Luckay4Lyphe
Smash Master
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Learn how to earn your wings! A pit video critique thread :)
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Maharba the Mystic
Smash Master
wat luckay said. also don't 4get that when ur against flack-oh if u let him past the tip of your jab u now have 3 options to compete with him, utilt, grab, and WOI. try anything else=you get jabbed or grabbed. also #1 spacing move on the ground (ESPECIALLY against falco) is dtilt. try this concept. you have more range than falco does. so with that in mind you make him earn getting close to u. if he can't get past dtilt, fair (kinda, use fair as a mix up), ftilt, and jab (all of these are longer than fsmash fyi) then he can't do anything but get hit by our ranged moves. oh and practice teching
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Esca
Smash Champion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDg-kwBpoRc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsjxGc1Kwks&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA6JU5YZrD8&feature=related
Third one is mk for ****z, and i know they're doubles but they're all against super competant players so they're critiquable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsjxGc1Kwks&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA6JU5YZrD8&feature=related
Third one is mk for ****z, and i know they're doubles but they're all against super competant players so they're critiquable.
Kuro~
Nitoryu Kuro
i watched the one of u vs gnes kirby and ozz fox good job stock tanking. I cant really critique u as well since it IS doubles but nice synergy with illmatic just try to not shoot em so much lol.
Maharba the Mystic
Smash Master
@esca.
stop spamming fsmash and start spamming dtilt when ur not sure whether they are in fsmash range and not even at killing percents. also for when you try and arrow rain at picto stop trying to do it the figure 8 way. just do a horshoe but end it at a slightly towards you angle. then if the first arrow didn't go where u wanted it to u will at least be able to see that and correct ur stick placement. when we kick it hopefully sometime soon ill show you some of my particular ways to loop that are (imo and kinda proven) superior to the conventional ways of looping. however unfortunately it's not something i can explain in writing.
@abel ill check ur other stuff out later. gotta go to that hot waitres's party (aww yeeyuh. ima just might get it on 2nizzight...)
stop spamming fsmash and start spamming dtilt when ur not sure whether they are in fsmash range and not even at killing percents. also for when you try and arrow rain at picto stop trying to do it the figure 8 way. just do a horshoe but end it at a slightly towards you angle. then if the first arrow didn't go where u wanted it to u will at least be able to see that and correct ur stick placement. when we kick it hopefully sometime soon ill show you some of my particular ways to loop that are (imo and kinda proven) superior to the conventional ways of looping. however unfortunately it's not something i can explain in writing.
@abel ill check ur other stuff out later. gotta go to that hot waitres's party (aww yeeyuh. ima just might get it on 2nizzight...)
Maharba the Mystic
Smash Master
k i had some down time now.
@abel
more dtilt, more AR edgeguard, literally don't bother approaching until ur at 36%, and to buffer the DACG it is right near the end of when pit brings his arm in after throwing (when he does that thing that looks like a "ha ha i just threw you" kinda pose thing)
@abel
more dtilt, more AR edgeguard, literally don't bother approaching until ur at 36%, and to buffer the DACG it is right near the end of when pit brings his arm in after throwing (when he does that thing that looks like a "ha ha i just threw you" kinda pose thing)
Flutter NiTE
Smash Lord
Damn good videos. Trying to get him as my secondary, these help. Thanks
Xcallion
Smash Ace
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoKtINuiU1k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP_xc5pV_0k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8SXbtgP_s0
I didnt do many WoI or arrow looping tricksies because i didnt want to risk it against someone who could punish such things as easily as Sonic can.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP_xc5pV_0k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8SXbtgP_s0
I didnt do many WoI or arrow looping tricksies because i didnt want to risk it against someone who could punish such things as easily as Sonic can.
Maharba the Mystic
Smash Master
ill critique 2morrow. so tired....
Esca
Smash Champion
Yeah i know what you mean, dtilt is my second nature with my other characters, I just don't use it with Pit too much for some odd reason. Fsmash is just a better trade-off to me in teams. I use it so much because i can spam the **** out of it, and arrow to refresh my moves so fast.
And its ridiculous that I can't arrow rain yet lmfao. Pretty sad tbh, but i was just doin it for ****s. Itd be cool if you helped me learn it.
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Esca you should roll away more, and maybe a little less spotdodge. Spotdodge habits are a lot easier to punish in doubles from my experience. Pits roll away is really good, and especially since u fox trot so much, its a good way to get out of a bad position (such as when ur shielding next to fox, unless ur at usmash kill percent). If u watch top falco players thats like their reset button, and pit is pretty similar in that regard.
Nice stuff tho, ur a good stock tank.
Nice stuff tho, ur a good stock tank.
Maharba the Mystic
Smash Master
trust me esca. i literally practiced on a giant streted map every possible way too loop and ive come to realize which single arrow loops (and some multi-1s like 4arrow rain) work best. however if you wanna get crazy raining skills down talk 2 yass lol. i honestly don't really care 4 multi rain due to how often it is not anywhere near the best option. (not saying it doesn't have it's place. im just saying that place is rare in occurance)
now time to go critique abel.
now time to go critique abel.
Maharba the Mystic
Smash Master
@ abel. you have all the right tools. ur only problem is u don't have enough practice using them. honestly u just gotta practice wats already been told 2 ya and the falco mu is ur's to own.
@xcallion. im watching ur vids now and will post in a while
@xcallion. im watching ur vids now and will post in a while
Pitzer
The Young Lion
K, So I have a Vid that is gonna get uploaded it's a MM vs Sharky a Yoshi main. Dtilt Spike Twice 
Also Guys if you want to punish better instead of using F-smash use D-smash It's faster. Im using d-smash more.
Also Guys if you want to punish better instead of using F-smash use D-smash It's faster. Im using d-smash more.
Luckay4Lyphe
Smash Master
The second hit punishes rolls too, I use it to keep fsmash fresh.
Gadiel_VaStar
Smash Champion
Hey guys, I love Admiral's style on BF. Check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WTDOfAu1Z4
He really embodies Pit's platform canceling techniques and some of his planking game. I think it can be taken even further w/ more arrows, and gliding.
He really embodies Pit's platform canceling techniques and some of his planking game. I think it can be taken even further w/ more arrows, and gliding.
Maharba the Mystic
Smash Master
HaPPY BIRTHday GADIEL!!!!
Luckay4Lyphe
Smash Master
O word? Happy birthday *****!
Gadiel_VaStar
Smash Champion
Luckay4Lyphe
Smash Master
Anyways, I should have vids of my pool up sometime this week, depends on what rPSI is doing.
Uploading a money match vs Noid's sheik to our YT page.
Uploading a money match vs Noid's sheik to our YT page.
Gadiel_VaStar
Smash Champion
I saw the 1st two minutes of the first vid. I can say that I like your patience and calmness while you play. I saw you get hit by Sonic's f-smash at least 3 times in a row. Whenever you get hit or whenever you do something that doesn't work, either try it again and see why or correct your mistake and don't allow it to happen again--and in this case, don't get hit by Sonic's f-smash more than twice! See why he hit you and fix it. Otherwise, I think you just need more time to play Pit. Also, it seems like your movements were a bit delayed so work on your swiftness in your thinking and reaction time.
Maharba the Mystic
Smash Master
oh crap sry xcallion. i was watchin ur vids and my net died and then i forgot to go back and watch em again. ill have u a summary by 1:00pm tx time
Pitzer
The Young Lion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-V3GTQk94A There me vs sharky
Maharba the Mystic
Smash Master
xcallion im only doing vid 3
00:27 whenever ur popped like that it always is best to use bair as the punish (or so ive found)
00:30 nair is best used aa when they are at the 45 degree angle. should've just used uair
just in general when sonic is rushing you with a spin dash whether he starts in the air or not always try to get out infinite jab asap as that will just tear through sonic
02:20-ish. a lot of your close encounter problems (like when ur side stepping a grab or jab and ur chars are touching) can be solved with more utilt
02:45 when u see that go down u should instinctively go for a dtilt spike. just cause it's hard to pull off don't mean u shouldn't recongnize the time to use it
02:59 AR>that longated jump they do out of spin (forgot the technical term for it)
ther u go
00:27 whenever ur popped like that it always is best to use bair as the punish (or so ive found)
00:30 nair is best used aa when they are at the 45 degree angle. should've just used uair
just in general when sonic is rushing you with a spin dash whether he starts in the air or not always try to get out infinite jab asap as that will just tear through sonic
02:20-ish. a lot of your close encounter problems (like when ur side stepping a grab or jab and ur chars are touching) can be solved with more utilt
02:45 when u see that go down u should instinctively go for a dtilt spike. just cause it's hard to pull off don't mean u shouldn't recongnize the time to use it
02:59 AR>that longated jump they do out of spin (forgot the technical term for it)
ther u go
Maharba the Mystic
Smash Master
ptzr those aren't critique vids. those are **** vids! i wanna play ur pit so bad now... u got a great understanding of how pits moves work
Pitzer
The Young Lion
Lol thanks dude. Yeah dtilt spike works better backwards on certain people who can't really sweetspot the edge
Maharba the Mystic
Smash Master
did not know that. got a list of who those characters are perchance?
Pitzer
The Young Lion
Yoshi, Wario if he up-b's, Wolf if he misses the ledge with side-b and drops from the edge.
Maharba the Mystic
Smash Master
if wolf misses the ledge he's dead anyways lol. but thx u sir.
Luckay4Lyphe
Smash Master
I mean yoshi is bad unless you're poltergust, but yeah props to you for them dtilt spikes. You're a better smarter Pit than me as of right now. I feel as though my pikachu has surpassed my Pit so I'm going to put more work into my main angel.
btw, can dtilt spike clash with wario up b then? I feel like his up b would beat it out.
btw, can dtilt spike clash with wario up b then? I feel like his up b would beat it out.
Xcallion
Smash Ace
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thank you. i'll keep these in mind from now on.
Kuro~
Nitoryu Kuro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYFi2KqSKvU found a vid of you luckay. Ill prolly critique it myself later though maha u should take a crak at it. Esca? Dezzy?PTZR?
Luckay4Lyphe
Smash Master
lol I just commented on that and realized I was logged onto our group YT profile
I'm so bad vs mk
Edit: Just watched the whole vid and shook my head almost as much as when I was actually playing even though I already knew the outcome.
I'm so bad vs mk
Edit: Just watched the whole vid and shook my head almost as much as when I was actually playing even though I already knew the outcome.
Maharba the Mystic
Smash Master
beeep beeeep. beeep beeeeep. this is maha. im on it
aka luckay ill critique this hard core for you soon. but everyone im warning u right now that the way i play mk has not only become successfull against the mks i play, it's a style that is unique to me (with fundamentals of others of course but overall it's mine). however it involves such a high amount of gay play that i almost can't bear it which is why i hate the mu still. so when you see something typed and ur like "maha u don't know wat ur talking about, thats crazy" just try it first and tell me how it goes.
alright that aside im downloading the vid. however if i pass out while watching ur summary will have to wait till tomorrow night
aka luckay ill critique this hard core for you soon. but everyone im warning u right now that the way i play mk has not only become successfull against the mks i play, it's a style that is unique to me (with fundamentals of others of course but overall it's mine). however it involves such a high amount of gay play that i almost can't bear it which is why i hate the mu still. so when you see something typed and ur like "maha u don't know wat ur talking about, thats crazy" just try it first and tell me how it goes.
alright that aside im downloading the vid. however if i pass out while watching ur summary will have to wait till tomorrow night
Maharba the Mystic
Smash Master
k luckay here goes. btw im only gonna point out each thing once
first 25 seconds of the match: it is better to use 3 hit jab and get him away as he can up b out of infinite but he didn't. also try spamming grounded woi to cancell out his nado. as long as u pay attention and have fast enough thumb spammage goin on this leads to punishes majority of the time. while it is hard to do (hell u don't even have to cancell all of it as even if you get hit at this point u will still be in range to punish somehow be it dair if u got hit up, arrow, various smashes, jab, or AR).
30s-40s: if meta is below u in the air, dair camp him. our dair>shuttle loop. learned that from masashi vs kobyashi. it is tried and true and can get u crazy kills.
47s: that's just bad luck that u didn't edge snap. it happens
50s-1m: should never approach meta. just run and pivot arrow. if he is chasing towards you and gets in AR range fake a run away and then wavebounce (or b reversal watevs) AR back towards him. since they are running and AR>his dash attack mk will usually eat some good damage from that.
1m19s: if u would have used bair instead of uair that would be ur first kill.
1m20s-1m30s: this is what im talking about dair camp that ****. it will work
1m35s: u should've mirrored that and u know it. also if you don't wanna woi spam like i said ealier jumping retreating mirror is good to escaper nado.
1m58s: grab him dude. don't forget we got fthrow>ss fsmash on that bat guarenteed
2m17s: never glide attack at mk specially if they expect it.
punish get ups with bair when u can.
there that was match 1. may do the others later but im tired. goodnight pit boards and luckay.
first 25 seconds of the match: it is better to use 3 hit jab and get him away as he can up b out of infinite but he didn't. also try spamming grounded woi to cancell out his nado. as long as u pay attention and have fast enough thumb spammage goin on this leads to punishes majority of the time. while it is hard to do (hell u don't even have to cancell all of it as even if you get hit at this point u will still be in range to punish somehow be it dair if u got hit up, arrow, various smashes, jab, or AR).
30s-40s: if meta is below u in the air, dair camp him. our dair>shuttle loop. learned that from masashi vs kobyashi. it is tried and true and can get u crazy kills.
47s: that's just bad luck that u didn't edge snap. it happens
50s-1m: should never approach meta. just run and pivot arrow. if he is chasing towards you and gets in AR range fake a run away and then wavebounce (or b reversal watevs) AR back towards him. since they are running and AR>his dash attack mk will usually eat some good damage from that.
1m19s: if u would have used bair instead of uair that would be ur first kill.
1m20s-1m30s: this is what im talking about dair camp that ****. it will work
1m35s: u should've mirrored that and u know it. also if you don't wanna woi spam like i said ealier jumping retreating mirror is good to escaper nado.
1m58s: grab him dude. don't forget we got fthrow>ss fsmash on that bat guarenteed
2m17s: never glide attack at mk specially if they expect it.
punish get ups with bair when u can.
there that was match 1. may do the others later but im tired. goodnight pit boards and luckay.