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MegaRobMan · Mar 25, 2012

Link is good on any stage that doesn't limit his recovery (i.e. walk off stages are great for him assuming he isn't facing D3).

It's my understanding that BF is Links best neutral, PS1 sounds like the 2nd option.

Delfino is my favorite stage for Link, though.

escro · Mar 25, 2012

i try not to play on anything that isnt battlefield or smashville
i hate YI and FD

Huggles828 · Mar 25, 2012

Pretty much what they said.

BF and PS1 are good neutrals. I like Smashville a lot too. Lylat's bad for Link, although I'm alright with playing there against characters who also really hate it, like the spacies.

Norfair's probably Link's dream stage. Brinstar is good as long as your opponent doesn't also really like it.

Personally I really dislike both Delfino and Japes.

MegaRobMan · Mar 25, 2012

Why don't you like Delfino? Link is good in the water.

Rizen · Mar 25, 2012

Most stages for Link are preference/opponent based on how good they are.
Take Delfino, a nightmare vs DDD but a decent choice vs Olimar. RC good vs Ike, maybe Wolf, etc but suicide vs jigglypuff etc.
Frigate's Link's worst stage for sure, but most depend on factors like the opponent. This contributes to Link's bad MUs because on every stage there are characters who get more of a boost or outright murder Link that the opponent can CP. CGs limit Link's good stages a lot; he is vulnerable to most CGs besides Wario's and a few others.

Dyclone · Mar 26, 2012

Scabe said:
We have Lzr to thank for all this action lmao.

Speaking of LzR...

-LzR- said:
Arrows are actually useful, bombs are amazing and boomerang barely does anything except for some once in a lifetime combovideo moments.

I like this guy.

BryE · Mar 26, 2012

Dyclone said:
I like this guy.

"once in a lifetime combovideo moments."

I keep loling at that. If it was "once in a lifetime", why does it keep happening to most Link players in almost every match? lmao

BryE · Mar 27, 2012

Also guys, I've been messing around with brawl textures and I got this.

I don't know much about editing Brawl textures and such, but this is all I got for now.

-LzR- · Mar 27, 2012

Dyclone said:
Speaking of LzR...

I like this guy.

The arrows are quick and simply to do some damage and mixing stuff up. Boomerang though is incredibly slow and you have to be on the other side of the stage to even throw that thing without letting your opponent **** your face. Not cool. Even worse is that the "awesome" boomerang wind gimmicks that are cool don't do anything better than if it actually did damage on the way back. Boomberang for bottom tier

Rizen · Mar 27, 2012

Anyway...

I might as well start this here.
What are your favorite and least favorite MUs? This doesn't directly relate to how hard a MU is or what characters you use. People will have different reasons and it's all opinions.

My favorite MUs are:
Wolf- because it's the only ditto I enjoy.
Snake- a love/hate MU. He can keep my characters on their toes in intense spacing games.
Pokemon Trainer-All 3 characters are fun and keep the match fresh.
Mario- a good Mario can push spacing and mix-up battles to the extreme.
ZSS- Bio is an incredible ZSS player and our games were super intense and fun. ZSS's unique spacing and style really make you have to think.

My least favorite MUs are:
MK- Tornado, tornado, tornado, tornado... His UpB is absurdly broken and he's often used as a pocket character for when someone's main character(s) is in trouble. A nightmare on several stages like Brinstar.
Snake- Jab/Ftilt/Nair/Dair are infuriatingly broken and spammable in lag. Snake simply outclasses most characters in power, reach and how long he lives.
Link- Link dittos can be fun but they're a speed/spacing battle mixed with a rock paper scissors attack mindgame. Shield grab>jab combo>spotdodge & punish>shield grab etc, and more complicated things too.
For some reason I feel bad gimping Link with my higher characters.
DK- He's hard to space and his grab>Fthrow hop offstage>throw stage spike is annoying.
Falco- His CG>Spike is a pain and good Falcos camp really hard.
DDD- "Don't get grabbed."
Jigglypuff- Hard to catch and hard to space; the fight feels like a weird hit and run battle.
Lucario- Fsmash. He's no Mewtwo.
Pikachu- IDK why I don't like this MU; it's just annoying.
Ganondorf- Good Ganon's can make short work of the unprepared. The fight requires careful observation and not being reckless if you want to avoid devastating punishment. They don't catch my interest.

LordXav1er · Mar 27, 2012

How do you hate the Ganon MU? Its true he can do a lot of damage if you don't brace yourself =_=. As for Falco you shouldn't be getting CG to spiked anymore. There are numerous ways around that, also most can't fight a Link if that doesn't kill them.

escro · Mar 27, 2012

vs ganon is probably one of my more enjoyable matchups, although i havent vsed many good ganons so my opinion is probably uninformed
on the other hand ive vsed so many falcos. and i hate vsing him with any of my characters.

Huggles828 · Mar 27, 2012

I love every Ganon matchup ever... when I'm the one playing as Ganon

Being a hero of time is great, but every now and then it's just so satisfying to be a bearded ~~king of evil~~ old man hellbent on murdering everyone in his path.

I hate fighting DK, Marth and Falco the most, probably. DK and Marth are really hard to space and get things going against. Even when I'm doing well against a good Marth, the MU just feels janky and stupid. It's just impossible to do anything against a good Falco who actually knows how to fight Link.

Legan · Mar 27, 2012

ayooooo, I might get some vids uploaded of me vs some good ganons marth & falcos soon. Ironically. I picked link back up out of boredom and it might be better than it ever has been. I got alot of new tricks you guys might be able to pick up as well.

Scabe · Mar 27, 2012

Hell yeah! I'm so keen to see these vids.

BryE · Mar 27, 2012

loool. That's the first time I ever see Legan comment in the Link boards.

Rizen · Mar 27, 2012

LordXav1er said:
How do you hate the Ganon MU? Its true he can do a lot of damage if you don't brace yourself =_=. As for Falco you shouldn't be getting CG to spiked anymore. There are numerous ways around that, also most can't fight a Link if that doesn't kill them.

>Laser, laser, laser, laser, forwardB, <laser, laser, laser, forwardB, etc. Although I do enjoy it if the Falco's not smart enough to camp or the stage doesn't allow it and this doesn't happen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hoHXgN72Yzk#t=239s lol bomb drop.
vs Ganon doesn't hold my interest for some reason.

Legan said:
ayooooo, I might get some vids uploaded of me vs some good ganons marth & falcos soon. Ironically. I picked link back up out of boredom and it might be better than it ever has been. I got alot of new tricks you guys might be able to pick up as well.

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!
Welcome back!

Blacknight99923 · Mar 27, 2012

My favorite match up is metkangiht because I beat DEHFs metaknight in a friendly on Halberd with it.
hehehe

LordXav1er · Mar 27, 2012

Legan said:
ayooooo, I might get some vids uploaded of me vs some good ganons marth & falcos soon. Ironically. I picked link back up out of boredom and it might be better than it ever has been. I got alot of new tricks you guys might be able to pick up as well.

Was wondering when you would return! Can't wait to see these videos <3

Rizen · Mar 28, 2012

<3 Warm laundry.
_______________________
@Legan: Learning other characters has helped my game all around, and that includes my Link

. You were really on to something there. My tiers are: Link /Wolf, Zelda, G&W/ Ganon, PT. I remember you had a good ZSS and used Snake. Just curious, who are your mains/secondaries?

I can't wait to see your Link

. It's weird but true, often taking a break from something makes you better when you return. (I bet you were surprised to see SWFs more active than AiB).

MegaRobMan · Mar 28, 2012

Rizen said:
I might as well start this here.
What are your favorite and least favorite MUs? This doesn't directly relate to how hard a MU is or what characters you use. People will have different reasons and it's all opinions.

In no order.

Favorite-

Least favorite-

Legan said:
ayooooo, I might get some vids uploaded of me vs some good ganons marth & falcos soon. Ironically. I picked link back up out of boredom and it might be better than it ever has been. I got alot of new tricks you guys might be able to pick up as well.

Blacknight99923 said:
My favorite match up is metkangiht because I beat DEHFs metaknight in a friendly on Halberd with it.
hehehe

I have similar love for Link vs MK because I've won quite a few in this matchup, people who don't know the Link matchup are awesome because they just tornado into bombs and dairs all day long.

Halberd...kinda forget about that stages existance sometimes. That would probably be a good stage for Link due to that ceiling, lol.

Huggles828 · Mar 28, 2012

legan said:
ayooooo, i might get some vids uploaded of me vs some good ganons marth & falcos soon. Ironically. I picked link back up out of boredom and it might be better than it ever has been. I got alot of new tricks you guys might be able to pick up as well.

leeeeegaaaannnnn <3

BryE · Mar 28, 2012

Aaaand more texture crap.

Feel free to share your thoughts. :D

escro · Mar 29, 2012

Whoa looks good man.
Make one for green link
:D

Blacknight99923 · Mar 29, 2012

tight texture

Rizen · Mar 29, 2012

Good job making it distinct yet subtle. I would like to see Link's sword and shield textures in your pics too.

BryE · Mar 29, 2012

escro said:
Whoa looks good man.
Make one for green link
:D

Haha, I might do a green texture later on.

Blacknight99923 said:
tight texture

Thanks man.

Rizen said:
Good job making it distinct yet subtle. I would like to see Link's sword and shield textures in your pics too.

Thanks Rizen.

I personally got tired of the Zero texture hacks that I would see for Link. They were quite annoying so I decided to make my own texture. However it's still a WIP as of now.

Here are some more shots of the texture though. :D

[COLLAPSE="Huuuuge snapshot post!"]
Standard shot of Link.

Hyrule Symbol on Link's torso.

Black and red scabberd.

Jeans Texture.

Close up shot of the Master Sword. WIP as of now.

Comparison between Brawl's regular outfit and my texture hack.

[/COLLAPSE]

I'm also working on a Wolf texture too. I should be done sometime tomorrow I believe.
I thought about making a tutorial about texture hacking too, since most people have problems with figuring out HOW to texture hack properly. (I sure as hell did when I first attempted to)

MegaRobMan · Mar 29, 2012

lol @ # of people who play wolf and link on this thread.

escro · Mar 29, 2012

wow im liking this more and more. like rizen said, its awesome how you managed to do so little to make him look so much nicer.

and that tutorial will be eagerly awaited by the likes of me...

MegaRobMan said:
lol @ # of people who play wolf and link on this thread.

lol

Rizen · Mar 29, 2012

Link has a very unique play-style. IMO Wolf's style is the closest to it because they're both gravity masters with similar spacing. TLink has similar specials but how he uses them is very different from Link and their standard attacks/movements are completely different. That's why I stayed with Wolf for a secondary.

escro · Mar 29, 2012

ohh i see, makes kind of sense.
i chose wolf as a secondary because i liked his air mobility and his aerials, especially his bair.
ironically i felt they were quite different to link's slower speed and laggier aerials, which made wolf more enticing.

MegaRobMan · Mar 29, 2012

I'm pretty sure Ish and Seagull also LT main Link, though Seagull used to MAIN Bowser.

Rizen · Mar 29, 2012

^What's 'LT' mean?
ugh, I've got a cold and have woken feeling c****y in the nigh for 3 days :sick:

(< see, sick face).

Scabe · Mar 29, 2012

BryE said:
Aaaand more texture crap.

Feel free to share your thoughts. :D

I really like it, it's a lot better than the default Red Link texture imo. Nice work BryE

Huggles828 · Mar 29, 2012

Rizen said:
^What's 'LT' mean?

Low tier.

Real men second Ganondorf and Wario

Although I wouldn't be worried if I got stuck randoming Wolf in a tourney.

That's a really sweet texture, BryE. I like it. Although I wouldn't use it because it's similar to my rival school's colors

BryE · Mar 29, 2012

:D Thank you guys for the kind comments.

I'm honestly surprised that this is my first texture hack too. It's quite easy once when you get the hang of it.

Seagull Joe · Mar 29, 2012

MegaRobMan said:
I'm pretty sure Ish and Seagull also LT main Link, though Seagull used to MAIN Bowser.

I never LT mained

and never will. My

is decent I guess, but I main

for LT. I also have a

.

MegaRobMan · Mar 29, 2012

PT isn't even LT.

Seagull Joe · Mar 29, 2012

MegaRobMan said:
PT isn't even LT.

He should be.

Huggles828 · Mar 29, 2012

Seagull Man said:
He should be.

Stupid Reflex having to be all awesome and pretty much singlehandedly bump him up into mid tiers a few lists back

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