 where I accused Isu and Swiss (Isu was my scu buddy) of a mafia team, I think its almost instinctive to do so. He also mentions your name like 3 times in consecutive posts just after that (I discounted posts with no content)

you're not doing a good job of it with your wifom lol

Re-reading this looks like a bit scum-team to me here. There's another one of yours that just says 'I don't like this post' which feels like your telling you scum-buddy they're doing it wrong.

 

[Swiss]

EBWOP at the end

because I have a feeling that I know what we're dealing with

The game has stalled WAY too much.

Go ahead and make your point.

 

[Swiss]

I don't remember anything said by swiss or frozen. That's basically who I'm asking.

I gave my opinion on the setup (remember the whole power role malarkie?). 2 scum is obv.


Start doing something.

 

[CT Chia]

Re-reading this looks like a bit scum-team to me here. There's another one of yours that just says 'I don't like this post' which feels like your telling you scum-buddy they're doing it wrong.

lol if you really think could be the case? why would any scum team give each other pointers in public when they're allowed to talk outside the thread

am i not allowed to call out someones bad play showing that im not thinking good of them? and im to be chastised for him voting the same person as me after me? thats ridiculous

it doesnt even matter though because im almost sure we're not dealing with any scum team in this game

 

[Swiss]

What do you mean?

One scum?

Indies?

 

[X1-12]

lol if you really think could be the case? why would any scum team give each other pointers in public when they're allowed to talk outside the thread

am i not allowed to call out someones bad play showing that im not thinking good of them? and im to be chastised for him voting the same person as me after me? thats ridiculous

yeah I can understand you not going with this, its just a real strong vibe I am getting.

it doesnt even matter though because im almost sure we're not dealing with any scum team in this game

what.


just what.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Wanna give ur opinion on the setup Chibo, instead of just giving subtle clues?

 

[The_Guide]

Pretty sure that Frozen is the only one who hasn't replied to you, Chibo. I think you've got enough information to tell us whats on your mind.

 

[The_Guide]

Squawk Squawk Squawk!

 

[CT Chia]

Call me ridiculous for claiming this early, but I was just in a game recently where we were dealing with the same type of scum. Some townies had knowledge of it but never said so and it ended up screwing us over big time.

I am a Steak Taco, a Patriot

As a patriot, my ability is that I am unable to be recruited. This means one of three things:
1. There is a town mason
2. There is a mafia recruiter
3. There is both a town mason and mafia recruiter

The difference between 2 and 3 is w/e, what's important here is knowing what were up against.

Is there a possibility of there being a town mason only? That makes no sense for my role. Doesn't make sense to hurt town like that in such a small game for my role to be hey you can't help town. And even if that is the case, by claiming the town recruiter would know not to target me and waste their recruit.

But with the unlikeness of that were dealing with option 2 or 3.

Is there going to be a 2 person scum team that has a recruiter? Lol no, one mislynch today and we would be at lylo tomorrow in a TERRIBLE situation (4 town vs 3 scum), it just wouldn't happen that way.

So are we dealing with a single mafia recruiter here? I'm willing to bet money we are. Is this the only town threat we have? Not guatanteed. It's very possible to be dealing with a single mafia recruiter + a independant which makes a lot more sense.

So for me asking everyone what they thoguht the setup was:

FoS to anyone that said a 2 person scum team

Besides the fact that it's never a good idea to guess a setup in a closed game with 0 information as it's going to make believe think theyre up against something they arent and potentially play differently, a lone scum recruiter could be trying to lead us down the wrong track with making us think there is a 2 person scum team, which changes it a lot. If there isn't a killing indie like a serial killer, then we're not gonna have another flip to play off tomorrow from the night, only what we get today. That, and the scum team will be stronger.

 

[The_Guide]

FoS to anyone that said a 2 person scum team

Didn't everyone say this?

 

[CT Chia]

If thats the case *shrug*

but obviously those that were more sure of it are worse in my book

 

[Swiss]

Didn't everyone say this?

All of us but Frozen.

I believe Chibo.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

A few things.

First of all, are you allowed to say your role?

Second of all, if that's true, then that changes everything. There has to be just one mafia recruiter. It'd be pointless to have a town mason and mafia recruiter. That just means that in the end, it'll be an obvious stalemate. Unless there's the off-chance of there being a cult leader, two mafia, you, and the rest townies. But I doubt that.

 

[X1-12]

Chibo, do you think this mafia recruiter will be able to NK AND recruit? if so we could quite easily lose after only 2 days ¬¬ especially since you've come out as patriot

I also think your FoS is silly, I think people saying not 2 scum would have been bad play.

 

[The_Guide]

All of us but Frozen.

I believe Chibo.

I just checked back, and interestingly enough, you didn't say it either. You just talked about the possibility of a resurrecter.

Unless I missed something, of course.

 

[X1-12]

A few things.

First of all, are you allowed to say your role?

yes but its not always recommended and people can lie about it, you are not allowed to screenshot or quote your role PM though.

Second of all, if that's true, then that changes everything. There has to be just one mafia recruiter. It'd be pointless to have a town mason and mafia recruiter. That just means that in the end, it'll be an obvious stalemate. Unless there's the off-chance of there being a cult leader, two mafia, you, and the rest townies. But I doubt that.

please explain bolded bit

 

[CT Chia]

People saying no idea it's a closed setup is the most appropriate thing. Why assume what you don't know. This more targets people who were "sure" of it

And no, mafias not going to be able to NK and recruit, that's ridiculous.

If there's night killing, I'd wager it being from a serial killer or something

 

[The_Guide]

Unless the recruiter decides to forgo his kill.

Yay, WIFOM! :D

 

[The_Guide]

EBWOP: Kill should have been conversion.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

@ X1
Assume all lynches are toward townies.
Day 1: 8 players, lynch 1, making 7. If Chibo's right, 4 townie, 1 Chibo, 1 town mason, and mafia recruiter.

Night 1: 7 players. 3 townie, 1 recruited, 1 Chibo, town mason, 1 mafia member and mafia recruiter.

Day 2: 7 players, lynch 1, making 6. 2 townie, 1 recruited, 1 Chibo, town mason, 1 mafia member and mafia recruiter.

Assume mason recruits mafia member.

Night 2: 5 players. 1 townie, 1 Chibo and 2 mafia member and mafia recruiter. Win for Mafia.

There are a bunch of possibilities. The game would be better off with just a mafia recruiter.

 

[X1-12]

hmm, I was thinking that mafia can NK so long as a goon is alive? assuming the recruited player becomes a goon. I don't really know, I've never been part of a game with masons/recruiters

 

[The_Guide]

At this point, I'm inclined to believe Chibo. With that said, we know that there's a patriot and a scum recruiter. Aside from that, we really don't have much else to go on.

Chibo, care to give an outline on your feelings about us?

 

[Swiss]

I just checked back, and interestingly enough, you didn't say it either. You just talked about the possibility of a resurrecter.

Unless I missed something, of course.

Wow, to be honest - I did think it.

Maybe the scum recruiter can recruit only on even/odd nights, I've seen that before.

 

[X1-12]

Wow, to be honest - I did think it.

Maybe the scum recruiter can recruit only on even/odd nights, I've seen that before.

perhaps he can NightKill OR recruit? I think that would be more likely

 

[X1-12]

There may be an indy - we shouldn't assume there isn't - it might not be a killing role.

I think this is all swiss said about the set-up. Frozen was the only one not to answer at all

 

[The_Guide]

Go back a bit farther. He tried to start a conversation about set-up before Chibo, because he noticed that the players who died N1 had power-roles.

 

[Riddle]

Chibo, are you town alligned?

What would a rushed lynch gain for town? it would probably gey me lycnhed tomorrow which essentially makes that 2 wasted days.

A day isn't wasted if we lynch scum, which you seem so sure GorditoBoy is. And he isn't even close to being lynched. You could always unvote later, but unvoting at the time you did made no sense for town.

The way you said that makes it sound like you know GorditoBoy is town.

 

[Xivii]

Wait Chibo what's the difference between what you're saying and a cult?

 

[The_Guide]

Semantics, nothing more.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Isn't the difference that mafia can choose to either kill or recruit (with a mafia recruiter, of course), while the cult can only recruit?

 

[CT Chia]

I have a good feeling about Guide, and Gordito and Zensei's unknowing nature is a bit of relief.

I would more or less be ok with any of the other 4 going today.

 

[Riddle]

How 'bout you actually scumhunt a bit Chibo?

And, again, are you town alligned?

 

[CT Chia]

Yes I'm town aligned -_-