London Melee and Brawl Ranbat June 27th

[VA]

P.Pro gold. I've played AmcD btw

Did you win?

obviously not lol.

 

[Professor Pro]

P.Pro gold. I've played AmcD btw

................And. Is this meant to be an achievement?

Did you win?

Does that guy win anything lol? Not just in smash, in life.

As for melee, I might enter, they say the best way to get good is to get whupped.

That and actually realising where your mistakes are AND dedication to get better at the game.
Im gonna enter the brawl tourn for the lulz. Just to see where I place, I know I wont place high but it will still be funny lol. Im just gonna play gay. I might even let who ever I am playing win if I get too bored so people get ready to get a by in the tourn.

 

[Frozenwave]

For info look at the 1st page people hello?

Koop should i sign you up for Melee+brawl

 

[Koop_88]

Yeah mate go for it.

Haven't played either in months >:D

 

[Frozenwave]

ok Koops you are signed up

 

[Professor Pro]

Oh yeah B.Bill I think I figured out a bit more of your journey you know. I dont know what stop your getting dropped off at on the Jubilee line but if you get on it go on it and get off at London Bridge where you transfer to the Northern Line. Once you are on that line stayed on it until South Wimbledon and then somehow from South Wimbledon you have to work out how to get to Wimbledon train station (not underground) which is where I go to get on the train to Surbiton. I can help you by picking you up at South Wimbledon if I find it but this is the only journey I could figure out. Btw if you get a Ј2 travelcard at Jubilee which I think you can you can travel everywhere with that. I hope that help if not just hit me up and I will try to find another way.

Sorry to post this again but this is the thread the journey is meant for anyway.

 

[J0RDY]

For info look at the 1st page people hello?

Koop should i sign you up for Melee+brawl

Yeah I know 6th of Sept, but what Time does the tourney start on saturday? Sorry if it's obvious, It's just quite important for me to know <_<

 

[VA]

Also it would be pretty good to at least have a link to the rule sets. Brawl tournament rules sets are disputed as it's so early on and there is a lot of personalisation to these rules. The suggested rule set is up so how are you choosing to do it?

Also UK uses different stage rules for different melee tournaments. What are the ones used here?

 

[The Last Dragon]

that wasteman 4stock can't come...

 

[Professor Pro]

that wasteman 4stock can't come...

lool Why cant he come, I wanted him to get ranked iswell?
Can you still make it though? Dont get scared because 4stock isnt going lol.

 

[Frozenwave]

What about the old usuals, can you guys make it?

Chrisboi
FrostBYTE
Edwin

 

[Frozenwave]

OK Regarding about the stage lists im just going to use LMT Lists

Random Stages:

Pokemon Stadium
Final Destination
Dreamland 64

Counterpick Stages:

Yoshi's Story
Fountain of Dreams
Rainbow Ride
Brinstar
Mute City
Green Greens
Pokemon Stadium
Poke Floats
Battlefield
Final Destination
Dream Land N64
Kongo Jungle N64
Corneria
Onett
Jungle Japes
Princess Peach's Castle

Everything else is BANNED

Interesting enough I thought Fountain of Dreams, Yoshi story and Frostbytefield was on random =/

For Brawl can someone link current Smashboards list?

 

[VA]

That's the thing Frozen, the list is only a rough guide line, it's up to tournament organisers discretion as to which stages are legal.

But here is the recommended rule set. It's up to you to decide.

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=187736

 

[Frozenwave]

Random

Battlefield
Smashville
Final Destination
Pokemon stadium 1
Lylat Cruise
Yoshi's Island

Counter
Castle Siege
Delfino
Halberd
Brinstar
Corneria
Distant Planet
Frigate Orpheon
Green Hill Zone
Jungle Japes
Luigi's Mansion
Norfair
Pictochat
Pirate Ship
Pokémon Stadium 2
Rainbow Cruise
Yoshi's Island (Pipes)

OK Thats the list I think should be run for Brawl, however...im not too sure on the 'walkoffstagedeath' stages (Mushroom Kingdom in SSBM for reference). Should they be banned or Counter cause personally I'd ban them, but you guys need your say as well

 

[VA]

They were banned in melee cos of waveshining. People have an aversion to them because they make the game different to the usual platform style of playing. But you legalised Onett in melee (strange) so why not in Brawl hm? they have no broken features like Onett for Fox in melee so with it imo.

 

[Professor Pro]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-AiPgOvmAo

Ken On Survivor!

Only reason why I will watch this show lol. Does anyone know what channel this comes on?

 

[VA]

lol it's not british. and did charles tell you this?

 

[Professor Pro]

OK Regarding about the stage lists im just going to use LMT Lists

Random Stages:

Pokemon Stadium
Final Destination
Dreamland 64

Counterpick Stages:

Yoshi's Story
Fountain of Dreams
Rainbow Ride
Brinstar
Mute City
Green Greens
Pokemon Stadium
Poke Floats
Battlefield
Final Destination
Dream Land N64
Kongo Jungle N64
Corneria
Onett
Jungle Japes
Princess Peach's Castle

Everything else is BANNED

Interesting enough I thought Fountain of Dreams, Yoshi story and Frostbytefield was on random =/

For Brawl can someone link current Smashboards list?

Onett
Princess Peach's Castle

Should be banned imo.

 

[VA]

Make these stages melee neutral:

Neutral Stages: Final Destination, Battlefield, Yoshi's Story, Fountain of Dreams, Kirby 64 and Pokemon Stadium.

That's what they do in N.America. Also cut off Peach's ***** House, Onett and Corneria.

Ew rainbow cruise how did that get on there!?

 

[Frozenwave]

Yeah Rainbow Cruise for Neutral stage, get out


Random Stages:

Pokemon Stadium
Final Destination
Dreamland 64
Fountain of Dreams
Yoshi's Story

Counterpick Stages:

Yoshi's Story

Rainbow Ride
Brinstar
Mute City
Green Greens
Pokemon Stadium
Poke Floats
Battlefield
Final Destination
Dream Land N64
Kongo Jungle N64
Jungle Japes

All Random stages can be used as counterpick as well
Everything else is BANNED

For Melee I actually didnt see onett, cause I trusted LMT stages to be decent ohlol

Random

Battlefield
Smashville
Final Destination
Pokemon stadium 1
Lylat Cruise
Yoshi's Island

Counter
Delfino
Halberd
Brinstar
Corneria
Frigate Orpheon
Jungle Japes
Luigi's Mansion
Norfair
Pictochat
Pirate Ship
Pokémon Stadium 2
Rainbow Cruise
Yoshi's Island (Pipes)

All Random stages can be used as counterpick as well
Everything else is banned, hows that for brawl

 

[Professor Pro]

I have no major problem with them 5 stages on random but I think lets just leave it as it is. C'mon now.... who has rainbow cruise on random lol.
The LAST one I feel should be taken off is Jungle Japes and then all of them stages are alright. We should have a list at the Ranbats for all the new people who dont know counterpick stuff.

 

[Fuzzyness]

no pokemon stadium 1 on random, the edges are **** + the windmill can ruin games

 

[Professor Pro]

no pokemon stadium 1 on random, the edges are **** + the windmill can ruin games

Pokemon stadium is always on random so it stays on, those 5 stage shouldnt be on random anyway tbh as they serve a big advantage and disadvantage for some characters such as FoD and defintely Yoshi Story. The regular 3 stages on random are FD, Dreamland and 64 and it should stay as that.

Random Stages:

Pokemon Stadium
Final Destination
Dreamland 64

Counterpick Stages:

Yoshi's Story
Fountain of Dreams
Rainbow Ride
Brinstar
Mute City
Pokemon Stadium
Poke Floats
Battlefield
Final Destination
Dream Land N64
Kongo Jungle N64

This is sensible.

 

[The Last Dragon]

my uni starts on the 3rd, so i dont know about the 6th...

 

[Frozenwave]

F it. Those stages are final, everyone start printing them out lol

 

[Professor Pro]

F it. Those stages are final, everyone start printing them out lol

Your gay to leave it like that lol. If you want to have a fair even tournament you should just put on all the stages which were orginal laied out for London which is in the London thread. Im not coming anymore if that is your desicion

 

[Fuzzyness]

no flaking guys, or i'll just mock you all.

Im expecting hard games against prof and frost

 

[Professor Pro]

no flaking guys, or i'll just mock you all.

Im expecting hard games against prof and frost

Yeah i'm expecting some really good games iswell, and some games which should be getting recording. It is extremely unlikely that I am flaking and if anything comes up I will just cancel it. If I do flake it has to be some massive that happens like i'm dead or someones b'day (jkin lol).
What time should we get there people?

 

[king_NDj247]

theres tonnes of matches 2 b played so i suggest u all get 2 TC's 4 1pm n start 2pm sharp otherwise this may go on till 10pm an any1 whos gettin victoria line home will b screwed.

if by sum miracle i am able 2 come then wats the best train route 2 take 2 get to TC's?

 

[Frozenwave]

PPro, the LMT lists had ONETT as counterpick, so im gonna pick fox and infinite someone yeah?

Whats wrong with the list, OMG FOUNTAIN OF DREAMS IS COUNTERPICK CAUSE......??? Its less random than Pokemon stadium so lollit

The regular 3 stages on random are FD, Dreamland and 64 and it should stay as that.

There is only one Dreamland, and its 64

 

[Professor Pro]

theres tonnes of matches 2 b played so i suggest u all get 2 TC's 4 1pm n start 2pm sharp otherwise this may go on till 10pm an any1 whos gettin victoria line home will b screwed.

if by sum miracle i am able 2 come then wats the best train route 2 take 2 get to TC's?

I'm not sure what is the best train to get there but I know the stop is not on the underground so you would have to find somewhere to transfer.

I dont think it is on the underground. But I know you can get the train from Wimbeldon to there.

PPro, the LMT lists had ONETT as counterpick, so im gonna pick fox and infinite someone yeah?

Whats wrong with the list, OMG FOUNTAIN OF DREAMS IS COUNTERPICK CAUSE......??? Its less random than Pokemon stadium so lollit



There is only one Dreamland, and its 64

loool My bad at the end, I meant PS, Dreamland and FD. But seriously those 3 stages are on random for a reason, because they serve no MAJOR advantage to overall in the game with the characters. But those two extra stages FoD and YS serve major advantages and disadvantage to nearly all of the characters, I cant think of any character that does ok on there, nearly all of them have a big advantage or disadvantage. And are often used as counterpicks which is why I am saying it is a good idea to only have the three stages on random like it is done normally in the UK. You can leave onett on the list as I understand it is a counterpick stage but to have a counterpick stage on random is just silly and unfair. Please can you change it back Peter, I will love you forever.

P.S. The randomness of PS doesnt actually effect the characters that much and if it does it effects both characters unlike the two other stages on random which can effect only one character.

 

[VA]

FD has advantages for characters too, i.e falco ***** there. But having all 6 on is even. Anyway. 3 is only weird UK rules, out here it's usually 6.

 

[Professor Pro]

FD has advantages for characters too, i.e falco ***** there. But having all 6 on is even. Anyway. 3 is only weird UK rules, out here it's usually 6.

Obviously your gonna get one character that ***** on a stage but overall the 3 stages on random is even for all characters! We defintely arent doing 6 stages on random lol.

 

[AmcD]

I agree should be 3 on random. Then the other 3 on counterpick (YS, FoD and BF)

 

[Professor Pro]

I agree should be 3 on random. Then the other 3 on counterpick (YS, FoD and BF)

Words of knowledge finally.

 

[Frozenwave]

P.S. The randomness of PS doesnt actually effect the characters that much and if it does it effects both characters unlike the two other stages on random which can effect only one character.

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The small stage of Yoshi story effects both character, you both die faster

Obviously your gonna get one character that ***** on a stage but overall the 3 stages on random is even for all characters!

Ice Climbers has a CONSIDERABLE advantage on FD and DL64. Thats even for all characters init

The thing is, ive chosen those 5 stages because they are STABLE STAGES, with exception to Pokemon stadium but you guys will just bish all day about it

Final Destination = Flat stage
Dream Land 64 = BIG with 3 Platforms
Yoshi Island = SMALL with 3 platforms, added projectile blocks and cloud saving
FoD = Medium stage, 3 platforms, 2 that move
BF = Medium stage, 3 static platforms

POKEMON STADIUM = Normal, Large stage with 2 platforms, after transformation its a joke

 

[Jolteon]

I think Charles meant PS on Brawl, PPro. The edges/windmill are pretty gay on that lool. I also don't think any walk off stages should be included for that.

You can all start coming from like 11-noon.

 

[Professor Pro]

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The small stage of Yoshi story effects both character, you both die faster

loool With that comment your carrying on like you dont know what counterpicks and like your a smash noob lol.

Ice Climbers has a CONSIDERABLE advantage on FD and DL64. Thats even for all characters init

The thing is, ive chosen those 5 stages because they are STABLE STAGES, with exception to Pokemon stadium but you guys will just bish all day about it

Final Destination = Flat stage
Dream Land 64 = BIG with 3 Platforms
Yoshi Island = SMALL with 3 platforms, added projectile blocks and cloud saving
FoD = Medium stage, 3 platforms, 2 that move
BF = Medium stage, 3 static platforms

POKEMON STADIUM = Normal, Large stage with 2 platforms, after transformation its a joke

So is your point that FoD and YS is as equally fair with every character as FD, 64 and PS looool. I'm confused if this is the point that your trying to make.

 

[Fuzzyness]

battlefield has **** edges, low platforms and under stage, it screws over fast fallers

 

[Professor Pro]

battlefield has **** edges, low platforms and under stage, it screws over fast fallers

That defintely is not going to be on random anyway.