Legendaries

[Ryu Shimazu]

I've realized I only lack celebi, riakou, mewtwo, and ho-oh from having all the legendaries. After this, I also realized how many of them suck. My favorite bird was always Articuno, and now it is one of the worst there is... (maybe better than Regigas, but worse than Entei I'm sure..) There are so many legendaries that are now considered crap and it's really dissapointing, or they are in lower teirs when the movies(lol) say otherwise. So I wondered, if you could make one legendary better, which would you pick? I'd go with Articuno, and I'm sorry if this isn't threadworthy, was just an opinion =[

 

[Wave⁂]

I hate vague thread titles with the passion of one thousand burning Heatrans.

Shaymin needs to be more than a carbon copy of Celebi.

 

[xLeafybug =D]

What Annoying said.

I'm not sure whether or not this belongs in the Q&A.

But I don't really care to change anything about any legendaries.

 

[Deleted member]

ehh, I really feel that kyogre is underpowered. it needs at least 50 more base HP and mirror coat. and immunity to paralysis.

 

[Wave⁂]

If you're to give it 50 more HP, might as well slap on 50 more SpAtk too.

 

[xLeafybug =D]

Really? It already ties with Rayquaza, Palkia, Deoxys and Dialga for the 3rd highest SpA in Ubers, with 150 SpA. Only Mewtwo and Deoxys-A have higher SpA, with 154, and 180 respectively.

But I hope you people realize that giving Kyogre 50 more anything makes have a 720 BST, which is equal to Arceus. Given it's amazing ability, it makes Kyogre a GOD. There's a difference between making a Pokemon better, and making a Pokemon broken.

Mirror Coat is a good idea as well, but I disagree with immunity to Paralysis.

 

[Metal~Mario]

If you're to give it 50 more HP, might as well slap on 50 more SpAtk too.

Groudon mirrors Kyogre perfectly when you look at their Base Stats. Groudon would get 50 more HP/At as well. Groudon should be immune to burn IMO.

Entei: Flare Blitz. 'Nuff said.

Give Articuno Surf and maybe Snow Warning and maybe it won't suck anymore.
Maybe.

 

[xLeafybug =D]

Groudon mirrors Kyogre perfectly when you look at their Base Stats. Groudon would get 50 more HP/At as well. Groudon should be immune to burn IMO.

Give Articuno Surf and maybe Snow Warning and maybe it won't suck as much anymore.
Maybe.

Read the bolded part.

Like the immune to paralysis thing, Immune to burn is also a dumb idea for anything not fire type.

And that 50BP thing for a Pokemon with the 3rd highest BST and an amazing ability is just a bad idea. Seriously.

 

[Metal~Mario]

^Thought so.

I'm just saying, make one Uber completely broken, make 'em all completely broken, it just makes sense that way.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Give Ho-oh Flare Blitz. XD

-Terywj

 

[xLeafybug =D]

Sacred Fire does the job well enough. Nobody wants an additional 1/3 recoil anyways.

I wish Darkrai was Dark/Ghost. Get rid of that weakness to Aura Sphere/Close Combat.

But no Weaknesses would make it broken.

 

[DUB]

I would make Moltres completely broken. Sp. A base of 140 with increased HP and Sp.D.

Moltres is somewhat functional now as a Choice Scarf lead.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I would make Moltres completely broken. Sp. A base of 140 with increased HP and Sp.D.

Moltres is somewhat functional now as a Choice Scarf lead.

Only in the UU Tier of course.

I would love being able to make Ho-oh near brokenness. XD

-Terywj

 

[Oracle]

ehh, I really feel that kyogre is underpowered. it needs at least 50 more base HP and mirror coat. and immunity to paralysis.

It definitely needs those base points into attack so it can hit those **** walls. Also it should have a bigger movepool. It's just horrible right now

 

[Deleted member]

you guys are ********. I was just going for kyo leads that don't get gayed by 1st turn GK/thunder.

 

[xLeafybug =D]

I understand what you're trying to say, but there has to be a better way than making a Kyogre with a leviathan BST.

 

[DUB]

I understand what you're trying to say, but there has to be a better way than making a Kyogre with a leviathan BST.

Yeah, I agree with you on that.

 

[moyshe]

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[Jim Morrison]

Mewtwo, probably.

 

[xLeafybug =D]

asdawdasdawdasd

Don't be stupid and spam threads. Let alone dead ones.

Mewtwo, probably.

Why and how?

 

[Jim Morrison]

Why and how?

Because I like Mewtwo and don't play competatively. And don't ask me how, I'd probably give him ridiculous stats.

 

[xLeafybug =D]

Thinking about it, using how was an incredibly poor choice of words. My mistake.

 

[Wave⁂]

Don't be stupid and spam threads. Let alone dead ones.

Already flagged as spam.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Mewtwo already has plenty good stats. Just buff up his HP and Defense and you're all set, really.

-Terywj

 

[CRASHiC]

Give him Mew's move pool.

 

[Mewter]

Come to think of it, why doesn't he have Mew's move pool?

 

[xLeafybug =D]

Does Mewtwo really need anything else? Seriously.

 

[UltiMario]

Come to think of it, why doesn't he have Mew's move pool?

He's not a perfect clone, obviously. Only some of Mew's true DNA was sucessfully copied, living only bits and pieces of memories, bilogical structure, and learning ability. In return, science gave him more power than its predecessor, as they were trying to create "the ultimate Pokemon", and during the time Mewtwo was created and what was known, he was.
Then came 3rd Gen.
Then 4th Gen.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Arceus ruined Mewtwo's title.

-Terywj

 

[CRASHiC]

I don't think so. Mewtwo still has higher special attack and speed, he does what he was designed to do better than Arceus. Arceus more claimed Mew's territory of "LOL Guess what set I'm using or die"

 

[xLeafybug =D]

CRASHiC hit the nail on the head.

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

I thought Arceus created the worlds and mew who created everything else, but I guess I'm wrong =(. So mew is just something on the side now? Or are you all talking stats/moves and stuff only? I'm probably reading it wrong.

 

[xLeafybug =D]

I'm just a bit confused on what exactly you're reading...

 

[CRASHiC]

Well, Pokemon's cannon doesn't make much sense now really.
Mew was the first
But Arceus made all pokemon.

This as confusion as any other religious debate.

 

[황미영]

Didn't you know? Pokemon is a religion!

 

[Metal~Mario]

Well, Pokemon's cannon doesn't make much sense now really.
Mew was the first
But Arceus made all pokemon.

This as confusion as any other religious debate.

A better question is "When has Pokemon not been confusing?"

 

[★Chaos★]

arceus created all pokemon except mew, thats the confusing part.mew was pre-created before arceus since mew has all pokemons genes.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Ditto > Arceus. Since Arceus could have been a Ditto clone, and we'd never know. xD

-Terywj

 

[Metal~Mario]

Ditto > Arceus. Since Arceus could have been a Ditto clone, and we'd never know. xD

-Terywj

Terywj, you just destroyed the entire foundation of Pokemon:

If Arceus is a Ditto clone, then aren't all Pokemon Ditto clones?

Is Ditto a Ditto clone?

Spoiler

How do we know what's a real Ditto now!?!?!?!

Gee, thanks for proposing such a Poke-paradox.