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[#HBC | Nabe]

Lynch Zen, use Nabe's shot to kill Raz, Lynch Nabe and gg

Why not Lynch Raz / Shoot Zen? Since Raz probably killed Gheb last Night.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Nabe doesn't have to be indy. For all we know and through what we've seen so far, Taunt could easily be scum's Night Kill. Just putting this out there since it's on my mind.

IMO I am the scumkill by proxy, I don't think scum faction has a kill. I said as much and that I should be lynched back when I claimed. Too late now obviously since endgame is here or near.

 

[Kantrip]

Game progress:

D1
Tekcat, Scizor/Rotom-W, Town Bicycle was lynched!

N1
No one died!

D2
Red Ruy, Minun, Town Loving Magnet was lynched!
Gorf, Plusle, Town Loving Cheerleader committed suicide!

N2
Nah., Lucario, Town Hero was killed!

D3
T-Block, Darkrai, Saboteur Nightmare was lynched!

N3
Dark Horse, Arcanine, Town Bloodhound was killed!

D4
Ranmaru, Gliscor, Town Death Defier was lynched!

N4
Gheb, Smeargle, Town Artist was killed!

Okay, so.

N1 Nabe Taunted Ryker. Ryker tried to kill Nabe, but Nabe is immune to his own Taunt.
No one died from any source this Night. The chance of scum targeting Ran is negligible. JTB was on me and I also doubt scum tried to kill me considering they chose to blind me instead, robbing me of my result. This means there is no scum kill accounted for N1.

N2 Nabe Taunted Zen and Zen shot Ryker. No one else died. Still no scum kill accounted for. Also Ryker was allegedly town vig.

N3 Nabe Taunted me after being informed that was a stupid choice. The alternative was taunting Xonar I believe, who was likely to shoot Raziek. I basically got roleblocked and then stupidly chose to kill Dark Horse.

By the time N4 rolled around, the plan was basically to shoot Raziek. We got it all set up so that Gheb would get the shot and all would be well. Well, what do you know, Gheb gets conveniently killed by a scum NK that before last Night had not existed. Nabe maintains that he gave the gun to Gheb, but do you know what actually happened? He gave the gun to his scummate (Raziek, probably) to shoot Gheb with.

I'm surprised we let Nabe live so long when he has been going against pre-determined actions and is the only claimed kill, on top of the fact that town already had a vig.

 

[Kantrip]

Ninja'd pretty hard, but yeah I think lynching Raziek and shooting Zen could work.

I want Raziek to claim his actions first though ffs

 

[Kantrip]

Why not Lynch Raz / Shoot Zen? Since Raz probably killed Gheb last Night.

I'm trying to figure out which of Zen/Raz killed Gheb last Night. What makes you say it was probably Raz?

 

[Kantrip]

When did you first claim again, Nabe?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

No idea, it was so long ago. Probably D2 after Ryker said "what the **** just happened".

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

N3 Nabe Taunted me after being informed that was a stupid choice. The alternative was taunting Xonar I believe, who was likely to shoot Raziek. I basically got roleblocked and then stupidly chose to kill Dark Horse.

No, I sent in a PM on Zen, then on you, then was reliably informed that was a bad idea, then sent it on Gheb and got modblocked.

I'm trying to figure out which of Zen/Raz killed Gheb last Night. What makes you say it was probably Raz?

The options are
a) Scum shot Gheb with a night kill they haven't demonstrated yet and roleblocked him too.
b) Scum redirected Gheb to himself, I guess?
c) Gheb shot Raz and got his *** handed to him.

It's not (a). Most likely (c), since we haven't seen a redirect so far (and if there is one it probably led JTB to you last Night to make him Ice, because the odds of two Ice pokes in this game is not good (Are there even competitive Icepokes?) meaning it wasn't on Gheb).

 

[Kantrip]

d) Gheb was killed by Nabe's ability which Nabe lied about giving to him

 

[Kantrip]

Aka a possibility for a Zen/Nabe scumteam or Zenscum with Nabetraitor which means Raziek isn't a surefire Lynch.

It's down to Raz/Zen I just wish Raz would hurry up with his actions.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

d) Gheb was killed by Nabe's ability which Nabe lied about giving to him

Huh? Who did I give it to then, lol?

 

[Raziek]

What actions? I don't have an active.

I'm not informed whether or not I'm targeted by someone, nor do I have an answer for why you were blinded.

 

[Mr. Lynch]

Haha Nabe you stupid ho. Of course Laundry gave it to him intentionally. No one said anything about it being random. Furthermore why would there need to be more than one ghost type for the role to work? I had been under the assumption that there was probably only one other ghost type before T-block flipped. Which is why I thought my role wouldn't be of any use had we lynched you. You're trying to make a connection between me and Raz but it's not there. It's bad and gross. You're forgetting that I was on the forefront of the t-block lynch and had attempted to get him lynched times before the day he got lynch. I was the only one making cases on him before and found is play to be scummy since day 1. You're choosing to ignore my play that has been very townie all game which even Xonar admits.

Kantrip you're a stupid ho too if you think I would really lynch you for not understanding my point about the night actions.

 

[Mr. Lynch]

I'm Chandelure, Town Scarf Sweeper.

I have Shadow Tag (passive), which prevents anyone who targets me from taking action the following night.

Not enough time right now.

I targeted Raziek N1 and got blinded, stopping me from getting a result. I was not roleblocked by his claimed passive the next Night. Just saying.

Mr. Lynch, what was your passive again...? And your targets each Night? Sorry if you just gave this but my phone is a pain.

Nah it's not a crime to forget my actions, but to assume that I'm "slipping up" when I say things you don't recall correctly is. If you were implying I could be scum with that "slipping up" comment, then that's absolutely disgusting that you would jump to that rather than asking clarification. Extremely opportunistic. I can't see how else "slipping up" could be taken in this scenario.

Watched Raziek N1. I got confirmation that I targeted him, but I was blinded and received no result.
Mimic'd T-block N2. He used Bad Dreams.
Got Taunted N3.... I used Blizzard on Dark Horse.
Waiting on some things for my N4 result.

Ok no I see the confusion. I was assuming that only the action you used would be blocked the next night. I'm good with this then.

Also It's Raz and Nabe. Possibly Xonar. Kantrip you really gotta stop pissiing me off this game and being ******** as hell.

 

[Mr. Lynch]

Vote: Raz

 

[Mr. Lynch]

You haven't presented any evidence.

Do you honestly think there is even a ghost of a chance of scum targeting Joey?

Ryker trust me you will be ok. I liked that crumb btw.

And then the doc is someone malleable and listens to you which is NOT what I want.

Kantrip, watch yourself.



And I thought you might like it, Zen.

Reason why I chose Ryker night 1.

 

[Mr. Lynch]

Man if we lynch Nabe, my ability is useless. Doesn't really matter though. Go head and take the lead, Ryker.

Day 2 after Nabe had claimed. Don't be so pig headed. Man this game really makes me angry for some reason. Just the fact that scum and dumb ***** are trying to say that the claim isn't real and lynch me off that.

 

[JTB]

vote raziek

Gonna be pissed if kantrip was scum watcher

 

[Kantrip]

Xonar's last used ability is Magic Guard.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Check that again. That should be Magic Coat.

Sorry, I've been in the thread every so often but I'm watching EVO.

 

[Kantrip]

Huh? Who did I give it to then, lol?

In this scenario, your scumbud.

 

[Kantrip]

Check that again. That should be Magic Coat.

Sorry, I've been in the thread every so often but I'm watching EVO.

It still says magic guard. :/ I'll ask the mod.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Magic Guard is a passive ability :v You can't even Mimic that.

 

[Kantrip]

Bad Dreams is normally a passive as well but then T-block.

Still I'm checking with the mod

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

That's true I guess. Go ahead and check it with the mod.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

In this scenario, your scumbud.

But why wouldn't I have given it to my scumbuds every Night? Why would I foist control of the scum nightkill off onto Ryker N1?

Whatever. As long as Raz is lynched and Zen is shot I don't really care.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Haha Nabe you stupid ho. Of course Laundry gave it to him intentionally. No one said anything about it being random.

You're saying Laundry gave Zen Gengar, Town Ghost Commander intentionally, because he fully expected from the beginning of the game that (of all people) Soup would replace into (of all slots) Zen's slot?

Congrats, you've just crossed over into The Bull**** Zone.

Furthermore why would there need to be more than one ghost type for the role to work?

If there is exactly one ghost in this game for you to target out of 13 roles, that is the definition of a useless role. And you think I'm scum, so you're saying your role's sole purpose is to mason with scum. You couldn't possibly believe that.

You're trying to make a connection between me and Raz but it's not there. It's bad and gross.

Of course there's no other connection between you and Raz, because he's been absentee all game. But he's claiming Ghost (and lying) for your sake, that's clear as day.

You're forgetting that I was on the forefront of the t-block lynch and had attempted to get him lynched times before the day he got lynch. I was the only one making cases on him before and found is play to be scummy since day 1.

We call this manuever "bussing", i.e. to throw one's partner under a bus, so to speak. You may have heard of it.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

You're saying Laundry gave Zen Gengar, Town Ghost Commander intentionally, because he fully expected from the beginning of the game that (of all people) Soup would replace into (of all slots) Zen's slot?

Congrats, you've just crossed over into The Bull**** Zone.

I was the original slot, Zen replaced in for me.

 

[Ramen King]

lol that^

stupid.

 

[Mr. Lynch]

I was the original slot, Zen replaced in for me.

lol that^

stupid.

These are our posts.

Vote: Nabe
Vote: Raziek

 

[Kantrip]

But why wouldn't I have given it to my scumbuds every Night? Why would I foist control of the scum nightkill off onto Ryker N1?

Whatever. As long as Raz is lynched and Zen is shot I don't really care.

Making your role believable, townie points, believing the odds of one of your partners getting hit is slim, essentially roleblocking your target.

 

[Kantrip]

JTB, who were your targets again?

N1 me and then what? I forget.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Nabe, I want both JTB and Kantrip to be able to act. Give me that gun.

Gonna catch up now. We should be able to figure this out tomorrow.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Or even today. I'm pretty sure it's Zen that's the last scummer. If I find out it's not, then a Nabe shot isn't gonna work anyway.

JTB, copy me again. You shouldn't really care about me having BP because if I'm scum, it doesn't matter. This game should be over either way. Let me run situations before reading.

 

[Kantrip]

Something about JTB's actions isn't making sense.

Xonar, do you remember them?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Xonar
Zen
Nabe
JTB
Kantrip

Let's assume Raziek flips scum, which brings us in a 1sv3t situation. aka, LyLo.
That basically means that I can shoot who I want tonight, because the difference between 1v2 and 1v3 isn't much (worst case), it's both 1 lynch to take the victory home. With JTB and Kantrip running around, having an extra shot is even pretty good.

Me having the gun has one big advantage, and that's a GUARANTEED SHOT.
Listen.
As soon as Raziek (who we still assume is scum) was threatened to get shot, the shooter got killed. So, to prevent the shooter to get killed, we need to protect him.
Here's where JTB comes in.
JTB, changing to me again should give me BP, right?
So, give me the gun. Then change to my typing to make me BP and check if your results last night were true.

This is what's gonna happen then.
Nabe > Give gun to Xonar
Kantrip > Watch Nabe
Zen > Mason Nabe
JTB > Change to Xonar
Xonar > Shoot

Now, I know you can only use 1 move per night. Which means that if Zen is scum, he can't kill this way. This also means that JTB can't nightkill if scum. Kantrip can't nightkill if scum. Nabe is getting watched. The only kill will be mine.
If my kill is wrong or if my typing comes out wrong again, then I'm dead.

This will grant us:
A guaranteed kill
A check on my typing
A check on Zen's role
A check on Nabe's night action

Ugh. This is stream of thought. Optimize it if possible.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Something about JTB's actions isn't making sense.

Xonar, do you remember them?

Uh.

Kantrip?
Then me.
Then someone else.
Then me again?

 

[Kantrip]

****ing hell, I hate losing posts all the time on this laptop :v

anyways, I'm fullclaiming now

Porygon2, Town Barrier Doctor

To reiterate, my passive is Trance which changes my type into whatever the type of the last Pokemon I targeted is.

N1 I targeted Kantrip because he was watcher and I also saw a chance to test his pressure claim. I got changed into a flying-type.

N2 I targeted Xonar and I don't really remember why I chose him, but I did not have my type changed, which is why I pushed him about his role.

N3 I targeted Kantrip again and my type was changed to [REDACTED]

Why am I claiming now? Because if Zen is really town, scum is most likely going to shoot between the three he mentioned above to eliminate his support during endgame and I plan to protect one of the three toNight. Now scum has to choose to kill a weaker player who is the doctor, or one of the power players in the game and hope to not hit my protect.

I don't care about Ran right now because I'm more worried about Nabe especially with Ryker dying after voicing all his concerns about him. Raz should still die first.

Xonar is definitely scum, Raziek most likely scum.

Targeted Xonar last night and got changed to an Ice-type. No more bull**** about another fake claim.

Waited on Raziek claiming because I was worried about the possibility of a redirector, but since he didn't claim an Ice-type, then that suspicion goes out the window. And I know I wasn't redirected to Kantrip since if I target the same person two nights in a row, my target gets a one-time BP at the cost of me losing all my BP.

Vote: Xonar

lets just end this game

EBWOP: my target gets a one-time BP at the cost of me losing all my PP*

Oh okay, this makes sense. For some reason I missed the "two nights in a row" part.

So N1 JTB goes from Normal to Flying due to targeting me.
N2 he remains Flying after targeting Xonar.
N3 he remains Flying once again after targeting me a second time.
N4 he goes back to Xonar and becomes Ice.

 

[Kantrip]

Xonar, your line of thought is flawed.

If you shoot and someone disobeys your command to kill because they are scum, and both kills hit town, then it's a scum win. The only way to be safe is to shoot Nabe with his shot so as to waste it and ensure numbers stay with a town majority.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Nope. 1 scum vs 4 town if Raziek flips town. Two kills makes 1v2.