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DirtyPete

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^I'm doing okay.

I doubt Ridley will be a playable character but he probably will be a boss or stage hazard.

Bowser gets rescaled in many games and I'm not talking about when the plot makes him grow. (Smallest to largest) He's smallest in Mario Karts and the old NES Mario games, a little bigger in SSB4 then Brawl/Melee, probably about average in Paper Mario/New SMBros, a bit bigger in Mario 64 and 3D World, and biggest in games like Sunshine and Galaxy. His size is very inconsistent.
on the size of bowser, in an interview with (miyamoto, i think), he said that its best to think of the super mario characters as actors, and think of the different mario games as plays ( or something like that) so it makes sense that bowser has a different size in various games.


on SSB4, i got to play it at best buy, and i thought it felt great, though i prefer brawl and project m so i guess my opinion doesnt count.
i won first round as link, then went random and ended up with megaman, and won that round too ( tho i think i only won because i got two kos with the final smash)
i dont really know too many of the advanced techniques, and i didnt really get a chance to try out combos, but i think link is pretty solid this time around. i hope more people choose link as a main, because hes a pretty decent character imo.

and honestly link and toon link are the only characters i can really use , besides peach.
 

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I gots a job now! So I guess that means I can use the work john now?

Either way, no longer unemployed woot!

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^Lol at those images :)

Yeah, I'm on here a lot. I don't go to online sites like facebook or twitter so I'm not online too much.


My stupid TV, which I use for a computer monitor too, broke. For no reason it lost all power and never came back on; right when I was trying to solo the event Ivory Lagiacrus in Monster Hunter :/ So I had to buy a new TV. It's hard to save up money; something always happens.
 

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^ Like I said, take all my rupees and buy yourself a new house, a new TV, a new computer, and possibly buy the rights to Nintendo depending on the rupee-U.S dollar exchange rate.
 

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Lol. Like I said, I am doing okay now.
Rupees seem inconvenient to carry; they're big and pointy. I wish I had a magic satchel/hammerspace like Link has. That would be sweet to pull items out of nowhere.
 

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Wait... so the exchange rate is 60 rupees per dollar? So you mean when I'm following a treasure map in Wind Waker, sailing all day getting sunburnt and dehydrated on that tiny boat (who is also a jerk), waiting until nightfall to see the location of the chest, then spending all that time on the backbreaking labor of dropping a crane to the ocean floor then pulling a gigantic treasure chest back up, it's for just a little over three bucks (assuming a 200-rupee chest)? It's official guys. Hyrule is a third world country.
 

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Heya Rizen I actually want advice from a Brawler so I can incorporate some stuff into my P:M play. How does the Brawl Link vs ZSS matchup work?
 
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Rizen

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Heya Rizen I actually want advice from a Brawler so I can incorporate some stuff into my P:M play. How does the Brawl Link vs ZSS matchup work?
LordXavior could give you a better explanation, he played Salem, but here's mine:
Link has a good anti powersuit piece game with his normal psudo-camping style of SH projectiles and platform camping/bombing. Throwing out bombs, Boomerang and arrows walls off the pieces and forces ZSS out from under them. Link is also very good with the pieces with Zair and Fsmashing while holding one, the same way he bomb smashes. As long as Link plays passively he won't get schooled at the beginning of a game by pieces.

Link also has a few 'advantages' (and by that I mean he gets exploited less than other characters) like escaping ZSS' Dsmash without taking a ton of damage. Link's fast fallspeed and good use of bombs helps him avoid air juggles. SH Zair is a great approach/way to sort of shut down ZSS without being in her whip or paralizer range. Bombs can be thrown through paralizer blasts and Link can cancel them easily with other attacks. Link 'out-camps', not that he can truly camp but he can make ZSS chase him for damage. Link has a longer reach but he's significantly slower; any position except directly above ZSS Link can win an attack reach contest (except for ZSS's whip but that's slower than Link is, spotdodge slide and punish or shield dash>grab). Also beware deceptively large hitbubbles ZSS has with attacks like her down B kick; Link can still beat it with Zair but he needs to space farther than you might think. ZSS doesn't have any significant CGs or locks on Link and he has decent combo evasion stats mentioned above.

ZSS is much faster to attack and more mobile so spacing can be hard. Link needs to play a fast passive camping game mixed with sword spacing. The big thing is to not be baited or trapped in a bad space like against an edge, wall or without a 2nd jump. Link will take a lot of damage but he can take a lot of damage and be okay for a long time. Link can get low % KOs with tactics like platform camp>throw bomb down>chain to a Dair, get a good read with Dair or smash, and bomb, arrow or jab locks. Link also has a quick KO Dsmash (frame 6) and Utilt (frame 7). Punishing a missed whip or grab is an easy Dair or Smash. Link can grapple the ledge and hang to stop ZSS' recovery from very far but she probably will recover in most cases. Link can make it hard on her be spamming projectiles and dropping bombs as she recovers.

ZSS will try to pressure Link, make him panic, get him offstage and gimp or intercept. When she does force Link offstage, which can be avoided for a while if he's smart:
High recoveries> FF airdodge>tether can be good but watch that she doesn't whip Link from afar. Whip will beat BRang and arrows so don't spam if she's on the spam horizontal plane. Like all MUs, pull a bomb as Link is launched after momentum canceling.

Link has to accept he will take damage and keep his cool. Good DI and SDI is very useful. SDI jabs, paralizer and juggle starter hits. ZSS has a good gimping game (but who doesn't on Link?) but she doesn't have a great way to get him offstage like CGing characters do. Like most if not all Link's MUs, if Link knows what he's doing it's much better but if he doesn't he will get destroyed. I learned the MU from Bio and he destroyed me the early games. I also have beaten a ZSS in a live tournament and a PRed player in my state uses her. ZSS has more of an advantage on wifi because Link gets nerfed.

So it's an endurance match. ZSS is faster but Link can throw projectiles and has a longer reach. Link will take more damage but can KO earlier. What sucks about this is ZSS can time out Link and run with the lead. Even so Link can answer ZSS fairly well. Xavior thinks the MU is -1 Link. I can see it as a -1 or light -2.

Stages: Brinstar but it's gone (thank you MK). PS1 is ideal; just be careful that ZSS' whip doesn't go through the terrain and hit Link. If that's banned go for Delfino. Link needs room and platforms to evade ZSS without fear of being backed against a ledge.
For starters strike YI and FD. YI sucks for camping and stops projectile spam and FD is a big space with no platforms which gives ZSS a big advantage with higher jumps, faster movement and no obstacles to obstruct her spacing. Hopefully BF will be chosen as SV doesn't help Link space much. Halberd isn't bad but it aids ZSS' spacing and Delfino or PS1 helps Link more. Frigate isn't that bad if you stay away from the ledge-free right side in phase one. I think banning FD would be more beneficial than banning Frigate. Ban Rainbow Cruse if it's legal. Link doesn't have any horrible stages vs ZSS but he is at a disadvantage on several.

I don't have any live replays unfortunately. This is the best example I have and it's wifi so take it with a grain of salt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFG8jjQadCk&index=28&list=PLr1TA6mS1hkv4aAyML6Se--hAXN4qTFZw
 
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I couldn't light any fireworks but I did go see them. They were pretty.
I wonder when, specifically, SSB4 will be launched. I'm guessing end of November or early December.
 

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I couldn't light any fireworks but I did go see them. They were pretty.
I wonder when, specifically, SSB4 will be launched. I'm guessing end of November or early December.
Have you seen the news someone was trying to light fireworks and then the fireworks exploded right on their hands and both of his hands came out. Glad to hear your okay!
Another 4th of July gone by and me without explosives. *sigh*
Im glad your okay! Those fireworks tho.
 

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^That's why it's a bad idea to hold fireworks when you light them :facepalm:
I went and saw a city firework show. Fireworks, when used properly, are not dangerous.
Yup 100% true. I went all the way to San Francisco to see fireworks and it was awesome!

Anyway does anyone play
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If you do I should add you and we should play. My main in LoL is
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#Master Yi
 

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I do! I do! Look me up on LoL. I'm outcastshadow (nickname bomber7) on NA. I don't particularly have a main. I just have preferred characters: Katarina, TF, Nautilus (use him a lot). I have a pocket Pantheon and a back pocket ziggs, and I'm curretly learning wukong in the jongle.
 
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I do! I do! Look me up on LoL. I'm outcastshadow (nickname bomber7) on NA. I don't particularly have a main. I just have preferred characters: Katarina, TF, Nautilus (use him a lot). I have a pocket Pantheon and a back pocket ziggs, and I'm curretly learning wukong in the jongle.
Awesome sauce bro! We should 5v5 Summoner rift! Together! I have a awesome Master Yi! Can you play tomorrow? And what level r u on? Im on level 9. And anyone else can join us!
 

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I don't play LoL :ohwell:.
Man this dumb hot weather is killing me. It's hard to make myself exercise or go outside :/ I'll be glad when it cools off.

Edit, I forgot to mention I saw a cute baby bunny by the side of the road. But bunnies are profoundly stupid; my mom was driving and we drove up next to it but it just sat there. It could have hopped once to get to safety in the foliage but it didn't. It sat and stared at us. Then on the way back it was still in the same place. It was alive because it turned and tried to shrink low to the ground. It was scared but too stupid to jump away. Lol.
I got some pictures. Not here; they'll need to be sorted.
 
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DirtyPete

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guys, ive been a link main for a while, but i started practicing against some lv nine computers, and i was losing as link as often as i was winning ( against random cpus; in project m), and now im losing confidence in my link/ toon link game. what bothers me more is that i was doing better against the cpus as some new characters i picked up recently, ness and samus, than i was doing as link

should i just ignore the results of the vs computer matches and just try practicing with some more humans?


seriously i swear the project m A.I has like wave dashing and dash dancing progammed in. it was too scary D;
 

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Awesome sauce bro! We should 5v5 Summoner rift! Together! I have a awesome Master Yi! Can you play tomorrow? And what level r u on? Im on level 9. And anyone else can join us!
Yeah, I usually play at night with another friend or two of mine. I'm available now if you want to play.
 

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Dear Brawl Links,

As of today I am adopting Bomb Smashing (or whatever it is you call it where you Fsmash holding a bomb) and DACUS'ing into my P:M gameplay. I realize the mindgame potential behind these two techniques and it's only now I realize how effective they are in a separate game.

Thank you for indirectly helping improve my tech skill.

Love, a happy Smash player.
 

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^I have 'R' set to attack to help bomb smashing. IIRC the term was 'bomb Fsmashing' aka Fsmash with a bomb but everyone shortens it to bomb smashing. It can be done with any throwing item.
guys, ive been a link main for a while, but i started practicing against some lv nine computers, and i was losing as link as often as i was winning ( against random cpus; in project m), and now im losing confidence in my link/ toon link game. what bothers me more is that i was doing better against the cpus as some new characters i picked up recently, ness and samus, than i was doing as link

should i just ignore the results of the vs computer matches and just try practicing with some more humans?


seriously i swear the project m A.I has like wave dashing and dash dancing progammed in. it was too scary D;
I guess play what character comes natural to you.
Try to learn from your mistakes against computers and don't give them the openings.


Edit, I finally watched the end of the Tenchi Ryo Okie anime. The end is terrible! So much Deus Ex Machina and throwing tons of unlikable new characters in! :mad:
 
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Heero Yuy

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Tenchi Muyo rocks! Sadly, I have to agree with you that Ryo Ohki had an awful ending. They should've kept with the original atmosphere and not have gone all haywire with the story.
 

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^Excluding the last 4 or 5 episodes, the show was good. That's what makes the extreme drop in quality such a bad thing. It became a bad soap opera out of nowhere.


I'll try to post some photos soon. I've sorted through a lot but then I go for a hike and take more, lol.
 

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I'm not a huge anime guy but I remember Tenchi being pretty good when it came on Toonami like 15 years ago. Don't remember a whole lot about it though. You guys know if it's on Netflix or anything where I can watch it again for free? (That or Outlaw Star; that's one of like 2 animes, along with Cowboy Bebop, that I remember being awesome).
 
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