Learn how to earn your wings! A pit video critique thread :)

[Kuro~]

K i'll read the rest after. Like i said above i had another set with a peach of=skill level recorded that im gonna post so you can compare them for me. I feel i did better in the other one. Cuz i started noticing things. And i tried to take the beam sword when it was on the right bottom platform xD just missed the z-grab...

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

02.30-02.40 same as earlier. Arrows from the ledge. also as pit i would suggest if you have to WOI like you did there just go to the other side because it won't hurt you in any way and if he had guessed that you were staying there you would have died.

around 02.53 when you landed you should have either gone for utilt or usmash as it looked to me like either would have worked.

03.00 i know i said i won't point out your successes but from there until you used bair instead of fair again at 03.40ish that was pretty much how its done. good job.

the rest of this match is the same advice as earlier pretty much. overall really i would just say study your options as your option diet was lacking in some key ingredients. keep it up sir and you will prevail.

 

[Kuro~]

He's the set vs the other peach

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DR_hVsI2xQ&feature=sub

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gLSuND3gvg&feature=sub

another of me vs mk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXIpZrrrvsg&feature=sub

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2Jcct9TmKc this one is my snake but its funny how i take his last stock...

and i would like this peach set done to if possible

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

my net is being so SLOW. expect me to finish my write ups on these at... well here in norcal its 6:51pm so expect them to be critiqued around 9:00pm norcal time.

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

The one at Smashville.

honestly its just the same stuff. right time wrong move. however i do commend you for this one as you had a spike and a snipe. you also seemed to get a hang of the MU better as you played in this one.

when they spam turnips drop back off the ledge and jump with AR.

At Battlefield

i am not just saying this to you but to EVERYONE THAT MAINS PIT AND SEES THIS why the hell does no one else use nair (and im not talking about just peach on that statement)? even against good shields it tends to poke. also we can nair kinda to the same effect (well at least timing more than effect) with short hop auto cancell fast fall into stuff like jab and grab. hell just spamming nair in a crescent back and forth over someone can work like a charm if you keep correct spacing. once fair and nair dont do the job against peach, then dair is good because if she isn't dead by now dair will kill her.

 

[Kuro~]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEwpHnA4AP8 heres another match for your enjoyment~

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

You can get peach with an usmash oos after she dairs you once. If she spaces it properly, just use a hyphen smash, but it may require some predicting because missing or using it too late will get you punished.

Peach's hitboxes are huge so you have to be really careful when approaching her. She can also weave in and out with her floating ability. Her main objective is to float in the air and wait for you to attack. Simply don't attack and stay on the ground at a reasonable distance because she will also fall with a fair or a quick nair.

If you think you can get her then jump up and get a fair tipper like Maharba said because it's the only thing you can do safely when she's in the air. She can fair you, but that move is laggy so she won't challenge our fair with it. If you hesitate on the ground then she will come at you with fair. Don't try to punish this as she can cancel it into a jab so just roll away and arrow or start thinking of your next counterattack. Approaching works best from 45 degree angles because they are just out of her range of moves like dair. Normally her dair can beat our uair, but the sides of our uair will win. For the most part, do not try to punish her, Peach has abnormal spacing abilities and a lot of her moves cancel into each other.

We have to make use of Pit's good rolls in this matchup because they let us escape quickly and get in quickly.

Keep planking to a minimum in this matchup and don't just do it. You have to have smart planking otherwise, Peach will float and punish, use toad, or simply hover over you and dair because it defeats uair. She is excellent at edgeguarding with her floating so the safest thing to do if you can uair or fair her away from the ledge is to just woi to the other side and get on stage quickly.

Full hop your straight arrows and curve them downwards accordingly so you can hit her on the ground or if she's floating.

Use slow jab instead of jab infinite because she DI'd out of the infinite and punished your ending lag.

Turnip spam is hard to get around, but you can get her with some surprise angel rings or grabbing the turnip with a fair. Only tap angel ring once because holding it will get you punished. When she has a beam sword you need get in and make sure she drops it as fast as possible. Take it, or make sure it's gone. Stitch face turnips are hard to recognize until you get hit by one, but if you do then the Peach will try to regrab it and use it more wisely so watch out.

When killing, make sure that fsmash is fresh when Peach is around 125% to 140%. It will be hard to get in a bair kill because she has that air mobility so don't rely on that.

Oh, and what Maharba said about nair. It is really good on stages with platforms like battlefield. It comes out quicker than uair so sharking with it will punish more often. If you start with an uair shark at their shield then quickly change to a nair shark and you will most likely shield poke them.

 

[Kuro~]

K thx. Ill get a handle on the mu soon. And tbh everytime i jabbed i tried to do the slow one but out of pure muscle memory did the infinite on accident i wont lose next time

 

[Abel1994]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C04MguQ4Ziw

game 3 T.T

 

[CYVE]

- don't and i mean like almost NEVER go offstage against a mk
-> a good mk will take your stock
- you spotdodge too often, someone posted a melee vid about this
-> people spotdodge because they are afraid of getting grabbed

try just simply walking around instead of rolling

that's it for the moment.
uhm.. and avoid bf against mk

 

[Abel1994]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8hzGv5S-Oc&feature=player_profilepage

 

[Kaffei]

(smir k)

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

Here's a tourney set vs MD/VA's PR #9 I have more trouble with GaW, but I would like the first game critique'd too because gimr was rusty with his ice climbers and messed up the cg a couple times.

M1

M2

M3

 

[Kuro~]

Here's a tourney set vs MD/VA's PR #9 I have more trouble with GaW, but I would like the first game critique'd too because gimr was rusty with his ice climbers and messed up the cg a couple times.

M1

M2

M3

ill get to these today. which one do u want done first?

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

Doesn't matter which ones. Whichever you're more experienced in.

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

you played the g&w match fine to me. i don't really know how to fight g&w and the fact that you got GIMR down to his last stock is amazing to me. that match seriously needs a secondary. idc wat any one else says ever i will always say that it is 65:35 g&w favor. good job except the next time you make me listen to that much pokemon music ill eat you lol. but seriously just get secondary for g&w. it is so gay man i can't even watch (yes that whole sentence is a long g&w pun).

 

[BlaizeRaz0r]

Not super good quality, but it's the first video someone posted of me at a tournament. This was a fund raiser tournament at Boston University. This was the set that knocked me out of the tournament. I got 7th out of about 25.

Game 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl9i0hzxiS8
Game 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX8gEIx47c4

Any and all comments are welcome! This was my fourth tournament, and I've been a Pit main for a little under a year. Thanks guys

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

so far i see you gliding towards lucario. don't do that unless he 100% cannot punish you cause he will every time. also you are a little side step happy but i have the same prob lol. aside form that looks like you're pretty good with teh pitz. gtg back home now thos or else i would be more in depth

 

[Blubolouis]

Yo guys, here's a recent vid of my pit. I didn't take any other replays unfortunately.
I already found some of my obvious flaws (airdodge>utilt: not always a good idea; marth's nair is broken...) but please critique!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIzAqsvcAR4

 

[CYVE]

Yo guys, here's a recent vid of my pit. I didn't take any other replays unfortunately.
I already found some of my obvious flaws (airdodge>utilt: not always a good idea; nair's marth is broken...) but please critique!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIzAqsvcAR4

what are your recording settings and how do you get SUCH a good quality?

xO

 

[Blubolouis]

I only know it has to do with the dolphin emulator, sorry x)

 

[Kuro~]

Here's a tourney set vs MD/VA's PR #9 I have more trouble with GaW, but I would like the first game critique'd too because gimr was rusty with his ice climbers and messed up the cg a couple times.

M1

M2

M3

ima do a time stamp review of g3 just cuz i see that as the best one to do so with after FF through bits and pieces. I will say one thing...if u CP'd ps2 dont ever do that against GaW again...ever.

 

[Abel1994]

ima do a time stamp review of g3 just cuz i see that as the best one to do so with after FF through bits and pieces. I will say one thing...if u CP'd ps2 dont ever do that against GaW again...ever.

Go make a video thread like the one on Wolf were they have Wolf vs other typpes of charectors and all organized and sexy
Here

 

[deathbygoten]

hey pits boards its been awhile i have a vid that i would like to get critiqued
this vid was and upset in a tourney in the summer where i beat a really good player
here is game 3. the first 2 could not be saved.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDmzHR7-9Tk

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

I'll critique it.

0:15 This shouldn't happen. First of all count your jumps so you aren't forced to use up b that low. Second, pick hugging the stage or flying away. You picked in the middle which is why you got gimped. Go to the edge and get the invincible frames or fly away and up out of Falco's reach and fall back to the stage with an aerial.

0:24 Stay away from falco and camp until you are at 30% because Falco's are grab hungry when you're at 0. Even if you are a stock down, get that 30% before you get aggressive because this put you in an even worse situation.

1:28 You can't mirror shield illusion. If you time it right you can interrupt it with angel ring and then mirror shield his up b. When he uses it.

1:31 lol

Overall you got very luckay. Bair at his illusion, he didn't DI which got him killed early and also that dtilt spike. Angel ring on the ice is legit though, lol I love doing that. I really don't see why you wanted this critiqued because hardly anything happened.

 

[dskank]

Yo guys, here's a recent vid of my pit. I didn't take any other replays unfortunately.
I already found some of my obvious flaws (airdodge>utilt: not always a good idea; marth's nair is broken...) but please critique!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIzAqsvcAR4

epic comeback

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

:08 don't roll back with no space like that when someone that close to you. try jabbing

:16 never ever at pk stadiums and at YI brawl use your last jump to do anything but land or ledgegrab. since you can't go under the stage you are far more succeptible to gimping than anywhere else and good players know this.

no matter what camp falco until you have 36%-40% even if you purposely get hit by reflected arrows. his cg is deadly on pit.

okay at 01:02 nice gimp and such. however i've not seen you handle falco properly up close until then and that was a stage gimic. when you are close to falco you need to use you dtilt a lot. it outranges him and has monsterous priority for some reason. also more 3 hit jab and AR.

after that circumstance and very good reaction time won you that match. noice >.<

 

[Abel1994]

Where is the chat room so I can fight other Pit players?

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

we have a chat?

 

[Abel1994]

I dont no!

 

[Pitzer]

One without an Admiral Pit lurking around would be nice...

 

[Abel1994]

One without an Admiral Pit lurking around would be nice...

lol I use to look up to him but when I saw him on AiB and said hi can I compare Pit's with you and he said "im the only on who mains pit" then I raged on him .

 

[CHOMPY]

Here's some tournament videos I want you guys to check out.

$1 Money Match- Chompy vs. DayJayMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT70Wml5ATk Game 1 Smashville

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFXK-3xVses Game 2 Yoshis Island


Losers Bracket Round 1- Chompy vs. TWSS Game 2 Norfair

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tkV3zp76p4 Game 2 Norfair


I know from watching the videos, there are some things I felt were missing, but I need your insight on what I should be doing instead, like should I camp more, or using different moves. If I can get some insight on insight of what I'm doing wrong, that would be helpful!

Thank you!

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

im only critiqing DK at smashville for now.

0:05 good job with the cg however you could have gotten in more damage with the walking regrab

1:30 while you should have just gone to the other side nice save with the footstool. so far you could use a little more jab infinite when hes close but so far you're doing great

1:36 fail. i mean its not a major flaw or something but when you side stepped you should have grabbed him after that. a lot of free damage wasted

1:40-2:00 dude stop rolling, punishing rolls is what DK does. you getting worried because being next to a big character with powerful attacks seems intimidating. however all your fast attacks combined with priority beat dk up close. you way more jab, dtilt, and sh nair arc so far

2:33 after the side step you should literally have just spammed utilt, it will always win when you are that close to dk and you will rack up some nice damage.

seriously gotta learn that if you use WOI that it is always safer to go the side that they aren't on. the kill at 2:59 could have easily been avoided by this

punish with dsmash more and save fsmash for later on when you need kills. i know it's easier to just mash the c-stick backwards but just take the time to pivot and punish those rolls with anything but fsmash

over all you have an amazing pit chompy. why don't you ever post.

 

[Pitzer]

0:12 - Should've uptilted.

0:22 - was a grab opportunity

0:23 - lolz trip.

0:27 dair would've had terrible landing lag, dk could've punished with something harder.

0:36 - Late Bair, bair would've pushed him away from you, but he could've still grabbed.

0:42 - Uair attempt, Bad position, and it was late you would've had landing lag, dk would've been sent to your left and could've baired.

1:02 - Accidental side B im guessing.

1:07 - Uptilt would've been better.

1:15 - You're not mk you can't get away with that lol

1:21 - Late bair again.

1:32 - LOLOLOLOOLOL you was lucky xD, don't try to recov when a person is chillen there near the edge. You should've went to the other side.

1:40-2:00 - Why are you rolling so much? Don't be afraid. Spot dodge if you have to.

tbh this match looked like you where playing on wifi with all the whiffed grabs.

You gotta lrn to buferr those pivot arrows.

3:00 - LOLOL

3:21 - you would've died if you held right a little longer.

3:42 - should've f-smash after the cg.

 

[Pitzer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crLTKoZprzg Old vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjSjvdOOvto&feature=related Old vid.

 

[Luckay4Lyphe]

Chompy you are staling your kill moves. Punish with jab or dsmash instead of fsmash and only use fsmash when your opponent is at least at 120. You did good against gaw for the most part. Remember you can shark with uair closer to the middle on norfair's platform.

Edit: get some more recent vids ptzr

 

[Pitzer]

I would if I could upload or send vids.

 

[CHOMPY]

Thank you so much for sharing me the in-depth detail of how I should handle situations differently, like what moves I should use instead. It gave me a better understanding on how to use Pit more effectively to it's fullest potential.


@ Everyone-Just from reading all of the comments, it sounds like you want me to Utilt when I'm right next to the character, even if my opponent's character is facing the other direction.


@ Patriotic Zero (PTZR)- Bair is something I need to work on. For some reason, I have a hard time landing with the move and I don't know how to use it to it's fullest potential.


@ Lukay4Lyphe- Dsmash is something I need to work on, I can't seem to punish my opponent with that move and I don't know how to. Do you have any suggestions on how I should incorporate that move to my game?

 

[Kuro~]

I would if I could upload or send vids.

Next tourney take ur own sd card. save YOUR matches to said sd card after each one. Then take said sd card and load to mediafire for free. Voila som1 can record for u.

Chopmy- Use WoI to grab the ledge instead. You like didnt do that at all on norfair...also if ur at kill% just fill up the bucket and plank/camp his a$$ on norfair.