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Gova|Ryker
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I ****ing told everyone. Why did that wagon go through?
I intended to follow this with my next post.

I do not believe for an instant that the TekcaT wagon went through at the end of the last day without scum being on it. I also do not like that we have JTB and Raz who are almost certainly going to remain completely empty slots.

Nabe is the same damn deal and I copped him over JTB/Raz because he's actually threatening.
 

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It is an un-CCed investigative claim that is able to put results on the table that can be confirmed. It's not rocket science. Watcher is a pretty bulletproof claim on D1 until you've been given a chance to show it (not counting for CC).
Yet he didn't get a result, but also states he didn't get RB'd. You believe that?

Is it possible he may be a scum watcher in your opinion?
 

Ramen King

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If he's town, he's a high profile NK target, especially if they are scared of a vig with a hypothetical roleblocker. If they roleblock him, then it doesn't matter. If he gets shot at, but not protected, then it also doesn't matter.
I think we got something children.

How the hell does this explain the benefit in watching himself? You just stated that if he is roleblocked, then he gets no result. And if he is shot at, he gets no result. So then what would be the point of him watching himself? The only way it would be beneficial is if he was protected (doc protect him while he is shot at), but you just stated that he should not be protected so then why watch himself?
 

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Yet he didn't get a result, but also states he didn't get RB'd. You believe that?

Is it possible he may be a scum watcher in your opinion?
I believe it doesn't matter. I can shoot him tonight if I want. I'm not about to off him before seeing if he's a watcher.

Scum watcher? Possibility. If he is, I really don't care because I have a ****ing guilty.
 

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I think we got something children.

How the hell does this explain the benefit in watching himself? You just stated that if he is roleblocked, then he gets no result. And if he is shot at, he gets no result. So then what would be the point of him watching himself? The only way it would be beneficial is if he was protected (doc protect him while he is shot at), but you just stated that he should not be protected so then why watch himself?
He should not be protected. This does not mean he won't be protected and putting that option on the table is more intimidating than any of your Joey bull****.
 

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I believe it doesn't matter. I can shoot him tonight if I want. I'm not about to off him before seeing if he's a watcher.

Scum watcher? Possibility. If he is, I really don't care because I have a ****ing guilty.
I don't care about your vig ability. I asked you if you believe it, and it does matter. I didn't ask you if you were about to off him or not.
 

Ramen King

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@Zen: The thing is, if I'm roleblocked or shot at, then my result doesn't exist anyways.
That's exactly the point I'm making. Ryker told you to watch yourself. But there is absolutely no benefit to doing so. Why did he tell you to do so then? You see what I'm getting at?

He literally just gave two reasons why there is no benefit to it. The only benefit would be if you were docced, hence why I asked him if he thought you should be docced, which he does not. You follow?
 

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That's exactly the point I'm making. Ryker told you to watch yourself. But there is absolutely no benefit to doing so. Why did he tell you to do so then? You see what I'm getting at?

He literally just gave two reasons why there is no benefit to it. The only benefit would be if you were docced, hence why I asked him if he thought you should be docced, which he does not. You follow?
I follow just fine, but NKs aren't the only abilities that could go to me. I don't think this is a slip like you're trying to push for. If I get roleblocked or NK'd, it DOESN'T MATTER who I picked, myself or otherwise. He's also saying there was a chance of me getting docced, even if he doesn't advocate it. idk
 

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I believe it doesn't matter. I can shoot him tonight if I want. I'm not about to off him before seeing if he's a watcher.

Scum watcher? Possibility. If he is, I really don't care because I have a ****ing guilty.
Ramen thoughts on this post? ^^
 

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Oh yeah this reminds me.

I'm actually a traitor with my same abilities, so don't shoot me Zen.
This post is 100% anti-town. There is no possible thing you could get from this. If I were scum I would say this exact same thing so it's not like you could get a reaction from it. What are you doing?
 

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I follow just fine, but NKs aren't the only abilities that could go to me. I don't think this is a slip like you're trying to push for. If I get roleblocked or NK'd, it DOESN'T MATTER who I picked, myself or otherwise. He's also saying there was a chance of me getting docced, even if he doesn't advocate it. idk
So there's a possibility of you getting night killed. So there's a possibility of you getting roleblocked. So it's more beneficial for you to watch yourself in which there is the possibility of getting nothing, rather than watching someone else where there is a possibility of getting something (ie you not being roleblocked or killed). How would you possibly being roleblocked/killed suggest that watching yourself is the best course of action? He specifically told you to do so as if it were so.

Those questions are rhetorical. The fact that Ryker is now leaving after getting on him about this just adds to my concern.
 

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I don't think he expected me to actually do it, either. When I asked why, he just said "it's an option" and didn't try to convince me to do it. What was the intent of that?
 

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Those questions are rhetorical. The fact that Ryker is now leaving after getting on him about this just adds to my concern.
I'm playing tank in an MMO with Stew. Join the Skype call and you'll see. Things don't happen very smoothly while I'm AFK. I'm alt-tabbing. As soon as we get done at some point tonight, I'll be caught up.
 

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Because I want to know what happened to Zen's super scumread on you. A lot of the questions you're throwing out around here seriously don't have any point to them.
Can you go into what questions don't have a point?
 

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I don't think he expected me to actually do it, either. When I asked why, he just said "it's an option" and didn't try to convince me to do it. What was the intent of that?
The point is the lack of town intent. A lack of town intent shows that he was talking to just be talking. In other words, posting content for the sake of showing content. There is no town motivation behind posting just to show that you are posting. Especially for Ryker who has no problem posting limited amounts.
I'm claiming scum. It's pretty fun, you should try it one time.
What? What is the point of this?
Zen what happened to your super scumread on Ran?
Do you mean what is my current read on Ran? Null.
Ramen thoughts on this post? ^^
I'm not sure what you're looking for. There's nothing really telling in that post that I see.
 

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Ryker, why did you choose Nabe? What happened with Kantrip/Xonar?
This one. Seriously, what were you looking to get? His answer wouldn't tell you anything about his alignment, and his philosophies for targeting wouldn't help you in this game if you're town.

What exactly about Kanties claim made you totally overlook your scumread on him, since he was your strongest lead.
This. I don't see why it matters, as it's pretty obvious.

Yet he didn't get a result, but also states he didn't get RB'd. You believe that?

Is it possible he may be a scum watcher in your opinion?
These just have no point. "Do you believe him? Oh hey do you think he could be scum Watcher"?

Of course I could be. But what is asking that going to do for you?

Ryker thoughts on this post?
I don't really get why you ask others for thoughts on a post without giving yours. Are you hoping to see if they coincide without bias?

Kantrip why did you ask this?
Can you go into what questions don't have a point?
I realize you just want me to do extra work, but why?
 

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The point is the lack of town intent. A lack of town intent shows that he was talking to just be talking. In other words, posting content for the sake of showing content. There is no town motivation behind posting just to show that you are posting. Especially for Ryker who has no problem posting limited amounts.
What? What is the point of this?
Do you mean what is my current read on Ran? Null.
I'm not sure what you're looking for. There's nothing really telling in that post that I see.
I suppose, though I can't say I can analyze every crevice of possibilities to say for sure there is no town intent. I see your point, though.

Self preservation. Since you've claimed scum, by telling you I'm a traitor you won't Night Kill me. :awesome: AKA it was for fun.

What changed?
 

Ramen King

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Don't claim traitor ever. It truly is self preservating. It's the only way traitor can notify scum that they are a traitor. Posting WIFOM like that is just anti-town and anti-town only. I really wish you were night killed.
 

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@Kanty:

This one. Seriously, what were you looking to get? His answer wouldn't tell you anything about his alignment, and his philosophies for targeting wouldn't help you in this game if you're town.
Yes it would. I was looking to see why he chose Nabe to see if his reason was legit or not. He also was going to vig Xonar but saw that Xonie had a strong role, so I was wondering why he chose Nabe over Xonar. Especially since it was a one shot cop.

This. I don't see why it matters, as it's pretty obvious.
It matters because you are scum, Kanty. His read on you was very convincing, and I don't think we should let you off the hook because of your claim.


These just have no point. "Do you believe him? Oh hey do you think he could be scum Watcher"?

Of course I could be. But what is asking that going to do for you?
I asked him to see what his thoughts were about your results to see if they lined up with his opinion on you going into the night. I don't see why you don't see that man. This seems more like you are trying to twist my questions as pointless when they really do have a point.


I don't really get why you ask others for thoughts on a post without giving yours. Are you hoping to see if they coincide without bias?

Nah, I have an opinion on it. I think it's weird that he totally let you off the hook off your claim, especially after your results seem a little clammy. I don't think his explanation is genuine.

I realize you just want me to do extra work, but why?
Why does this concern you? You have to back up your accusations.
 

Kantrip

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@Zen: I do want to survive, though.

I claimed traitor with the hint that you are mafia. If you're not mafia, the real mafia knows I'm lying, and so won't leave me alive and will disregard this. If you are mafia, however, you might actually believe the statement and maybe even have a weird reaction to the statement. If you are mafia, it may actually be true.

So, why are you so worried about a statement that should be obsolete from your POV as town?
 

ranmaru

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Wow I honestly didn't think you had reason behind those questions either Ran. Nice to see that you did.
Yep. I think Kantrip is scum with Ryker. So wanna lynch one of them ToDay?

Also I think Ryker copping Nabe is bull****, and so is receiving a cop.

We can't even line up the ability with that of a pokemon ability. (He didn't say a move name or anything)
 

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Oh I see Ran, you're bombarding me with questions and other people with questions regarding me because you think I'm scum. Makes sense, actually.

I can't believe you're trying to add "my results are a little clammy" to your reasons, though. You think I'm making this **** up? Cool story.
 
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