Laundry's All-Stars Pokemon Mafia -- Pokeballs to the Pokewalls!

[JTB]

I want him desperately investigated. Please. Considering the amount of content he's had up to this point, plus the utter BLANDNESS that this post provides, I am getting scum when I don't know if I should be. TBlock, you are my strongest town read so far. What do you think?

Old quote but

Why are you asking for an investigate on RR if you two are lovers?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Xonar couldn't have put him to sleep, but it doesn't mean he is not scum.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

unvote

Xonar does it concern you that my vote is on Nabe? You've been asking me some pretty useless questions ngl.

It's more of a matter of understanding the mindset behind your reads.

[collapse=RuysStuff]

Do I really need to spell out why Xonar lynch is the best move?

If he thought it was a gambit, why the ****ing hell did he try and stop my gambit. That produces information for town, even a ****ty gambit from Felipe would produce something.

Because it was a ****ty gambit that you didn't even properly used. A gambit is fine, if it has town motivation behind it.

If he was scum hunting, why the ****ing hell did he never back down from me til Ryker stepped in. He blatantly ignored the lover claim and tried to push a quick lynch on what I had done.

Pulling facts out your ***. Nice.

If Xonar did give two ****s about scum hunting, why did he never give a real reason for his suspcions.

First off, I don't see the relation between the two. Second, I kinda did.

He put me as scum off my one Lucario post when the game started, he never backed down even when others were doing the same. Only because he wanted a mislynch.

Your *** must be full of these facts!

His role is horribly opportunistic since it came up only after he was sure Ryker would shoot him. So he played to Ryker's need to live as long as possible as either alignment with a true fear to his survival.

:v I havent full claimed yet. But nice speculation![/collapse]

This line is actually pretty clever as a scum ruse. To me, it will be read as a compliment and I will like that Xonar is saying that. Meanwhile, the trailing off "or..." implies that he's unsure on my slot and that I could easily be scum. Then, as he reads me throughout the game, I see everything at surface level and he doesn't look into my intent as I have known him to do in the past. In fact, he hasn't been looking in-depth at much of anything at all. He's had a bunch of my posts that he's called "gross" and "scummy" and yet the posts were only that gross at surface level. I like T-block better because he acknowledges that the posts are gross but is reasonable in saying that it doesn't make me scum because I'm just stupid like that.

Woah there, cowboy. That's overreading at it's finest. I admit I haven't looked at intent too much with your posts, mainly because I feel like people who are angry while posting should be took at face value.

Xonar and I are town confirmed masons.

Sorry, but we're both semi cleared right now. No need to shoot us this far up the kill priority list for scum.

Since I have no useful Night Action to use toNight (I'm not gonna burn a Mimic just to get Flashed again), Nabe could give me the gun and I could shoot whoever I'm directed to? If people don't trust me I understand, but I'm taking no Night Action anyways....

That's not going to fly with me. (get it? hurhur)

I would actually like Joey to get the gun and have him shoot Raziek/JTB.

He's most likely lying to defend his town reason anyways.

Xonar confirm this btw.

I confirm nor deconfirm anything.

Crumbs don't matter man. I wouldn't believe a role just because of crumbs, we have to look at your and Xonar's actions.

I think Xonar is scum because: I agree with RR. Simple as that.

I don't see much scumhunting from Xonar, just little pokes. "Hey guys this line is a massive scumtell" "Hey zen why did you ask about the mason thing?" "What the hell does weather have to do with blah blah blah"

It's slight but I'd rather Ryker/Kantrip be lynched instead. But I think you are bull****ting and I am fine with lynching him just to lynch you next if he flips scum.

I dunno man does my read list look like what scum would have? :v

Or Worry Seed does something completely different.

...:v
You know tha-

Haha wut ryker y would worry seed do something different?

Yeahhhh.



I'm gonna go through the thread. Quote why Ryker is town, why Zen is town, why Dooms is town, why Xonar is town, try to remember where Ranmaru was town and that leaves us with [Raziek Gorf Dark Horse Red Ruy Nabe Kantrip T-Block JTB]
Out of which we wanna keep Nabe around for another night because I can trust Joey with the gun. Kantrip can chill around for now, but he needs direction and soon. T-Block too if he starts posting some more.
That leaves Raz JTB Ruy Gorf. In that order. Possibly Ranmaru added in there if I can't find what I was looking for.
The lynchpool needs to be limited so we can look at what's important. This spreadfire of votes is ****ty.

I want Ruy to answer my question (is your attract an ability or a move).

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Why Dooms is town​

So, if you haven't read D1, then do so. You can basically pick a random Joey post and see how town he is.
Examples. 1 2 3

Why Zen is town​

The main attribute of Zen's towniness is seeing mason hints between TekcaT and Ranmaru and backing off of TekcaT instead of pushing him.

read in order:
1 2 3 4 5

And there's the fact that he didn't know about Joey sleeping. Yeah I don't think that was fake, but it's a minor point regardless.

Why Ryker is town​

Ryker's towniness is a culmilation of multiple factors.
One post.
Overall his vig claim and the way he uses it to read people.

But then this. There's no way that scum would do this because scum are the ones that get a different PM from town, if you know what I'm saying.
Like so:

ryker's too arrogant to fake something like that. the fact that he was so sure that xonar being a trainer meant he was anti-town reveals that he's town

Why Xonar is town​

I came back because I just realized that Ryu has pretty much confirmed Xonar as town if we were to go on roles. *cracks knuckles*

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Worry_Seed_(move)

This ability awakens a sleeping pokemon/prevents a pokemon from being put to sleep.

We know that Joey has been put to sleep. You would all agree that this has been done by an anti-town role, yes?

This would thus make Xonar's role of the opposing faction ie town. Unless HE is the person who has sing/hypnosis. Thus he could have claimed he had worry seed to be seen as town in the future after he had put someone to sleep.

But what's this, Ryu "magneted" Xonar last night? That would mean that any action Xonar used would have been placed on Ryu. That would mean that Xonar COULDN'T have put Joey to sleep.

Thus we conclude that Xonar does not have sing/hypnosis and did not claim worry seed to look town but claimed worry seed because he actually HAS worry seed and IS town.

^____^

Why Ranmaru is town​

He elaborated on it after I saw it, here it is.

Spoiler

Yeah I'll explain.

When I first saw Kanty say that he saw a light and then couldn't see results... I thought he targetted someone who was bp, therefore not dieing, and 'getting a second chance'.

But then I said "But then I realized it might be flash" and when I meant that, I meant as a role block. So in that instance, I then thought it wasn't me who he targetted. Then I didn't question him anymore.

BUUUUUUT

When he stated that he WASN'T roleblocked, then I went back to thinking there might have a been a chance he DID target me. That is when I started asking him to out his target. I didn't expect Raz to be the one who he really targetted.


When I realized BP doesn't protect from everything, I stopped pushing the direction of him lieing about his Raz target, yet I am still suspicious of Kanty for voting Nabe without really considering Ryker's 'cop'.

Kanty is currently voting Nabe for being indy, not for being scum.

Get me?

What he thought is that​

1. Kantrip claims very hard to not be roleblocked, just blinded.
2. So, how does Kantrip know it's not a full roleblock? He must've done something additionally that did go through!
3. But he never claimed to have been doing something else, so the something additional must've been an unclaimed scum night action.
4. That's why he claims to not have been role blocked, because he knows his other action did go through.

That's NOT how a scum would think. At all.

This thought process he posted about earlier, but I didn't bother with finding that post.

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Anyway, I want to talk with Zen a bit about Ran and then see where we now go between the four of
Raz -> JTB -> Ruy -> Gorf

And yes, if it comes down to it I am willing to risk it with Ruy and Gorf. What they're both doing is bull.

Ruy should answer my questions for ****s sake. That would help a lot. Sorry ladies, but both your play has been so bad that you will have to give us more information.

It sucks having two permanent nulls. JTB, when is the con you're going to? I wanna know when we can expect content out of you.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Ryker's part is a bad small, but honestly I don't feel like going through all his posts. He has just been really towny. Don't see why we would be on him.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Oh right I forgot Dark House. Not sure what to do with that guy.

 

[JTB]

I'm leaving Thursday morning then coming back early Tuesday, but I'll be caught up before I leave so I could contribute to the game. Just don't expect massive walls of text since ill be posting via phone

I have been catching up just so you guys know, just not as quickly as expected.

 

[Ramen King]

No need to shoot us this far up the kill priority list for scum.

Ryu how can you not see this as purely a town response. You dope.

Vote: T-Block

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I'm actually okay with T-Block pressure atm.

Vote: T-Block

 

[Ramen King]

Xonar your town read on Ryker is so wrong I don't even.

Vote: Ryker

One of him and T-block today. The points you made on Ran are acceptable for now.

The town points you are making on Ryker are wrong because:
1. Ryker unvoting when Ran was at L-1 just shows him looking for some town cred. He had jumped on the wagon just from my request so upon a Ran town flip it wouldn't look so good for him.

2. The trainer thing could have just as well have been from the mafia perspective. Why would Laundry give mafia PM's that aren't similar to towns? He wouldn't. Not to mention there is a sample PM. So Ryker as mafia would have know that we have pokemon in our PM's. Ryker did not even think that you were mafia for claiming trainer, he thought you were indy which is exactly what mafia would assume in that situation. Town would assume that you were just scum in general.

And I'm going to scream indy until I have a second trainer claim as trainer to save your ***.

Vote Xonar

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Okay I can see where you're coming from, but I'd say a T-Block wagon would be more profitable atm. Could we do that first?

 

[Ramen King]

T-Block is scum, but Ryker is a loose cannon. I don't want him alive. If you vote him with me and get his lynch I will be in your debt.

 

[Ramen King]

And I'm still going to post my full thoughts on him. But right now I'm going out. Be back tonight though.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

That's exactly why you want to wagon him later today. We have time to put pressure on T-Block and evaluate reactions.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Also, Nabe, have any idea how Ryker got Flash Cannon while you're friggin Sableye?

 

[Raziek]

Posting tonight. Been busy with the gf, as usual.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Xonar you're gay.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

And that Ranmaru thing is weak.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

And I don't know why you guys are going toward TBlock his entire play's been pre' consistent if you ask me.

Obtw the sleep **** is totally negated by the possibility that Joey did it to himself, or the fact that somebody aided Joey in a way, such as like a rest-esque thingy. A.K.A I don't think scum would waste a silencer on Joey. A.K.A I think he should claim what the fuhh happened to em when he comes back toMorrow.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I actually wanna know why I'm scum and not just indolent.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Cote: Ranmaru

 

[ranmaru]

I actually wanna know why I'm scum and not just indolent.

Yo, what do you think of Xonar actually?

Look. WTF did you just do to me?

Anyways. Have you and RR kissed and make up? Because you two need to do that. I agree Tblock shouldn't be wagoned ToDay.

YOU, gotta look at: Ryker, Zen, Nabe. Those three. Can you do that? Because you are just zoning in on RVS shenanigans. You aren't looking at play dawg.

So step up your game. Yes, this is ME, saying YOU should step up your game.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I'm already convinced 100% that Xonar, Ryker, and Zen are all town. Nabe is a different case, and no matter how much I look at his play (trust me, I have been), I can't get a solid read on em. Am willing to lynch.

Wow I coted you. My bad man.

My suspicion of you ain't just on dat RVS if that's what you were thinking.

And man that last line hurts.

 

[ranmaru]

I can't see how you see them all as %100 town, especially Ryker.

I also think it's a bit weird you and RR are lovers while there are masons (Xonar + Zen) as well. This means there might be less investigative roles in this game, which doesn't really make sense.

No I mean, what does cote mean?

Yeah sorry about that last line. Like I said, I really want you to see what I can see.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

From Ryker's PoE, his play just doesn't make sense as scum. Plus I dig Xonar's analysis of em. Xonar and Zen should be obvious.

That second line makes me think you're ********.

That third line REASSURES me that you're ********.

 

[ranmaru]

... I'm serious. I don't know what that means. >_>

And I'm not convinced of RykerTOWN. Like, he isn't really looking for scum. He just did some cop gambit on Nabe, which I don't think he went anywhere with. I also don't see why he voted Zen, seemed a bit opportunistic to me. That's my piece.

@Tblock: I want you to comment on Xonar, Zen, and Nabe.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Gorf you know Ruy's role.

Is his attraction his ability or a move?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

and we're cool with T-Block pressure right now. It's profitable if you have a town read on him too, as (if you're right) it allows town to focus more on others if his reactions and new content satisfy you.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Gorf you know Ruy's role.

Is his attraction his ability or a move?

If I have it right, our lover role is our ability and his attraction is his move. I'll check right now.

And you right you right Vote: TBlock

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

My ability is Plus. His ability is Minus. That's what attracts us.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Ask the mod what happens when one of you loses your ability w.r.t kills. Would be swell to Worry Seed one of you and just shoot Ruy with Nabe's gun without consequence.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

HMM. SOUNDS TEmPTING!

 

[ranmaru]

Gorf, I don't get this. Why are you wagoning your town read mang?

How can Tblock get pressured if he knows the wagon is for pressure?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Because there are plenty people on here who are entirely willing to lynch him if his reactions aren't satisfactory.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Who are you voting, Ranmaru?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Gorf, I don't get this. Why are you wagoning your town read mang?

How can Tblock get pressured if he knows the wagon is for pressure?

There's this thing called getting people you want to play the game to play the game.

 

[Raziek]

Can someone do me a big favor and throw together our current claim list for me?

Am I to understand we have claimed lovers AND masons?

 

[Kantrip]

Only one half claims mason, the other supposed mason is abstaining from addressing the claim.

Claims so far:

Kantrip: Articuno - Watcher, Mimic, Pressure passive that makes killing actions take double PP
Xonar: Ferrothorn - Worry Seeder, Iron Barbs passive that kills players who try to kill Xonar
Gorf: Minun - Town lover with Ruy that is their passive
Ruy: Plusle - Town lover with Gorf as passive, Lightningrod ability
Not a Hufflepuff: _____ - Town vig
Ranmaru: Gliscor - Town death defier, substitute that acts as a bulletproof
Nabe: Sableye - Town Gunsmith with Taunt, a compulsive ability to give someone a compulsive shot that was identified as Flash Cannon, effectively roleblocking them. Is immune to his own shots
Zen: ______ - Town confirmed mason with Xonar. This has not been confirmed or denied by Xonar.

I think I got everything. Night Actions, too:

Kantrip: Targeted Raziek with Fly! Kantrip was blinded by a bright light and received no result. His attack missed!
Xonar: Allegedly did nothing, or at least did not use his claimed ability.
Gorf: Unknown.
Red Ruy: Used Attract on Xonar, but nothing happened!
Not a Hufflepuff: Received Flash Cannon from Nabe and shot at Nabe. But it failed!
Ranmaru: Ranmaru created a Substitute! (I don't actually know how this works. @Ran: Do you have to send in an action for Substitute, or is it innate?)
Nabe: Used Taunt to give Flash Cannon to Not a Hufflepuff.
Zen: Unknown.
JTB: Targeted Kantrip with something.

Of the stuff claimed, Nabe's looks the strangest to me. There's the fact that he's apparently giving out Flash Cannons as Sableye. Additionally, his claimed role name does not match up to other ones. Eh.

 

[ranmaru]

Xonar: I'm voting you

Kantry: Nope. Why didn't you ask Nabe that tho?

 

[Kantrip]

Wait, nope what? Nope you don't have to send it in?

What is your Pokémon's ability?