Learn how to earn your wings! A pit video critique thread :)

[Maharba the Mystic]

PTZR, i want in on this, it's a MU i know well. sure i lost to Razer's falco today, but razer is just way too good. but still i know it really well and would like to contribute if you want me too. PM me if you want my input on something about falco

 

[Pitzer]

Yeah, Falco is my most easy match-up. It's not relatively hard for me. Since I use to play a falco main in Melee, it was kinda my goal to learn the match-up vs falco in both games. I played DEHF during MLG DC when we chilled in our hotel room, we went even. He told me that he hopes he doesn't get me in brackets cause he might lose lol. I will contribute to this match up, and I will need help from you and Kool-aid.

 

[Kuro~]

PTZR, i want in on this, it's a MU i know well. sure i lost to Razer's falco today, but razer is just way too good. but still i know it really well and would like to contribute if you want me too. PM me if you want my input on something about falco

Yeah, Falco is my most easy match-up. It's not relatively hard for me. Since I use to play a falco main in Melee, it was kinda my goal to learn the match-up vs falco in both games. I played DEHF during MLG DC when we chilled in our hotel room, we went even. He told me that he hopes he doesn't get me in brackets cause he might lose lol. I will contribute to this match up, and I will need help from you and Kool-aid.

This is something i really need. I hope koolaid helps too he seems to know it really well.

 

[Death Arcana]

Thanks for the advice zulo
I've been changing some things so..
I is now toon pit!
I'll have another video up soon

My younger stepbro mains pit as well someones prolly heard of
Him. deathbygoten

 

[Abel1994]

Thanks Luckay!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OpC6JUoOd4&feature=feedu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8706IZDAMk&feature=feedu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sL7NZaFZ6o&feature=feedu

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

There should be a third one up too. Recording Kuro's vids now.

 

[Kuro~]

There should be a third one up too. Recording Kuro's vids now.

Let me know when you're done. Got a few lulzy ones i want to upload. i can do it after i finish exercising though... BBL.

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

Actually my capture card is starting to heat up, sound is desyncing and shiz, will try later tonight.

 

[Kuro~]

Actually my capture card is starting to heat up, sound is desyncing and shiz, will try later tonight.

Oh mmk. No rush. I just liked em cuz they are of a not very frequent mu.(Olimar) and Even though i was playing the wario one all wrong (at that point in time i still didn't get it just had begun to experiment with some of yalls advice. Was way too agressive in that match) i liked some of the kills haha.

 

[Abel1994]

Luckay is the only one we rely on

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

Who do those people go by btw for the video title.

 

[Kuro~]

Who do those people go by btw for the video title.

Pesticide(oli) and Solo(wario)

 

[Abel1994]

Kuro 2 gud :D

Can you guys post ma vid on fsmash since im ban :D

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

why do you even care about that site anymore lol

 

[Abel1994]

Because its awsome!

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPi7ymH5RmE

critique this. i posted it in the social but just realized i want advice (and the occasional nice move there lol)

 

[Kuro~]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPi7ymH5RmE

critique this. i posted it in the social but just realized i want advice (and the occasional nice move there lol)

I'll do a time stamp review when i get home

 

[Esca]

I've beaten kismet in tourney with pit! Can i get in on this?!

 

[Kuro~]

I've beaten kismet in tourney with pit! Can i get in on this?!

Haha nice. Get on what?o.o

 

[Abel1994]

On this ****

 

[Abel1994]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj9UUq8BVqc&feature=feedrec_grec_index

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4iAr6lXYWU maharba (pit) vs megafox (falco) friendly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiwyTolV6og maharba (pit) vs grayfox64 (fox) tourney

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PonQVgPanMQ maharba (pit) vs grayfox64 (wolf) tourney

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlvgULiQJrA maharba (pit) vs ultimate razer (snake) tourney

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS8h4GLxn9M maharba (pit) vs ultimate razer (falco) tourney

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGar_Y4lK3o maharba (pit) vs kprime (duh) friendly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beikkXSh6dI&feature=related maharba (pit) vs kprime (duh) friendly

here are all the vids from the tourney besides the doubles matches and one MM against an olimar. didn't put the one vs illmatic in because it's already posted.

so please watch, critique, enjoy, and hopefully learn stuff from me (please let me know what you think of my playing overall and if you pick up some of my gameplay, i like knowing that stuff)

also, these are definately better vids than my earlier vids so kuro take what you want for the YT thread/channel

 

[Xcallion]

ima watch them all. it may take a while though...

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sny9Nd0Idns maharba (pit) vs Mike3 (marth) tourney part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhvXGz_TQGE maharba (pit) vs Mike3 (marth) tourney part 2

there, now all of the recorded matches except the doubles matches are here. like i said, kuro since you are in charge of the video stuff, do what you will with these.

also, like in the above post, critique, comment, tell me what you think

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

First off I'd like to say this grayfox guy isn't that good. With fox he didn't know how to SHTL or even double laser. He obviously didn't know the matchup because he just kept running into the jab flurry **** while you held it out there.

Not much to say about the fox match, don't loop on battlefield anyway.

His wolf was almost just as bad, you can't just leave out jab flurry though because wolf has moves that clash or out-prioritize it. You both got a little spammy with the smashing each other's shield at times. Best to just go for a grab after you shield their smash because most of the time they will shield. It's only good to smash after if their smash has bad cooldown. Good wingstool finish, but again the wolf didn't know how to gimp you twice since he tried to dair you instead of simply shine spiking.

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

agreed. i didn't mean to do that glide against his fox either. i accidently hit back forth on the cstick trying to buffer a b reverse. and again agreed against his wolf, but i don't really play wolfs often and i figured since he kept running into jab with fox that it would work. what im more interested in is critique against razer. i mean ya i didn't play super safe against grayfox because i knew i didn't need to put in as much effort to win. however, razer and illmatic are who i need the most critique on.

btw thank you for the critique

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

vs razer
:06 uhhh dthrow? Why didn't you go for the cg with a dash attack follow up??? Don't go for fancy reads on characters we have guarenteed percent on.

1:07 Don't smash as a panic button, Snakes will spotdodge all the damn time so learn their habits. Use more jab combo because it will punish their spot dodge. You lost a stock due to panicking.

1:18 I don't know if you're trying to block nades with woi or w/e, but it get you out of their blast zone so its a bad idea.

3:01 A normal get up would have enough invincibility to dodge the c4, don't roll on the stage when you're over 100% just normal get up.

4:34 You did the same thing and got punished for it. Also earlier in the vid you did a bthrow instead of fthrow cg. You probably wanted some clutch edgeguard kill, but its better to get as much percent as you can and slowly build the clutch. That is more practical on Snake. You shouldn't be playing on battlefield game 1 anyway, its Snake's best neutral.

Game 2

First 30 seconds: Yeah, you know how to camp and avoid the cg, but razer said **** it and got in there and started ****** you anyways. You need to think more and calm down because after every hit you tried to hit him immediately after which he, as falco, easily punished. Fly away and rethink things before you just throw out attacks.

2:20 Too much AR you're throwing out there. It has horrible cooldown and Falco will surely kill you if he is behind you using it.

3:40 uhhh

3:48 Not ****ing worth it

4:14 Wow that hurt even MY pride.

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

Guess Ill critique illmatic too:

Good dair camping, you got him a couple times there. It seems effective against Peach.

1:20 Not a good idea. I would rather take a turnip lol.

You should learn to time a z-catch and throw lol, also he would be dead if fsmash was fresh at 130

3:20 nice try with the z drop to bair. Mindgamed even me a little bit, too bad no sweetspot.

3:34 You gotta learn the AR is giving you more damage than them. This one led to that horrid string of uairs which led to you playing scared and getting to over 100% and off the stage. It's a bad move to just throw out there so I don't want to see people use it more than 3 to 5 times in a match.

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

thank you sir. i just watched those and read your post together and i see your points. i think i just get to flustered up against pros like that and forget about things like the cg and just try to play as fast and random as i can. idk but i just feel so pressured when im against razer and gnes and illmatic and other pros like i have to impress them or something. idk what my problem is there tbh.

but ya everything you said held true. ill work on that shiz and remember to stop trying to be impressive and just to play smart. thx you sir

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

It happens to all of us, especially me. One thing that gets me less stressed about high level play is something NOID, the samus, told me. If you pretend that they are a scrub, they will play like a scrub. lol. It may seem stupid, but it will get you playing smart again.

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

wow thanks for that bit luckay. i get, if i think they are better than me, im right. and if i think im better than them, im right. i like your logic man. so taking top 10 next month at HOBO32 circuit. im gonna be practicing like mad to get better and get more vids for you guys as well.

 

[Kuro~]

MAHA DOING MY TIME STAMP FOR PEACH MATCH NOW! I'll also go over marth match. I'll avoid the fox/wolf one. Any other you want me to look at specifically?

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

snake is a definate. i want to beat razer at the next tourney.

HEY GUYS, thx for taking the time to watch my vids, i appreciate it a lot. im so close to breaking the point between good and great.

which leads to my next question, besides what luckay already said, how do you keep calm at a tourney? i was so hyped and stressed at one the point in between the rounds against razer that my stomach had extremely painful cramps and it lasted until i was out of the tourney.

 

[Kuro~]

Ignore i messed up

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

My calm down solutions.


In-game: After/during getting ***** or after giving some **** run to the other side of the stage and take a deep breath carefully thinking about what they want to do to you and what you should do to stop them.

After a game: Get up, stretch, deep breath, take off jacket etc.

 

[Kuro~]

0:12 NO DON'T FSMASH IN THAT SITUATION. That's a mistake made several times throughout the video. It's best to upsmash, sliding usmash, retreating fair, retreating dair, or...get ready...JUST RUN AWAY ON FOOT. It works

0:15-20ish nice dair camping THIS IS VITAL FOR THE MATCHUP. LIKE VIIIIIIITAL!!!!! Learn when to use dair and how long she can float how her angles affect when and where we should retreat dair, when dair can beat her fair etc etc.

0:22 same mistake as 0:12

after 0:22 see dair camping works when mixed with other anti-approach options.

0:45 in that instance it would of been best...again...to just run away and arrow. Her dair is pretty **** so if you don't preplan your strike it can catch u offguard. Her nair is good to. She wasn't at a height where you had a legit follow up so you took damage for greed.

Also, don't think of them as a player. Think of them as a character. You fight ally? Cool, it's just a snake. You know his options. Play your best. That's all. You can only do your best and learn from it. Laughing is good for me. I just have a good time unless it's mk. Then i rage when something stupiid i saw coming but couldn't counter happens.
0:52 BAD MAHA. BREAK THAT HABIT. You did it SEVERAL times throughout the video without ever even mixing it up. You just attacked. Imo when using glide attack from OFFSTAGE it's best just to use it to get the ledge.

0:59 bad choice. Here you should of either glided to other side of stage into ground cancel into pivot arrow. Or just waited on ledge or ledge hop dair. Idk why you baired. Didn't even fair.

1:16 at least the glide was from onstage. Glide is pretty amazing when used at the right times and not from the obvious offstage attack situation. Except against peach you have to be super strict with it cuz her fair beats our glide (not if we do it as she's doing it. Then we hit each other) But she can use the disjointedness to hit us before we think we can hit her.

1:18 should of glided away in that position. Peach can't match our speed with glide so it's a great escape tool in a bunch of situations. You just have to recognize when.

1:22 bad~!!!! Either just wait...and plank. "A" catch it, Insta throw it back, or just PS and respond. Or FH dair catch it to toss down to wing stall fair

2:04 PS PS PS PS PS PS PS PS PS PS

2:48 again keep it to Sh nair, retreating fair, FH dair. No reason to fsmash in that situation at all. Also, be careful with all the side-b she can fair our side b rather easily tbh.

3:02 yay you did the right thing ^^. Now recognize when this is safe and you'll be golden.

3:14 just stay safe when planking. You died unnecessarily.

3:34-****: SDI SDI SDI SDI SDI SDI SDI SDI SDI SDI SDI SDI SDI SDI. Though it was one of your first matches against peach and even i didn't know about "that" string. But always be prepared to sdi dair.... and now uair haha. Also, you could of FF dair her uair string once she got you past the ground float part. Which was like...50ish%?Idk don't feel liek rewinding again

3:41 bad fsmash. Bad.

3:44 you were already against the ledge, why roll again?

3:51 now that was a good use of glair. Options she had- Float in which case she couldnt dodge or uair which would of traded and thus netting you a kill anyways. Since you were approaching vertically fair wasn't a logical choice unless she floated backwards to a timed-spaced fair. In which case you could of divebombed to the ledge safely.

4:07 unsafe edge choice=death. Also, get better at planking and patience with it okay? More ledge fall retreating arrows and going to other side etc, etc, etc.

Ok i'll do snake. But i saw more general problems so i won't time stamp it.

 

[Abel1994]

So much videos.

Good **** man! good ****

 

[Xcallion]

Also, don't think of them as a player. Think of them as a character. You fight ally? Cool, it's just a snake. You know his options. Play your best. That's all.

No, exact opposite. you need to remember what character they are and keep their options in mind, but it's a player your going against, not a character. if we went with this we'd play every snake MU the exact same which is NOT a good plan. learn your opponent's habits, remember anything you've seen that they like to do in their vids and use it against them. Remember what you learned in Match one and take it with you to match two. even if they change characters the only thing they've changed is thier options. they still have the same mind, same habits and almost certainly a similar playstyle.

 

[Kuro~]

No, exact opposite. you need to remember what character they are and keep their options in mind, but it's a player your going against, not a character. if we went with this we'd play every snake MU the exact same which is NOT a good plan. learn your opponent's habits, remember anything you've seen that they like to do in their vids and use it against them. Remember what you learned in Match one and take it with you to match two. even if they change characters the only thing they've changed is thier options. they still have the same mind, same habits and almost certainly a similar playstyle.

Uh no. No matter the player they can only do what their character allows. Mixups are still apart of a character. Your taking it entirely out of context so i'm just gonna stop here.

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

kuro.... wutt abowt meh vid vs razuh?