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[Zane the pure]

Found a really good Link in New York by the name of Shuzen after wading through the morass of lowlife FG heroes and had many a great match. Anyone know who this cat is? If so, bring him around, this place could use another skilled main.

 

[link7]

Please no XD. While the Hylianfinite is by far my favourite suggestion thus far, the last thing we need is more misinformation about this tech leading people into thinking it is actually an infinite. Unless of course you want it patched out like the ZSS infinite. It's a harmless perk and I intend to keep it around.

Hmmmm, how about the Hylian Shuffle? Or Hylian Jugggle? Shufflian?

 

[Fox Is Openly Deceptive]

N64 Link had the Illusion Stab whereas it was a move that allowed him to keep stabbing quickly until you stopped tapping A.

Illusion Slash is the return of Illusion Stab. Idk thought it was kind of fitting.

I had no idea that it was called illusion stab. But yeah, I'm definitely all for Illusion Slash now that I know it's a nod to 64 Link.

 

[link7]

I had no idea that it was called illusion stab. But yeah, I'm definitely all for Illusion Slash now that I know it's a nod to 64 Link.

How about Illusion Jab? Because it's a jab.

 

[The Merc]

I honestly have no idea how to make the game freeze with a Jab.

hm, I wonder how it happens then.....

N64 Link had the Illusion Stab whereas it was a move that allowed him to keep stabbing quickly until you stopped tapping A.

Illusion Slash is the return of Illusion Stab. Idk thought it was kind of fitting.

Oh I knew that already that (plus you forgot Link and Young Link from Melee)

I just though I had heard illusion slash in a different game. and yes, the name is kind of fitting.

 

[Hylian]

Hmmmm, how about the Hylian Shuffle? Or Hylian Jugggle? Shufflian?

RIP my name searching days.

 

[link7]

RIP my name searching days.

For someone with the name "Hylian", I'm disappointed you don't main Link.

 

[Elessar]

My vote goes to "Illusion Jab" as a not to smash 64, though to be honest, Jab lock is fine for me. We don't need to call it something fancy and different when it's just a jab lock in essence.

We could call it Hylian Jab Lock though...

 

[Breadloaf]

My vote goes to Ilussion Jab seeing as it is a nice nod to both 64 and melee link wich can both utilise it. As well as it being already a jab based combo the jab being the base of the technique and illusion being the execution of the technique sucesfully. I think its a perfect name for it.

 

[Rizen]

My problem with illusion jab is illusion stab was a SSB64 and Melee technique that happened when you mashed jab fast enough like Fox's kick. It was very different than this AT.
The only hitbox example I could find was for young Link but this applies to Link too.
http://www.ssbwiki.com/Young_Link_(SSBM)/Hitboxes

I still think we should call it what it is: a jab cancel lock. It's essentially the same principle as Brawl Sheik's Ftilt lock and follows that naming pattern.

 

[links24]

go for Mass Jab........but i guess ill settle for illusion jab i guess......

 

[A_Phoenix_Down]

Or we can simply call it win.

 

[Elessar]

Why are we trying to reinvent the wheel though? Just call it a Jab lock and that's it since that is, quite literally, what it is. It's a Jab lock, period.

 

[Breadloaf]

My problem with illusion jab is illusion stab was a SSB64 and Melee technique that happened when you mashed jab fast enough like Fox's kick. It was very different than this AT.
The only hitbox example I could find was for young Link but this applies to Link too.
http://www.ssbwiki.com/Young_Link_(SSBM)/Hitboxes

I still think we should call it what it is: a jab cancel lock. It's essentially the same principle as Brawl Sheik's Ftilt lock and follows that naming pattern.

That's my point its a homage to that exact technique.

 

[_Magus_]

Brothers! The time is now! Cast open the gates of destruction, and take what is ours! @JmacAttack @ THE 6r @ToonWaker @ HeavyLobster These tight-wearing heroes actually think they stand a chance against the Gerudo king. One of them even went so far as to say Link has the MU advantage. Let us show them the mistake they have made, and have no mercy. We shall spare only @Naroghin, for he has been like a brother to us. Feel free to challenge any of the others, my kindred!! Let us wipe the floor with these green-clad fairies!! Let us show them our dark power! With this new, stronger form, we shall not stand by and let this hero defend Hyrule. We shall claim what belongs to the darkness! Now brothers, stand with me!!!!

 

[Elessar]

Brothers! The time is now! Cast open the gates of destruction, and take what is ours! @JmacAttack @ THE 6r @ToonWaker @ HeavyLobster These tight-wearing heroes actually think they stand a chance against the Gerudo king. One of them even went so far as to say Link has the MU advantage. Let us show them the mistake they have made, and have no mercy. We shall spare only @Naroghin, for he has been like a brother to us. Feel free to challenge any of the others, my kindred!! Let us wipe the floor with these green-clad fairies!! Let us show them our dark power! With this new, stronger form, we shall not stand by and let this hero defend Hyrule. We shall claim what belongs to the darkness! Now brothers, stand with me!!!!

Wait, is this a challenge for online matches or are you summoning a raid?

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Brothers! The time is now! Cast open the gates of destruction, and take what is ours! @JmacAttack @ THE 6r @ToonWaker @ HeavyLobster These tight-wearing heroes actually think they stand a chance against the Gerudo king. One of them even went so far as to say Link has the MU advantage. Let us show them the mistake they have made, and have no mercy. We shall spare only @Naroghin, for he has been like a brother to us. Feel free to challenge any of the others, my kindred!! Let us wipe the floor with these green-clad fairies!! Let us show them our dark power! With this new, stronger form, we shall not stand by and let this hero defend Hyrule. We shall claim what belongs to the darkness! Now brothers, stand with me!!!!

Another raid...

 

[Breadloaf]

Brothers! The time is now! Cast open the gates of destruction, and take what is ours! @JmacAttack @ THE 6r @ToonWaker @ HeavyLobster These tight-wearing heroes actually think they stand a chance against the Gerudo king. One of them even went so far as to say Link has the MU advantage. Let us show them the mistake they have made, and have no mercy. We shall spare only @Naroghin, for he has been like a brother to us. Feel free to challenge any of the others, my kindred!! Let us wipe the floor with these green-clad fairies!! Let us show them our dark power! With this new, stronger form, we shall not stand by and let this hero defend Hyrule. We shall claim what belongs to the darkness! Now brothers, stand with me!!!!

Link does have the matchup advantage even on battlefield, im not saying Ganny cant win link just has better tools against the king of evil.
Also @Lozjam chime in on this matchup will ya.

 

[Zelkam]

Wait, is this a challenge for online matches or are you summoning a raid?

Either way, I don't think they understand what they're getting themselves into.

 

[HeavyLobster]

No sword technique will save you from the might of the King of Evil himself. All Hyrule shall tremble before the wrath of Ganon.

 

[Rizen]

That's my point its a homage to that exact technique.

But it's not that technique; why call two different things the same thing? It also is inaccurate for SSB4 since other characters have rapid jab combos, which is what illusion stab was but the jab cancel lock isn't a rapid jab combo. Calling the new AT illusion stab would be like calling Sheik's rapid jab a jab lock.

Why are we trying to reinvent the wheel though? Just call it a Jab lock and that's it since that is, quite literally, what it is. It's a Jab lock, period.

No it's not. A jab lock in Brawl required use of the wobble animation set up by a non-teched landing followed by a weak attack, jab or arrow for Link, that caused the ground wobble again. It was DI-able to escape so Link had to step forward to continue it. It also caused a forced stand up from the ground.
Link can still do this in SSB4 but only a few times before the game ends the jab lock (unlike Brawl where you could walk across the stage).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R2YjeF9DzE

The new AT is very different in execution and why it works than rapid jabs or jab locks. I just think we should have consistency in names. We don't call jump canceling bomb throws, bomb slides (done similarly to DACUS). Although similar, they're different ATs.

 

[zeldasmash]

I think "Linking" was mentioned a couple of pages ago. I think that one could work.

 

[Dumbfire]

I don't fight Ganondorfs; I befriend them and team with them. He was my first main too: at my very first tournament, when I was just a little boy of 12, I played an entire pool with him. 'Twas amusing.

Still, if we must!

Warriors and chiefs! should the shaft or the sword
Pierce me in leading the host of the Lord,
Heed not the corse, though a king’s, in your path:
Bury your steel in the bosoms of Gath!

Thou who art bearing my buckler and bow,
Should the soldiers of Saul look away from the foe,
Stretch me that moment in blood at thy feet!
Mine be the doom which they dared not to meet.

Farewell to others, but never we part,
Heir to my royalty, son of my heart!
Bright is the diadem, boundless the sway,
Or kingly the death, which awaits us to-day!​

 

[HeavyLobster]

Wait, is this a challenge for online matches or are you summoning a raid?

Both. Who dares to defy me?

 

[Breadloaf]

Both. Who dares to defy me?

I think the better question is who doesn't?

 

[_Magus_]

Either way, I don't think they understand what they're getting themselves into.

Both, and we certainly know what we signed up for.

No sword technique will save you from the might of the King of Evil himself. All Hyrule shall tremble before the wrath of Ganon.

Brother! It is good to see you here on the field of battle. Show them no quarter!

 

[THE 6r]

Fools, you think the followers of darkness are easily felled by a few sword swings? Ha think again.

 

[Rizen]

I'll wifi any of the Ganondorfs right now if you want?

 

[_Magus_]

I'll wifi any of the Ganondorfs right now if you want?

I'll gladly accept your challenge later. I'm actually about to go to class now.

 

[HeavyLobster]

I'll wifi any of the Ganondorfs right now if you want?

Sure. My NNID is HeavyLobster43.

 

[link7]

I think "Linking" was mentioned a couple of pages ago. I think that one could work.

We're trying to not call it something related to wobbling.

Why are we trying to reinvent the wheel though? Just call it a Jab lock and that's it since that is, quite literally, what it is. It's a Jab lock, period.

We're not trying to reinvent the wheel, we're trying to give it's rims some bling.
With that being said, why don't we call it Hylian Stab? It's a nod to S64, it unique to Link, and whenever we say the name "Hylian", it'll torment @ Hylian for the remainder of his days.

 

[_Magus_]

Sure. My NNID is HeavyLobster43.

Give them hell, brother.

 

[Rizen]

Sure. My NNID is HeavyLobster43.

Okay, I'll add you. Okay hosting. GL hf.

 

[hakaithesamurai]

Either way, I don't think they understand what they're getting themselves into.

Oh please, all of the tight wearing Links are the same. We will wipe the floor with you all and make Hyrule bow down before our might.

 

[THE 6r]

Sure. My NNID is HeavyLobster43.

Go bring the darkness to their minds and eyes.

 

[Breadloaf]

How bout y'all stop talking smack and actually contribute to the matchup thread.

 

[THE 6r]

Oh please, all of the tight wearing Links are the same. We will wipe the floor with you all and make Hyrule bow down before our might.

As we always have.

How bout y'all stop talking smack and actually contribute to the matchup thread.

Let me guess, it's Ganon v. Link MU right?

 

[Breadloaf]

Let me guess, it's Ganon v. Link MU right?

You see any other posts with your name on them?
Edit: That was indeed the matchup i was refering too.

 

[Rizen]

^^Edit your posts instead of double posting.

@ HeavyLobster can you join my room? I'm not seeing requests to join.

 

[THE 6r]

^Sorry still new