Laundry's All-Stars Pokemon Mafia -- Pokeballs to the Pokewalls!

[ranmaru]

No, I don't have to send it in.

Substitute. I already have a substitute set up.

 

[ranmaru]

Why didn't you ask Nabe this?

 

[Kantrip]

Because Nabe claimed Taunt as a move that he can use iirc.

Substitute is a move. Do you not have an ability?

 

[ranmaru]

Nope. I have no active abilities. Just a passive. Just checked

 

[Kantrip]

No.... I mean like, a passive ability that's actually a Pokemon ability rather than a move.

Poison Heal, for example.

 

[Ramen King]

That's exactly why you want to wagon him later today. We have time to put pressure on T-Block and evaluate reactions.

It's not pressure if you don't intent on lynching him though. "yo t-booi we are voting you just for some pressure but we aint gonna lynch you" doesn't do much.

Ran you voting Ryker yet?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

@ Xonar:

Because it was a ****ty gambit that you didn't even properly used. A gambit is fine, if it has town motivation behind it.

Prove it was a gambit.

You have no substance for this.

Pulling facts out your ***. Nice.

First off, I don't see the relation between the two. Second, I kinda did.

I did nothing, but no indication of scum intent which you never looked for, if you did, you would have questioned me or seen where my "alleged" gambit went.

Your *** must be full of these facts!

Your post quoting it had me a lynch option, then you tried to get people to avoid my posts and voted me when I gave Ryker my vote.

Your lying.

:v I havent full claimed yet. But nice speculation!

No it's how the events played out, you claimed a very convenient role when presented with death.

I'm not backing down.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

For the record, you'll never get a worry seed off on anyone by me.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Vote: T-Block

I dig the pressure

 

[T-block]

been caught up in another game, but i'm here now

do me a favour and repeat your question for me if you had one. otherwise i'll try to get them all.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Who are your scummates?

More so right now where do you want to go lynch wise?

 

[T-block]

i'll need to read more carefully. i don't remember being satisfied with ran's explanation. i wanna look at kantrip more closely too.

not lynching ryker. he's town.

fine with zen.

gotta digest this lovers/mason thing. might throw rr/gorf into lynch pool.

we should keep nabe around.

i'd settle for raz/dh/jtb lynch atm.

 

[T-block]

more detail inc, so keep your pants on

meanwhile, RR, can you recap what lightningrod does? is it passive or active?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Attract lets me target a player and anything they do targets me. Active.

 

[ranmaru]

Tblock why don't you go into why you weren't satisfied with my explanation.

Also dude, pick up the slack this game, Why are you fine with Zen? Why is Ryker just town (rather, why are you just slapping the TOWN label on him?)

You might throw RR/Gorf in the lynch pool but not Xonar/Zen? Why them over those two?

 

[ranmaru]

Like seriously. Why haven't you commented on your own 'pressure' wagon? What is your opinion on it?

 

[ranmaru]

It's not pressure if you don't intent on lynching him though. "yo t-booi we are voting you just for some pressure but we aint gonna lynch you" doesn't do much.

Ran you voting Ryker yet?

I could be. You want to lynch him with me?

 

[T-block]

more detail inc, so keep your pants on

goddammit ran

 

[ranmaru]

What, I didn't know what you meant by that... >_>

 

[T-block]

Yeah I'll explain.

When I first saw Kanty say that he saw a light and then couldn't see results... I thought he targetted someone who was bp, therefore not dieing, and 'getting a second chance'.

But then I said "But then I realized it might be flash" and when I meant that, I meant as a role block. So in that instance, I then thought it wasn't me who he targetted. Then I didn't question him anymore.

BUUUUUUT

When he stated that he WASN'T roleblocked, then I went back to thinking there might have a been a chance he DID target me. That is when I started asking him to out his target. I didn't expect Raz to be the one who he really targetted.


When I realized BP doesn't protect from everything, I stopped pushing the direction of him lieing about his Raz target, yet I am still suspicious of Kanty for voting Nabe without really considering Ryker's 'cop'.

Kanty is currently voting Nabe for being indy, not for being scum.

Get me?

why do i still not understand a thing you're saying

first you thought kantrip targetted you with his watch, because he claimed it failed, and you thought it was because of your substitute. what is this "not dying". what the hell is the "second chance".

then you thought he might have been roleblocked, meaning you weren't the cause.

then he insisted he wasn't roleblocked, so you thought he might have targetted you after all. he said he watched raz, and you thought he was lying because you thought he targetted you. is lying about watching raz the only thing that contributed to your scum read on him that comes from all of this NA stuff? when you realized that substitute wouldn't block the watch, you realized he actually was roleblocked, and dropped that line

DO I HAVE THIS RIGHT

 

[T-block]

Vote: Xonar

I attracted you last night an nothing happened to me, tell me more.

why did this warrant a vote?

did he claim to have done something?

 

[T-block]

oh they're not actually masons. okay. then i guess gorfryu are okay still.

 

[T-block]

actually i change my mind.

WL is very familiar with pokemon, right?

why is RR's ACTIVE ability "lightningrod", an ability in pokemon, rather than follow me? follow me makes more sense as an active ability, and it would affect all targetted moves, whereas lightning rod only attracts electric-type moves in pokemon.

yeah, it's mod meta, but it's bothering the hell out of me

 

[T-block]

ran, i wish you would take some effort to find things yourself, but here:

ryker's too arrogant to fake something like that. the fact that he was so sure that xonar being a trainer meant he was anti-town reveals that he's town

as for this

2. The trainer thing could have just as well have been from the mafia perspective. Why would Laundry give mafia PM's that aren't similar to towns? He wouldn't. Not to mention there is a sample PM. So Ryker as mafia would have know that we have pokemon in our PM's. Ryker did not even think that you were mafia for claiming trainer, he thought you were indy which is exactly what mafia would assume in that situation. Town would assume that you were just scum in general.

ryker is town because the way he reacted to everything reads as genuine. plus, it's not his style to fake something like that as a town facade. it's pretty clear that ryker did not know we all had trainers. i put the indy conclusion as influenced by his own pokemon game in the DR.

 

[T-block]

Posting tonight. Been busy with the gf, as usual.

why do you always do this

should defs be our taunt shot toNight imo

 

[T-block]

things i don't like about kantrip:

-overly curious on people's perception of him - see post 876, 878; potential scum desire to gauge people's ideas of him and act appropriately; questions on this subject are clearly not for scumhunting purposes either - drops the topic in 880
-insistence on clarifying between blinded and roleblocked; says he just wanted to yell at ran for being wrong about something; not sure i believe that, but i can't think of any reason why
-WL supposedly telling him about the difference between "attack" and "move" within the context of this game; this one i really don't believe - pretty sloppy of the mod to use the word attack in the description like that... he would have specified lethal attack or something; doubting that he actually has pressure, maybe claimed it to deter town actions from him
-weird approach to the xonar wagon in 1262. reads like forced reasoning, procured to be able to present something new when joining the wagon

bunch of little things that are off that sorta add up. wouldn't be the worst thing if we lynched him imo - he's probs going to be lingering on my mind until he's dead or until the end of the game, but i'm a little iffy on lynching an investigative, so he probs wouldn't be my top choice toDay.

pretty tired - gonna sleep and i'll think about ran tomorrow.

 

[Ramen King]

Change my mind we r lynching tblock

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Posting tomorrow, sorry, had a long night. (On my laptop now, terra firma!)

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Change my mind we r lynching tblock

Certainly wouldn't mind more votes.

We're gonna have to talk about stuff around a Ryker lynch later. I don't agree currently, for multiple reasons.

Ranmaru, you have no support to vote me. Not even from Red Ruy, who is hunting me down with all he has. Not even Ryker, who was the main person to suspect me yesterday.
Add your vote somewhere helpful.

[collapse=RuyStuff]Prove it was a gambit.

You have no substance for this.

Oh, I dunno. You called it a gambit yourself and I don't see it being anything else but a gambit.

It's not an ad hominem, it's telling you that you can't back up your claims.

I did nothing, but no indication of scum intent which you never looked for, if you did, you would have questioned me or seen where my "alleged" gambit went.

Could you rephrase this? If anything, a temporary answer is that putting pressure on you was the right option imo.

Your post quoting it had me a lynch option, then you tried to get people to avoid my posts and voted me when I gave Ryker my vote.

Your lying.

The bolded really needs fixing, Ruy. Your is possessive, i.e. "that's your cup!", you're is an abbreviation of "you are".

Besides that, you're assuming that my goal was a quicklynch. You're pulling it out of context. It was, what, page 3/4/5? A lynch option back then is far from as serious as a lynch option later on. Not to mention, if I really wanted to lynch you, I would've gotten people to vote on you. You know, I'm kinda persuasive sometimes. Sometimes. But not this time. Why not? Because I didn't want to quicklynch you.

No it's how the events played out, you claimed a very convenient role when presented with death.

I'm not backing down.

Man, it was so convenient that Kantrip had a power role when he was about to get lynched.
For real though, speculation and stuff. Not a good basis.[/collapse]

For the record, you'll never get a worry seed off on anyone by me.

That's quite anti-town of you. Do you think this actually helps town? If so, how?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

You might throw RR/Gorf in the lynch pool but not Xonar/Zen? Why them over those two?

Drop it. I've semi cleared us both. Why? To allow town to focus. Don't do this.


Also, Kantrip, why do you want to know Ranmaru's ability :v

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Why all the T-Block hate? Don't think he's been that bad, and no one on his wagon seemed to really show how.

 

[ranmaru]

There is no hate. Its fake. It was pressure that turned into lynch intent. Now tell me dh, do you feel there may be scumintent in this wagon?

Look. I read you, of all people, as town. Because I like the arguments and questions you brought up.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

There is no hate. Its fake. It was pressure that turned into lynch intent. Now tell me dh, do you feel there may be scumintent in this wagon?

Look. I read you, of all people, as town. Because I like the arguments and questions you brought up.

When did that happen?

 

[ranmaru]

On this page.

Zen said 'k we lynchin tblok'

You replied 'certainly wouldnt mind more votes'

Your response left your options open, also because you didnt oppose his idea/intent.

So I dont like zens intent, and I am confused with your intent with the wagon.

Also wat do u think of my dh town read?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

See, this is where you go wrong;

Zen said 'k we lynchin tblok'

You replied 'certainly wouldnt mind more votes'

Your response left your options open, also because you didnt oppose his idea/intent.

You say I don't oppose his idea/intent, the thing I don't oppose is MORE VOTES though.

Also, considering the underlined, there must be other things that make me keep my options open w.r.t T-Block. What about that?

It's no wonder you're confused about my intention if you don't even properly read what I say.

Also wat do u think of my dh town read?

I think it's not solid. Why do you want to know?

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

There is no hate. Its fake. It was pressure that turned into lynch intent.

Would you consider lunch intent to be fake?

Now tell me dh, do you feel there may be scumintent in this wagon?

Probably. Very few people on it have explained why, IIRC.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Dark House, who are we lynching today?

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

If we keep up like this, then we're lynching T-Block

 

[ranmaru]

Dh:

No. my point is that the 'dislike' of tblock isnt really there. They are lynching him only to lynch him, since I see no good reason to.

They are pressuring him to just pressure him, since they havent folowed up with questions or comments on his posts after his wagon built momentum.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Exactl y