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Lawz.

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Just be sure to not go full emo when you lose in the tourney. Even if you are good, you will always lose on your first real tourney and in stupid ways. Has nothing to do with actual skill.; it's just what happens.
Tell that to Ally lmao

Dude just showed up and beat mew2king
 

Elessar

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Tell that to Ally lmao

Dude just showed up and beat mew2king
There's always the weird exception. Although I bet that even that tourney wasn't Ally's first. I'm talking about your first tourney performance.
 

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Wow, after reading through some posts here, it seems like I've gotten loads of crap talk before I could even fully explain myself. Lol, talk about assumin'. Some of you should really learn to think before you act.

Edit: I'm bored as ****. Nothing to do on weekends.
 
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MintyGuy700

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So…Link's new strategies. Should we make a board about it? I and I'm sure a few others are stumped on the next move.
 
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Wow, after reading through some posts here, it seems like I've gotten loads of crap talk before I could even fully explain myself. Lol, talk about assumin'. Some of you should really learn to think before you act.

Edit: I'm bored as ****. Nothing to do on weekends.
I must congratulate you, for you are now among one of the most stupid pieces of **** that has ever posted on our boards. And trust me; such a title is not easily obtained.
It is really quite obvious you are severely stupid and you have a disablity when it comes to learning things, therefore I would highly suggest for you to stop posting a while before you only make more of a complete idiot out of yourself, if you are unable to see the extreme irony in your post then I am afraid I must hereby officially mark you as a brainless ******.
 

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Wow, after reading through some posts here, it seems like I've gotten loads of crap talk before I could even fully explain myself. Lol, talk about assumin'. Some of you should really learn to think before you act.

Edit: I'm bored as ****. Nothing to do on weekends.
I’m angry as ****, idiots posting
They can't stop their inane boasting.

You can’t conceal your ***********
Since that sad patch came our poor way:
Get out now, it’s your last station –
Count your blessings – time to pray.
 
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MintyGuy700

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I'm serious, does anyone have a suggestion for Link? I'm stuck on what to do....
 

zeldasmash

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I must congratulate you, for you are now among one of the most stupid pieces of **** that has ever posted on our boards. And trust me; such a title is not easily obtained.
It is really quite obvious you are severely stupid and you have a disablity when it comes to learning things, therefore I would highly suggest for you to stop posting a while before you only make more of a complete idiot out of yourself, if you are unable to see the extreme irony in your post then I am afraid I must hereby officially mark you as a brainless ******.
Buddy, your hate posts are not needed. They are completely unnecessary.
 

Dumbfire

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I'm serious, does anyone have a suggestion for Link? I'm stuck on what to do....
There's a discussion on the Metagame thread about Link's future. Record a match if you need any other help, we'll need specifics. (Pointing a camera/mobile at your TV is fine for critique.) But we're all kind of stumped at the moment.
 

MintyGuy700

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There's a discussion on the Metagame thread about Link's future. Record a match if you need any other help, we'll need specifics. (Pointing a camera/mobile at your TV is fine for critique.) But we're all kind of stumped at the moment.
Okay, thank you for telling me. I'm going to a tournament on Sunday, and I'm kinda flipping out because I know not what I will do.
 

Soldner Kei

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You must understand what we -- they -- have been through. So many have left us.
****ing tears DF... man, 2008 was like the best year for this boards... the AiB migration & PM becoming a thing(at that time it was brawl+) made me drop brawl just like most of these guys eventually did, but yeah, as a blue Link watching such players like Deva was an inspiration for me.

I have been playing Sm4sh more lately, but just casually, gonna drop by to the metagame discussion later, get a video and ask for criticism based on that.
 

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****ing tears DF... man, 2008 was like the best year for this boards... the AiB migration & PM becoming a thing(at that time it was brawl+) made me drop brawl just like most of these guys eventually did, but yeah, as a blue Link watching such players like Deva was an inspiration for me.

I have been playing Sm4sh more lately, but just casually, gonna drop by to the metagame discussion later, get a video and ask for criticism based on that.
Ahhh, the glory days. It was Brawl and were were at the bottom, but there was a family and it was beautiful. :3
 

Zelkam

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I feel so left out with this 2014 join date...

There are some days that I really regret not making my old account premium and doing the name change. If only I had known. :(
 

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I didn't say For Glory strategies. lol
We don't really have a choice. Link was weakened up-close by the new patch. Plus, I've always played full-defensive with Link despite how boring and unflashy it is. It maybe ugly, but it works too if you could use your projectiles right.
 

Elessar

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I regret to creating my account and joining the boards in 2008 when I first stumbled in here, but oh well.

@ Catana Catana I'd hug you if I could. Your posts always make my day.

I finally played today again...and I felt the need. I was really at a loss as to what to do other than spam and camp. Felt just like brawl again; spamming and running away hoping they didn't come close. Using sword just to keep them away, to hit them and then run away again.

@ MintyGuy700 MintyGuy700 , until we find our footing again and redevelop the meta, that's all we can tell you to do. We're all trying to scramble back up again.
 

A_Phoenix_Down

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That's what this patch says to me as well... they reverted us back to the campy, spam-happy ways of Brawl...

I was so excited to think that Link would finally be able to make use of his sword and shield. I'm as disgusted as I was in the days of Brawl right now.
 

Nimious

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I regret to creating my account and joining the boards in 2008 when I first stumbled in here, but oh well.

@ Catana Catana I'd hug you if I could. Your posts always make my day.

I finally played today again...and I felt the need. I was really at a loss as to what to do other than spam and camp. Felt just like brawl again; spamming and running away hoping they didn't come close. Using sword just to keep them away, to hit them and then run away again.

@ MintyGuy700 MintyGuy700 , until we find our footing again and redevelop the meta, that's all we can tell you to do. We're all trying to scramble back up again.
I feel the same, just played some FG for the first time since the patch. It was just two matches before my roommate kicked me off (gamecube controller is noisy and she has a final tomorrow).

Anyways key points I took out of the two matches were quite simple.

1. It's hard to finish a stock safely now with lack of jab cancelling.
2. But Links STILL has setups to kill moves. They are just awkward and far more risky.

The setup (outside of bombs) revolves around Bair. If you cancel the first hit of Bair at kill percentage and depending on your opponent's fall speed Up Tilt, Down Smash (Up Smash against floaties?) or Grab are your options after the hit confirm. Alternatively if both hits of Bair land and they miss their tech it is possible to arrow reset them. Depending on the distance you could get anything to the minimum of a dash attack.

I'm sure quite a few are aware Bair can do such things but given the changes this now has to become very important to Link given how committal Link's kill moves are.
 
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Elessar

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Patch 1.0.6 can be summed up in: "Sakurai woke up one day and facepalmed upon remembering that he had forgotten to make Link bottom tier."

The problem now is that we got no real setups of anything. Our options have been halved and everything we do is too risky with not enough reward.
 

MintyGuy700

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I seriously hate Sakurai. He tried to get rid of Smashers in Brawl. Then he fooled us into thinking he liked competitive play. I'm glad he's not making the next game.

Edit (2021): What was I thinking with this post?
 
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Zelkam

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I seriously hate Sakurai. He tried to get rid of Smashers in Brawl. Then he fooled us into thinking he liked competitive play. I'm glad he's not making the next game.
You're talking about the guy that said there wasn't going to be any more balancing after patch 1.0.5

Trust me...he'll be making the next game
 

MintyGuy700

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You're talking about the guy that said there wasn't going to be any more balancing after patch 1.0.5

Trust me...he'll be making the next game
He never said he wouldn't make a new balance patch. He said there wasn't one in the near future.
 

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I seriously hate Sakurai. He tried to get rid of Smashers in Brawl. Then he fooled us into thinking he liked competitive play. I'm glad he's not making the next game.
Wait, is he seriously stepping off Smash after this one?
If so, thank god. It's about time.
 

MintyGuy700

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He say the same thing when Brawl was coming out...
Even if he did, Sakurai has immense pain in his right arm. And it's not getting better. He went through physical pain to make this game.
 

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Yo guys i made a pretty fun challege for us link mains. The challenge is to go a full round with 3 stocks with a lv9 cpu WITHOUT using your sword. You can only use your gadgets and no master sword. You can't even up b if your falling. If you hit with the sword or even bring it out you fail the challenge! I tried it myself and it will take a long time to finish but it is fun and can help you with spacing you and your opponent. Try the challenge your self save the replay and maybe upload it to the thread. Also omega stages only and no up throw kills.
 

Huggles828

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Yo guys i made a pretty fun challege for us link mains. The challenge is to go a full round with 3 stocks with a lv9 cpu WITHOUT using your sword. You can only use your gadgets and no master sword. You can't even up b if your falling. If you hit with the sword or even bring it out you fail the challenge! I tried it myself and it will take a long time to finish but it is fun and can help you with spacing you and your opponent. Try the challenge your self save the replay and maybe upload it to the thread. Also omega stages only and no up throw kills.
My favorite challenge is to try to beat a level 3 computer with your ass. Just mash the controller against your cheeks and see if you can beat them!
 
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Nimious

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I seriously hate Sakurai. He tried to get rid of Smashers in Brawl. Then he fooled us into thinking he liked competitive play. I'm glad he's not making the next game.
Be honest. Sakurai can't really make Link worse, the loss of jab cancel is as bad as it gets. Instead we should look forward to Sakurai's patches and hope he cripples the rest of the Smash cast.
 
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