[M-1, 10, 13] Taco City Takeout: Game Over

[Swiss]

Ignore my question at the end.

 

[Riddle]

@Swiss: Chibo, Frozen, and I could be classified as IC's. Also, your definition of 'scummy' seems more to me like anti-town than scummy. Remember, we are trying to find scum not people who harm town.

Riddle: I don't believe that Riddle's scum as much as I think the top two are. But, to me, it kind of looks like Riddle is trying to be on everybody's side. It's a good sign of independence, and that peer pressure doesn't hit him. But I just have a bit of feeling that I can't justify too well. It's just a personal speculation.

It's too early in this game for me to trust anyone. Theres mafia out there and you want to avoid being pressured by them. It would be nice if you did the same.

You're other cases aren't very solid either, but I'd love to see how the targetted respond to them.

You should probably stop relying on hunches and provide solid evidence though.

@Swiss

As far as I can tell, your points against me consist of you don't like me still pushing the wagon? well I don't want people to forget who to lynch and get sidetracked, Its been known to happen. Since you ask nicely I will hold off for now but I hope everyone remembers gordito's scummy play, even his responses to my fairly simple questions seem irrelevant or illogical


Unvote

Summary:
I wan't gordito lynched but am willing to wait till later in the day. Please don't forget how scummy this player is.

Ugh, I don't particularly like this post. If you're sure Gordito is scum then you should be trying to carry his wagon. It'd be nice if you attempted to provide us with new information to convince us to also lynch him, but either way you should still be on there. Why did you let Swiss convince you to unvote GorditoBoy?

And the same question I asked Swiss goes to you as well:

What is it that you define as scummy?

 

[Riddle]

2 points:

I wasn't 'lucky' - my case made sense. Your replies didn't - so people wagoned you. You are LUCKY there is debate over your playstyle. Had I or any other player here done that - they'd be a dead man.

Chibo backing out was town play. RVS means you place a vote for little or no reason, when he saw a wagon approaching you, he backed off, as he didn't want to be immediately associated with a wagon. (This does not mean X1's or my play was scummy, as they were not the reverse of Chibo's, FYI). He'll answer the setup question - waiting on answers from other players is not a scum tell unless it is clear stalling.


Gordito - if you had to lynch a player now, who would it be?

I would have preferred if you let Chibo defend himself. I'd rather see what he chooses to say as it could give town valuable information.

 

[Swiss]

@ Riddle - was that first quote not made by Gordito, not yourself?

Agreed that anti-town=/=scummy but it is a good indication, it's just how I like to scumhunt.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I don't like to think that people do things for no reason, even if it is an RVS. RVS is a weak reason. I don't think people should do something as impacting as vote unless there's something reasonable to back it up.

 

[Swiss]

I would have preferred if you let Chibo defend himself. I'd rather see what he chooses to say as it could give town valuable information.

Fair, I hate it when players do that. On the plus side - I want to ask him thid.

Chibo - why did you not place a vote on Gordito when the accusations and evidence were clear to see? Why did you specify he was playing anti town yet not vote him? It could easily be said you were sitting comfortably in the middle ground - scum play.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

The first quote was mine.

 

[Riddle]

@ Riddle - was that first quote not made by Gordito, not yourself?

Agreed that anti-town=/=scummy but it is a good indication, it's just how I like to scumhunt.

Lol yeah I fail, that should be GorditoBoy.

Thats fine, but just be sure to look for motivation. People have reasons for what you do and you have to find these.

I don't like to think that people do things for no reason, even if it is an RVS. RVS is a weak reason. I don't think people should do something as impacting as vote unless there's something reasonable to back it up.

Well they are, town OR scum, so you might as well get used to it. People throw around meaningless votes in RVS, its just what happens.

And I meant to vote X1-12 in my last post so:

Vote: X1-12

 

[The_Guide]

Chibo, Zensei, Frozen, what's your read on X1-12? Scummy, towny, neutral?

 

[Riddle]

I also, want to note that while I don't fid Gordito scummy per se, he is definitely anti-town and a liability, so if we cannot come to a consensus on anyone else I feel he should be the play at days end.

 

[Riddle]

Guide, whats your read on X1?

 

[Xivii]

Gordito, voting is towns best weapon. The best way to get information about someone scummy is to pressure them with your votes. You can always unvote so why not use it?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

@Riddle

Idk, I just don't like it, and I just don't want to be put on the spot because of RVS. I mean, yea, I guess there's nothing I can do to stop it. It'll just happen... But I don't want to be left unheard.

 

[Xivii]

this game is hella active .-.

Chibo, Zensei, Frozen, what's your read on X1-12? Scummy, towny, neutral?

X1 is definitely in my top suspicions right now, especially after his unvote. Just seems like he was trying to make an excuse to get out of his tunneling.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

@Zen

Voting's a powerful tool. All I'm saying is that you shouldn't just abuse it, especially since we don't know anything about anybody. What would you have done differently from me after Swiss RVS'd me?

 

[The_Guide]

@ Riddle: fair question. Tbh, I find him one of the scummier players in the game. Obviously, I think that he was coasting on the wagon, but I might have been able to forgive that, IF he hadn't unvoted Gordito.

 

[The_Guide]

Hmm. Thats interesting.

 

[Xivii]

@Zen

Voting's a powerful tool. All I'm saying is that you shouldn't just abuse it, especially since we don't know anything about anybody. What would you have done differently from me after Swiss RVS'd me?

Hm yeah that's true, I never random vote either. As for what I would have done differently: I would have just ignored it as it was an RVS vote.

It looks more like you simply didn't understand that rather than complete OMGUS imo.

 

[X1-12]

Ugh, I don't particularly like this post. If you're sure Gordito is scum then you should be trying to carry his wagon. It'd be nice if you attempted to provide us with new information to convince us to also lynch him, but either way you should still be on there. Why did you let Swiss convince you to unvote GorditoBoy?

In my eyes, Swiss's post was saying, 'X1, you're being a bit bone-headed about this, we should leave it for now and find out who is scum buddy is/get something more out of this day' which does make sense and is something I should have realised myself already.

What is it that you define as scummy?

play that is typical or indicative of being Mafia, such as incongruity, causing confusion etc.

X1 is definitely in my top suspicions right now, especially after his unvote. Just seems like he was trying to make an excuse to get out of his tunneling.

I know I was tunnelling but it was working... Read the bit above as to why I unvoted

 

[Riddle]

Why not keep your vote on, if your plan was to lynch him anyway? What purpose does unvoting serve?

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

5 pages already....

Being in 3 games and hosting one is the worst lol....

Yeah no way I'll be able to post anything now without blatantly skimming. Expect me to be caught up by tomorrow night hopefully.

 

[The_Guide]

Thats a lot to handle. I can't even deal with two games at once, lol.

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

I usually refrain from signing up for more than 2 games at a time but Marshy got me hyped up and got me to /in Dgames mafia which ****ing filled in a matter of hours so it stacked on top of this one and MXC elimination, which were the two games I originally only planned on playing in. Oh wellz.

 

[Chaco]

Taco Time: 12:00pm Official Lunch Rush

"So busy today."

1. FYC ChiboSempai
2. Riddle
3. X1-12-(2) Guide, Riddle
4. frozenflame751-(1) Chibo
5. GorditoBoy69
6. The_Guide
7. Zensei
8. Swiss

Not Voting-(5) X1-12, Swiss, Gordito, Frozen, Zen

Store hours:
Open Friday July 9th @ 3pm to July 19th @ 3pm.

 

[Chaco]

Oh yeah, I unofficially prodded Frozen. I'm guessing you see he's here though.

 

[Riddle]

Frozen, could you tell us what you think the set-up is? (number of scum, prs, etc)

Chibo has some sort of plan and I want to know what it is, but it requires everyone answering that question.

 

[X1-12]

Why not keep your vote on, if your plan was to lynch him anyway? What purpose does unvoting serve?

find out who his scum buddy is/get something more out of this day'

pressure others? get more info? that kind of thing.

 

[Riddle]

But you aren't pressuring others or getting more info. You just have your vote on nobody. And at this rate GorditoBoy probably won't get lynched, which is clearly not what you want. I can understand if you had voted someone else when you unvoted but you didn't.

So I ask you again, what did unvoting accomplish for you/town?

 

[The_Guide]

To add on to riddle's question, who are your top suspects (after gordito, ofc)?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Well, ouch. That hurt.

 

[Swiss]

Well, ouch. That hurt.

What hurt?

 

[X1-12]

But you aren't pressuring others or getting more info. You just have your vote on nobody. And at this rate GorditoBoy probably won't get lynched, which is clearly not what you want. I can understand if you had voted someone else when you unvoted but you didn't.

So I ask you again, what did unvoting accomplish for you/town?

we have 8 days, I thought I'd someone else chime in. Frozen's already said he's gonna re-read then post. Chibo also has a 'plan' which I'd like to hear


What would a rushed lynch gain for town? it would probably gey me lycnhed tomorrow which essentially makes that 2 wasted days.

To add on to riddle's question, who are your top suspects (after gordito, ofc)?

As I already stated, Chibo, based on Gordito's actions. beyond that I have no real reads as of yet.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

What hurt?

(after gordito, ofc)?

10hurtfeelings

 

[X1-12]

10hurtfeelings

you're not actually trying to defend your case.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

No I'm just link dang, harsh. Way to put it out there that I'm the bad guy.

 

[The_Guide]

I didn't say that you were the bad guy. I said that X1-12 THINKS you're the bad guy.

Big difference there, bud.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Oh. I thought you were just saying to frozen hey, gorditos the bad guy.

nvm then

 

[X1-12]

Gordito's last 3 posts all reek of scum to me. either distracting from the topic or appealing to emotion

 

[Swiss]

Gordito, cut the BS or we'll just lynch you.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Umm... I was just messing around. I wasn't being asked anything. So... I'll stop here.

What do you guys think of the setup?