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[Anonano]

I'd love to do some anytime.

Just got back from my first tourney in months--I beat a good Pikachu player and lost to an ICs player/X the sonic player/a not-very-good Diddy player (I still don't know how he was so tough, ha ha). I'll get the results linked soon.

The Pikachu player, Tane, chaingrabbed and wrecked me in doubles so in singles just to be safe I pulled out my Pokemon Trainer, which did okay until my Charizard (which he destroyed). So I fell back on Link and what do you know, I scrape the second match and then decisively won the third.

I tried to practice DAC/bombsliding in advance of the tournament, but discovered that I can't anymore, so I just practiced JC bombthrows and dashing/pivot spin attacks and that got me through most of the matches, lol

There'll be another tourney on the 9th, so I'm planning on putting some more practice in to that one. So hopefully I'll be able to post good results then :D

 

[Bomber7]

Nnnnneeeeedddddsss more Persona 4. I'm in love with Yosuke. All the extreme homo.

 

[Rizen]

^I've never actually played the Persona series.

My advice with Link, especially in tourneys, is don't try fancy stuff. Link is so hard to play that it's best to focus on spacing and making attacks work together. The only ATs that should be used regularly are locks, ledge hops/stalls, invincibomb, Bomb with Zair and Fsmash, quickdraws (not including basic pivot grabs etc as ATs). It's extremely hard to pull fancy bomb slides off under pressure and maintain proper spacing. Lol I've lost due to over-complicating an already extremely complex character .

Edit, ugh I'll probably miss a tourney due to lack of sleep again

 

[Bomber7]

I find Link is really all about the spacing. However it's much more than that in the sense, that he has the greatest need to space and do it perfectly, but when done, he can actually be quite effective. Mix-ups are always a key weapon for someone like Link. I've never been one to say stay away from being fancy with Link because he is a fancy character at heart, but you also don't want to abuse his gift or else you will just get punished. You just have to play REALLY SMART with Link. We've seen the results of doing just this. A crowd shocker.

 

[Rizen]

I just started playing again and I am Ruuuuuuuusssty :/ All my commands have the wrong timing/buffering. So I need to play more and shake it off
I'll wifi if anyone wants?

 

[HarryTheChin]

I just started playing again and I am Ruuuuuuuusssty :/ All my commands have the wrong timing/buffering. So I need to play more and shake it off
I'll wifi if anyone wants?

Plaey? :3

 

[Rizen]

Plaey? :3

Okay. I'll add you and host.

 

[Bomber7]

You know what we do to rust? We pour coke on it. Want me to go buy a 2 liter?

 

[HarryTheChin]

Ggs Rizen! I really enjoyed those matches. And sorry I was gone for that one match or two. Had to help gramps into the house.

 

[Rizen]

Ggs Rizen! I really enjoyed those matches. And sorry I was gone for that one match or two. Had to help gramps into the house.

GGs! Lol my timing at first was so off. One of those days where I'm 20 frames off and get punished for mistimed punishes. I pulled it together more for the later games.

PS DAC is very unsafe for approaches; I just couldn't time punishes well.

Edit, I'm done trying to post in the MU/Tier list threads under competitive smash. You literally can't post anything about Link without troll who have never played vs Link- no exaggeration- ignoring all evidence and just trolling. It's pathetic.

 

[Anonano]

I'm going to look through your recent posts so I can find this troll and start laughing at him

 

[Rizen]

I'm going to look through your recent posts so I can find this troll and start laughing at him

It's probably best just to let it go; the MU chart and tier lists themselves look pretty good. In the MU debates LordXavier had played Salem and suggested the Link/ZSS MU was -1 Link. Then I posted one wifi example and haters can't see past that. There's a lot of people who think Link can't do anything in any MU and loses -3/-4 to everyone and no amount of evidence can change that.

 

[Bomber7]

It's probably best just to let it go;

F*CK NO. If it's good enough for them to troll and be stupid, it's good enough for you to shove it right back in their face.

Bomber7 for nicer America 2014.

 

[Anonano]

The lack of experience is what kills the people who are posting in that thread, lol
Z'zgash
You just have had the misfortune of running across the group of people who don't have the significant amount of exp. they need to comment but feel they do have enough to comment authoritatively. It's a free website and a gaming scene without any real overhead other than the BBR to guide behavior and keep discussion going on higher-quality lines.

 

[Bomber7]

Even still, I don't trust the BBR. You can trust them as far as you can throw them, and I think they are all a bunch of fatties.

 

[Rizen]

It would be nice to have more low tier mains on the BRB and as mods. They tend to have more realistic attitudes.

 

[Bomber7]

Only because there's really no room to feel elitist when you play a crappy character and are used to losing all the time. I see what you mean though.

 

[Rizen]

High tiers often have a black and white attitude about MUs, like 'it can be won as even or better or the MU's hopeless, no need to think more about it'. Then when low characters do well on occasion it blows their minds. A lot of high tiers don't even like playing -1 MUs. Low tier players know -2 and even -3 MUs can be won on rare occasion and look at the options.

 

[Bomber7]

All the more reason why I've drifted away from Brawl. Since I've picked up P:M and P4, I've come to appreciate freestyle fighting and the actual mental power it takes to play those games, but also the balance. I will admit this, though. Because of Brawl, I've gain the ability to read, which has helped me greatly in P:M and P4. Outside of that, I no longer have much love for Brawl.

 

[Heero Yuy]

Jigglypuff is clearly the worst character in Brawl. That's a character to troll.

 

[Rizen]

Jigglypuff is clearly the worst character in Brawl. That's a character to troll.

The only thing I'll say for Jiggz is she's great at just running away, which sadly is part of competitive smash.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEDzLiocwvc
She might be better than Ganon with that factor.

 

[Bomber7]

Jiggly time-outs. So troll. Make me so mad.

 

[Anonano]

I have a friend who plays a pretty mean aggro shield-pressure Jiggly. He almost took a game off a top Utah player just because he was not mentally prepared for such aggressive play.

 

[Rizen]

Jiggz can be very hard to space if you are unprepared. My G&W lost to Jiggz before I learned how to deal with her.
The Link vs Jigglypuff MU, like many of Link's MUs, starts feeling like +2 Jiggz favor then gets better to +1 and even after a few games.

Sonic Lost World is out First impressions:

Spoiler

For a first impression of Sonic Lost World, exclusively for the Wii U, I am impressed. I can say the game lives up to the trailers:
http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Sonic_Lost_World
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-sIkDWfccU

The graphics detail is better than what you've seen on youtube; if Sonic stops and smells the roses you'll notice detailed surfaces with more than simple texture maps.

There are plenty of little cutscenes to further the story in a similar style to Sonic Colors but a bit less buffoonish. For those of you who played Sonic Unleashed and remember most cutscenes were merely characters sitting in place talking, you'll be glade to know there's a lot more movement and action in Lost World's. I can tell the developers learned a lesson from past mistakes and have presented a well paced, entertaining but not irritating way of integrating cutscenes and dialog into the game. You'll be happy to know Tails and Knuckles show up in early videos. Amy's there too.
The voice acting works. It's cheesy of course but acted well.
The story's standard for a Sonic game: predictable and formulaic but it works for the gameplay. Actually it's a bit sub-par but no one plays for the stories anyway. I haven't seen more than the first few levels' worth.

The game play is Mario Galaxy meets game gear era Sonic games and it works very well. The controls take time to adjust to and are more complex. Fortunately they are well thought out and easy to use while keeping the flow of high speed action. Sometimes the levels will transition into 2D old school platforming that keeps the same controls. The camera works too. Lost World is level by level not unlike Super Mario Galaxy 2. Don't expect adventure maps like Sonic Adventure 1.

This game will make you adjust and much of the early gameplay is trial and error. It is difficult to tell exactly where Sonic can and can't go and what certain things are. This isn't so much a flaw as a learning curve and familiarizing yourself with the environments. That said, it would have been nice to have infinite retrys. All my deaths so far were from simply doing something I shouldn't have. The fast pace paired with unnatural and unmarked gravity is hard to predict. Once I died by walking on the ceiling and jumping up into what was earlier a bottomless pit. Some secrets are hidden where a death trap could have been to make this worse. Similarly many enemies and obstacles are unclear until you've played the level. An example of this is some sheep turn red unexpectedly and try to ram Sonic off the path.
Despite these learning curve problems it's better than most previous Sonic games in being forgiving and getting on with the action. Including a double jump helped.

So far Lost World is fun and runs smoothly. I recommend it to Sonic fans.

 

[Death Arcana]

I have a friend who plays a pretty mean aggro shield-pressure Jiggly. He almost took a game off a top Utah player just because he was not mentally prepared for such aggressive play.

if ur talking about Ben i can agree for the most part
and who exactly was the top player i might ask
i can't see myself losing to his puff as anybody
i did work on it at banzai

 

[Anonano]

You don't have anything to lose, you've already lost to my Link <3

It was Ben facing Kenny. I didn't see the match personally, but both of 'em told me about it afterwards

Oh, that reminds me-- a few weeks ago you were talking about how you think your Link is better than mine. Care to put some money on that? I'll MM you $5 b03 for that. Or, if you don't like those odds, maybe my TL v. your Link? Up to you :3

 

[Bomber7]

You don't have anything to lose, you've already lost to my Link <3

It was Ben facing Kenny. I didn't see the match personally, but both of 'em told me about it afterwards

Oh, that reminds me-- a few weeks ago you were talking about how you think your Link is better than mine. Care to put some money on that? I'll MM you $5 b03 for that. Or, if you don't like those odds, maybe my TL v. your Link? Up to you :3

Do it or you're both frauds. I'll advertise it as $1000 MMs and not tell anyone it's really for $5. This will be SO hype!

 

[Anonano]

Two randoms from Utah, duking it out

So much hype, ha ha

 

[Bomber7]

You'd be amazed how powerful the phrase "Money talks" is. You'd turn some heads if you advertised your matches as $1000 MMs, even though no one knows who you are. Promote the hell out of it, livestream it and let the world watch you guys go at it.

 

[Rizen]

Anyone want to wifi today? I need to get my game back on.

 

[Anonano]

I'd love to :D

 

[Rizen]

I'd love to :D

Okay, host and I'll join.

 

[Anonano]

Sorry I didn't respond, got a little busy. I'll try and get on now though and I'll wait around unless it gets past 5

 

[Rizen]

Sorry I didn't respond, got a little busy. I'll try and get on now though and I'll wait around unless it gets past 5

Okay, I'll host.

 

[Anonano]

I think I just proved that DACUS is a broken approach. The BBR must ban it

 

[Rizen]

Lol Bowser's the one character who suffers as much as Link in heavy lag.

GGs, Link has so much trouble in heavy lag lol. My weird Usmashes were meant to be Fsmashes but my controller memory is off :/. Fun games

 

[Anonano]

Ah, don't be hard on yourself. Every single dsmash and fsmash in that last game was supposed to be a DACUS, and I accidentally kept jumping and doing awesome things when I was trying to perform JC spin attacks.

EDIT: Also, I have no clue how my awful Pikachu managed to eke out a win v. your Link. The breadth of my tech skill was literally waiting to thunderjolt you when you got to the ledge. I saved that match, by the way.

 

[Anonano]

You know what? You want to see that pro Pikachu.

There's no ifs, buts, or ands about it. Watch this lovely hunk of stand-in-place awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrQvIxiUkN0

 

[Rizen]

^That game was really laggy :S Link can't do much of anything. I wish our connection was better

 

[Anonano]

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I just wish I could connect to you via Wii U, ha ha. Man, I was so disappointed when we couldn't play MH3U together, and I worry that unless you get a new connection we won't be able to play Smash 4 with each other. Q.Q

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