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[Elessar]

Iunno, they nerf lower characters too. I'm not even just talking about link! Look at charizard! It might have not been much but they still gave him a slight nerf. W-why?

Because F**kurai, that's why.

 

[DarkDeity15]

Is there any buff you'd give Link other than the jab cancel back? I'd increase the hit stun for up tilt and for the bombs.

Also, can we recap all the nerfs he got? Maybe we can see if there's a pattern.

First was the toss cancel, then jab cancel, and now it's bomb slides.

I agree with your suggestions on buffs. If there was another buff I'd give though, it would be to give jab 2 more hit stun and make dtilt faster.

 

[Lawz.]

Luigi does not counter Sheik.

If you want a decent counter, its Lucario.

 

[DarkDeity15]

Luigi does not counter Sheik.

If you want a decent counter, its Lucario.

Um...explain?

 

[Zelkam]

Luigi does not counter Sheik.

If you want a decent counter, its Lucario.

What about Fox?

 

[ShinnyMetal]

Luigi does not counter Sheik.

If you want a decent counter, its Lucario.

Yeah...what? I completely fail to see how lucario counters sheik. Luigi has a lot of great tools on the other hand to combat her

 

[link and ike lover]

Are you LNIAD? if so then you play Ike not Link :@



I'm currently trying my best Well I've achieved Gold now and I'm in top 200 lol

No im LNIM. I made top 100 in the last ladder season

 

[Lawz.]

Um...explain?

She can't kill....he gets stronger as he takes damage. Force palm with rage will kill her below 60%. His recovery also becomes completely ridiculous so you can't really gimp him.

 

[FSK]

No im LNIM. I made top 100 in the last ladder season

Aren't you playing this season?

 

[DarkDeity15]

Also..Phoenix bombs in Melee at 1:36?

 

[Zelkam]

Also..Phoenix bombs in Melee at 1:36?

No

 

[smokebomb12]

Do you guy"s think Lucas will be better than he was in brawl?

 

[FSK]

Do you guy"s think Lucas will be better than he was in brawl?

No

 

[ama99]

Do you guy"s think Lucas will be better than he was in brawl?

Probably not, I mean Mewtwo wasn't much better than his Melee version so we'll see.

 

[smokebomb12]

Probably not, I mean Mewtwo wasn't much better than his Melee version so we'll see.

I think mewtwo is better in this version.

 

[ShinnyMetal]

I think mewtwo is better in this version.

Eehhh not really. Maybe in certain ways but he got hurt in other ways at the same time

 

[DarkDeity15]

@ Zelkam - Can you at least tell me what the hell happened?

 

[Zelkam]

@ Zelkam - Can you at least tell me what the hell happened?

Bomb pull - shield - drop through platform - bomb throw - double jump - bomb pull - drop through platform - bomb throw

 

[Rizen]

I got some good wifi games in. I'm trying to be more bold offstage, get used to the attack chains/combos and generally get over my Brawl habits

 

[smokebomb12]

Things that I hope that the patch changes


Up throw kills at higher percentage
Gyro deals less damage
Down throw gives a bit of knock back to get rid of combos


Improve egg throw
Side b can be cancelled
U air deals less knock back
Down air does not spike


Lag on a bunch of his moves


Buffs, buffs everywhere
Decrease on d air lag


Pikmin can be blocked


Removed from game

 

[Lawz.]

Things that I hope that the patch changes


Up throw kills at higher percentage
Gyro deals less damage
Down throw gives a bit of knock back to get rid of combos


Improve egg throw
Side b can be cancelled
U air deals less knock back
Down air does not spike


Lag on a bunch of his moves


Buffs, buffs everywhere
Decrease on d air lag


Pikmin can be blocked


Removed from game

Nerfs/Buffs are supposed to help even the game out as a whole.

None of these would help the metagame, these would just destroy honest/obscure characters.

 

[Rizen]

It's stormy and my power's gone out twice tonight. Fortunately I keep a flashlight in easy reach
New thread title. If anyone wants to suggest titles go for it. I try to use LoZ references or events.

 

[Fox Is Openly Deceptive]

*looks at thread title* - That explains why my tunic is green.

 

[Rizen]

Green covers up the grass stains.

 

[Fox Is Openly Deceptive]

Green covers up the grass stains.

touché

 

[ama99]

Things that I hope that the patch changes


Up throw kills at higher percentage
Gyro deals less damage
Down throw gives a bit of knock back to get rid of combos


Improve egg throw
Side b can be cancelled
U air deals less knock back
Down air does not spike


Lag on a bunch of his moves


Buffs, buffs everywhere
Decrease on d air lag


Pikmin can be blocked


Removed from game

Let's keep Rosalina just the way she is and make Olimar literally unplayable!!!

 

[DarkDeity15]

Things that I hope that the patch changes


Up throw kills at higher percentage
Gyro deals less damage
Down throw gives a bit of knock back to get rid of combos


Improve egg throw
Side b can be cancelled
U air deals less knock back
Down air does not spike


Lag on a bunch of his moves


Buffs, buffs everywhere
Decrease on d air lag


Pikmin can be blocked


Removed from game

What the hell is wrong with Mega Man?

But in all reality, the only thing they need to do to properly balance the cast is buff the lower characters to match high tiers.

 

[ShinnyMetal]

What the hell is wrong with Mega Man?

But in all reality, the only thing they need to do to properly balance the cast is buff the lower characters to match high tiers.

And maybe reduce the hitstun on sheiks d-throw. Damn thing combos into way to high of percents

 

[Linkmario00]

Guys...are we sure there will be a balance patch? I didn't see any confirm anywhere. Can you post one if it actually exist?
Also, the first thing that needs a nerfato is Shiek Fair. Absolutely bull****.
Other than that, some buffs to low tiers Link included maybe and than it's fine for me

 

[DUKEL]

Things that I hope that the patch changes

Lag on a bunch of his moves

But.. mega man already has a ton of lag on his moves? Do you even Mega Man? Literally his only low-lag moves generate lemons.

Spoiler

git gud scrub

 

[Serac]

I believe sword users should have increased priority or better hit-boxes to compensate for for the lag in their moves.

 

[Rizen]

I believe sword users should have increased priority or better hit-boxes to compensate for for the lag in their moves.

In the magical happy fantasy world of 'if SSB4 was balanced competitively'. This is why characters like Sheik, Falcon and Fox are top tier.

 

[8MAN]

I think they need to nerf Pikachu's quick attack because it's ability to control neutral is insane.
>Covers ground very fast
>Combo starter due to its good hitsun
>Attack --> retreat makes it very hard to punish
>Controllability allows Pikachu to be able to land behind opponents after QA

Basically the only defensive options
availible are throwing out hitboxes in hopes of catching Pikachu or by just sitting in sheild and waiting for the madness to end.

 

[ama99]

Guys...are we sure there will be a balance patch? I didn't see any confirm anywhere. Can you post one if it actually exist?
Also, the first thing that needs a nerfato is Shiek Fair. Absolutely bull****.
Other than that, some buffs to low tiers Link included maybe and than it's fine for me

Its not been confirmed. We're just assuming there'll be one since there was one that accompanied the mewtwo patch.

 

[Rizen]

I watched a speedrun of and trying playing Other M again. I renew my criticism of that game. How can people think it's a good game, especially by Metroid standards?!

 

[Zelkam]

This was too good not to share

 

[link and ike lover]

Aren't you playing this season?

Yea I started but then I stopped. won all my games though. No losses. I think I only played 5 to 10 or somethin

 

[DarkDeity15]

This was too good not to share

God that's hilarious. I actually thought that was a cutscene from HW at first though. Very high quality. I wish people made more things like this.

 

[Ffamran]

This was too good not to share

Okay, I seriously want a Zelda game where Link is a thief or has some Robin Hood-like background. I mean, dude's already wearing green! Link already robs everyone blind too! It'd be like Thief, Sly Cooper, sort of Deus Ex, and sort of Prince of Persia - Skyward Sword parkour's expanded. Link's already covered the chosen hero, blacksmith, rancher, fairy kid, sailor, train conductor, knight, and now he's like a hunter/archer for Zelda Wii U, so why not make him a charming thief in a future Zelda game?

Edit: And I sort of want people to react to Link breaking, stealing stuff just for ***** and giggles.

 

[Rizen]

I wish we'd hear more about the next LoZ. I can't believe it won't be shown in E3. Xenoblade CX will have to tide over my wander-lust.