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LuCKy's mini sonic impression for new sonic users...

Truce

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All this really depends on what you define as "good". You can't use Sonic in the same way as any other character, his moves just aren't strong enough on their own to beat your opponent.

But he's fast enough that his mindgames can be unparalleled. Lag is one of the least of Sonic's worries. If the player can predict and manipulate their opponent enough, Sonic's the bomb.

So really, it all depends on the player's skill, which is the way Smash should be.
 

memphischains

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What happened to this thread? I thought we were talking about how Sonic sucks. (Which, he does, don't kid yourself)

Also, I would like to make a note to all who want to go on this "journey", (with the execption of ONLY A FEW) your going to fail.

"why memphis?! I practive everyday! My sonic is good gosh darn it!"

no, no hes not. he sucks. your sonic sucks and you should accept it now.

i could go on this massive tangent why, but im not going to waste anymore of my time. but will i will say in short, sonic is not a character you can just pick up and play. sonic is also not a character that you will be able to play in a few weeks. and as a sonic player, you should be able to understand what im say.

just pick up meta knight
 

Boxob

Smash Champion
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What happened to this thread? I thought we were talking about how Sonic sucks. (Which, he does, don't kid yourself)

Also, I would like to make a note to all who want to go on this "journey", (with the execption of ONLY A FEW) your going to fail.

"why memphis?! I practive everyday! My sonic is good gosh darn it!"

no, no hes not. he sucks. your sonic sucks and you should accept it now.

i could go on this massive tangent why, but im not going to waste anymore of my time. but will i will say in short, sonic is not a character you can just pick up and play. sonic is also not a character that you will be able to play in a few weeks. and as a sonic player, you should be able to understand what im say.

just pick up meta knight
You know, about half the time I see you posting, it's you just bashing someone or something about a character or a persons thread or some ****, if you're going to play a character and be 'good' as him, don't go around telling everyone else that they're going to suck as him. If he sucks that bad, how about YOU go use metaknight o:

Your pink name doesn't make you any better than anyone else.
 

Miggz

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What happened to this thread? I thought we were talking about how Sonic sucks. (Which, he does, don't kid yourself)

Also, I would like to make a note to all who want to go on this "journey", (with the execption of ONLY A FEW) your going to fail.

"why memphis?! I practive everyday! My sonic is good gosh darn it!"

no, no hes not. he sucks. your sonic sucks and you should accept it now.

i could go on this massive tangent why, but im not going to waste anymore of my time. but will i will say in short, sonic is not a character you can just pick up and play. sonic is also not a character that you will be able to play in a few weeks. and as a sonic player, you should be able to understand what im say.

just pick up meta knight
I find it humeral that you're a smash DEBATER but you give ppl such a vague response and expect people to believe in what you are saying. I don't think you have the right to tell ppl they going to fail, first of all. People like you were saying the same thing when the very first technical fox (with the waveshines, aerial to wave shines etc) was born. Saying stuff like "oh, your fox will never be able to do this blah blah." Sure, majority of the fox are nowhere near Silent Wolf's tech skill, but nonetheless...all solid foxes can perform waveshines and aerial to waveshines, a massvie bunch. And why is this? HARD WORK and refusing to believe in negativ comments like yours. Ok sure, Sonic isn't the best character, but he isn't a bad character like Bowser in melee. Yeah, perfect example...you see your comment would be absolutely correct if you was talking about melee bowser, hence why gimpy is like the only hot bowser. To me, this doesn't apply to Sonic, least not to that degree.

I'm with you that sonic isn't a sheik (pick up and play character) but I guarantee there will be allot of successful players. For one, no real tech skill. All you really got to do is play smart and know what moves are needed when see fit.

Keep in mind I'm not mad, just debating is all. Don't take it personally.
 

Spin Dashie

Smash Cadet
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What happened to this thread? I thought we were talking about how Sonic sucks. (Which, he does, don't kid yourself)

Also, I would like to make a note to all who want to go on this "journey", (with the execption of ONLY A FEW) your going to fail.

"why memphis?! I practive everyday! My sonic is good gosh darn it!"

no, no hes not. he sucks. your sonic sucks and you should accept it now.

i could go on this massive tangent why, but im not going to waste anymore of my time. but will i will say in short, sonic is not a character you can just pick up and play. sonic is also not a character that you will be able to play in a few weeks. and as a sonic player, you should be able to understand what im say.

just pick up meta knight
Just because 1 person went ahead to say Sonic sucks, doesn't necessarily mean everyone else should go ahead and follow his opinion. "Sonic sucks" to me is a bit extreme, because I can name a few others who are worse. Yes, he's not that good and quite possibly a bad character because of his higher learning curve but he does not suck, and thats what im going to accept at this moment.

When it comes to higher tier characters, a good Sonic player will have to outplay the higher tier which is possible and usually the case for every character.
 

Garuda

Smash Ace
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Sonic is just fine. Combo a lot and then bair. It's that simple. I'm not kidding either.
 

controlfreak7

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Indeed, Sonic can be good in a skilled players hand but it won't exactly work because he just isn't good. I mean, is there a character with less kill potential in the entire smash series?
lol umm yah... brawl samus...

sweet another claim made. I'm trying to be the next gimpyfish and play the character(s) that people think are not good and show that they can be =P....
 

R4ZE

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idk normally it would be fun to make a big rant on why sonic is not that bad, but ive done that a milliono times.... and im in an action kinda mood.


so... memphis... i challange you to a game of chance.

thats right



this will prove!!!!! .... somthing... thats for sure =D
 

memphischains

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idk normally it would be fun to make a big rant on why sonic is not that bad, but ive done that a milliono times.... and im in an action kinda mood.


so... memphis... i challange you to a game of chance.

thats right



this will prove!!!!! .... somthing... thats for sure =D
lol, sure i guess. i'm down.

i wasn't even trying to troll with that post at all, and i wasnt saying it because lucky said sonic wasnt good. i really dont think hes good, hes really bad. i do troll sometimes but usually its a poor attempt at humor

that was acually a sarcastic post btw. im glad people still have some humor on these forums. i guess i just wont try and bring humor to anything anymore.

me and lucky did acually had a small talk about his unplayiblility and people wanting to play him last week or something. we want to help, and im pretty sure that evident. he was talking about makeing a how to combo vid and i thought it was a great idea.

and bash me, whatever, doesnt bother me. and meta knight is the melee marth of brawl, so that too was also a joke. soooooo yeah im not cool
 

rhamin

Smash Rookie
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Mar 20, 2008
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i recomend you watch some of my vids:lick: i have a nice lil technique video too

click my sig.....lol yeahuhzz
yea dude i've been checking out your vids and matches as well as InterimOfZeal. I love that tech vid it helped a lot.
 

verditude

Smash Journeyman
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Nov 15, 2007
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My thoughts on why Sonic ain't good...

I believe that Sonic was balanced with two things in mind: 1. Free for alls, and 2. The smash ball.

Let's start with free for alls. Sonic is very able to just run away in a FFA match, due to his speed. His recovery and fast running speed allows him to kill steal effectively and not be hit easily while everyone else beats each other up.

The smash ball is my other point. Sonic's speed allows him to get to the ball easily, and he is balanced by being less able to break it than many other characters. His FS is amazing and allows him to get a LOT of KO's in FFA, not so much in 1v1. In fact, (this is probably the most important point) Sonic's FS is so good at getting KOs in FFA that the devs made (almost) none of his other moves able to easily KO, as a balancing move. You ban the smash ball, you take away Sonic's main source of kills.

The combination of these balancing factors makes Soic subpar in tournament play.
 

Mushroomring

Smash Lord
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Sonic doesn't need to kill in ffa's. He just needs a stage he can homing stall on and possibly be fighting someone who cant hit him while he's down there.

Xtinction I like your sig btw.

I wish I had a good pic of Sonic's bair....
 

thx

Smash Ace
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he is not good.....



dont care what anyone says now.........he dos'nt suck *i might be lying to myself* but he just is'nt good

i totally agree i LOVE sonic dont get me wrong and i still rep and play him a lot and consider him one of my mains but hes just not good its like trying to kill a kid with a toothpick when theres a gun right next to you...its not bad you can have fun challenging yourself but its just too hard lmao

ive been picking up other characters but i practice sonic the most dedication towards that hedgehog (i can play mad characters better than him but i love the lil guy)
 

Mushroomring

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Windlord made my sig. Funny cuz he added the Falcon since he didnt know if I wanted it or not and it turned out better then I thought it'd be. It gets the point of the sig through pretty clearly, Sonic's too fast
 

Suna

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I think sonic good It's just that I have a hard time trying to finish people off in 1v1.

lol I just lost a Gamebattles match with an Ike,and I could have won but I coulden't finish him

wow I haven't posted here in a while
 
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