Laundry's All-Stars Pokemon Mafia -- Pokeballs to the Pokewalls!

[ranmaru]

Yes I do think you are making it up. You didn't get roleblocked, so this means you targetted someone that was bulletproof, rite?

 

[Kantrip]

You think I'm scum with Ryker? How are our interactions SvS? I don't see how you possibly believe this on any level but the surface.

 

[Ramen King]

@Zen: I do want to survive, though.

I claimed traitor with the hint that you are mafia. If you're not mafia, the real mafia knows I'm lying, and so won't leave me alive and will disregard this. If you are mafia, however, you might actually believe the statement and maybe even have a weird reaction to the statement. If you are mafia, it may actually be true.

So, why are you so worried about a statement that should be obsolete from your POV as town?

That's the thing, the underline is completely wrong. If you are traitor then the best way you can tell that to your scummates without outing them is to "fake claim" it therefore being a crumb for them. It's not like you would want to actually out your actual scummates. If mafia has an unusually low number then it's likely for them to assume that you are truly crumbing traitor to them. None of us town knows how many mafia there are so only mafia would know if you are claiming traitor just to be dumb or if you are claiming it to them while pretending to be dumb.

 

[BRB Not Posting.]

Yes I do think you are making it up. You didn't get roleblocked, so this means you targetted someone that was bulletproof, rite?

Interesting. You're right. Nabe is.

 

[Kantrip]

Yes I do think you are making it up. You didn't get roleblocked, so this means you targetted someone that was bulletproof, rite?

I really hope this isn't directed at me.

 

[ranmaru]

Kantrip it is directed at you

 

[BRB Not Posting.]

Welp, this is fun. I should've stayed alt-tabbed.

I was taunted last night and I had to shoot with a one shot (I believe the skill I gained was Flash Cannon) that I received. I still have my innate ability and I was blocked access to it last night.

 

[Kantrip]

That's the thing, the underline is completely wrong. If you are traitor then the best way you can tell that to your scummates without outing them is to "fake claim" it therefore being a crumb for them. It's not like you would want to actually out your actual scummates. If mafia has an unusually low number then it's likely for them to assume that you are truly crumbing traitor to them. None of us town knows how many mafia there are so only mafia would know if you are claiming traitor just to be dumb or if you are claiming it to them while pretending to be dumb.

Cool story. Either way, if they believe me it means they're not shooting me and I get my investigations off. Maybe they even let me actually receive results, too. Boy, that would be swell. What happens when I claim traitor? Scum either believes me or doesn't. If they don't, no effect really. If they do, I don't get targeted by them. That's what I want no matter what alignment I am with my claimed role. I don't see what's so scummy about the Town Watcher going for self preservation.

 

[ranmaru]

Welp, this is fun. I should've stayed alt-tabbed.

I was taunted last night and I had to shoot with a one shot (I believe the skill I gained was Flash Cannon) that I received. I still have my innate ability and I was blocked access to it last night.

So why are you still voting Nabe?

 

[BRB Not Posting.]

Because I shot him and he didn't die.

 

[ranmaru]

Ryker, I am saying I am bullet proof

 

[Kantrip]

Kantrip it is directed at you

I visited my target. My ability went through. However, I was BLINDED (that's actually a thing) and so did not receive the result for my investigation. Whoever said it was Flash is probably right. What the **** are you on about bulletproofs for?

 

[Ramen King]

Can someone translate Ryker's actions for me?

Kantrip has been added to the obnoxious people to play with along with Kary. My goodness.

 

[Ramen King]

Ran were you notified that you were hit? What does Kantrip have to do with you being bulletproof?

 

[ranmaru]

No I wasn't notified of anything. I just thought I might have been hit because there was no night kill, and Kantrip wasn't roleblocked, meaning he hit someone who was bp.

 

[ranmaru]

I visited my target. My ability went through. However, I was BLINDED (that's actually a thing) and so did not receive the result for my investigation. Whoever said it was Flash is probably right. What the **** are you on about bulletproofs for?

I was the one who said it might have been flash. Why do you speculate this now instead when I posted about it?

 

[Kantrip]

Because the name of the ****ing ability doesn't mean **** to me.

 

[BRB Not Posting.]

Ryker, I am saying I am bullet proof

Okay, you're bulletproof. Big smiles all around. Nabe didn't die and I will eat my foot if he was doc protected. So either I was roleblocked in addition to Kantrip being roleblocked or Nabe didn't die when he should've. The other feasible option is that Kantrip is lying and was not roleblocked. The best way for me to check this is shooting Nabe as shooting Kantrip costs me more given the information I have currently available.

 

[ranmaru]

Can someone translate Ryker's actions for me?

Kantrip has been added to the obnoxious people to play with along with Kary. My goodness.

Ryker is changing his story to whatever can fit in his favor. That is what it seems to me. I think his action on Nabe is bull****.

Kantrip can be, but he is regardless of alignment. He is scum here tho.

 

[Kantrip]

I'm out. Ran is being a little ****.

Also, I was not roleblocked. I was blinded.

 

[Ramen King]

Ryker, Kantrip wasn't roleblocked. How does Nabe not dying make him scum. And can you explain you're actions more precisely for me. You're saying that you have an original ability to vig, but it was blocked and also that someone gave you another vig shot that you used?

 

[ranmaru]

Okay, you're bulletproof. Big smiles all around. Nabe didn't die and I will eat my foot if he was doc protected. So either I was roleblocked in addition to Kantrip being roleblocked or Nabe didn't die when he should've. The other feasible option is that Kantrip is lying and was not roleblocked. The best way for me to check this is shooting Nabe as shooting Kantrip costs me more given the information I have currently available.

So what is it? Double RB or Kantrip is lying?

Would you lynch Kantrip > Vig Nabe then?

 

[Ramen King]

No I wasn't notified of anything. I just thought I might have been hit because there was no night kill, and Kantrip wasn't roleblocked, meaning he hit someone who was bp.

But how does him not being roleblocked mean that he was the one that targeted you?

 

[Kantrip]

Because he's insinuating I'm scum, obviously. He's not even trying to conceal his tunneling. That's the little **** part, is that he's not even pretending to find the flaw in my claimed ability and is just making **** up.

 

[BRB Not Posting.]

You're saying that you have an original ability to vig, but it was blocked and also that someone gave you another vig shot that you used?

Yes, but the shot I received blocked my access to other abilities and was compulsive. My other shot cannot be out prioritized and it refreshes if I hit scum.

Kantrip was affected by an ability that stopped his role from working. This is equivalent to a roleblock.

When people are shot and do not die, they are indy or mafia most of the time. Nabe has no town read to redeem him and there is a second bulletproof claim running around.

 

[ranmaru]

But how does him not being roleblocked mean that he was the one that targeted you?

Well I only thought he targetted me after claiming that he said he wasn't RB'd. It was just a guess, I don't actually know. That was why I was asking him.

The thing is... Flash would essentially be an RB, yet he said he wasn't roleblocked, so I thought he hit someone that was bp. What else could it have been? So from me being bp, I thought he hit me in my pov.

 

[Ramen King]

Unvote

Ryker what was the point of claiming cop result then? Why did you decide to go ahead and claim that you shot him?

Kantrip do you think Ran is scum?

 

[BRB Not Posting.]

Would you lynch Kantrip > Vig Nabe then?

**** no. He's a claimed watcher. I'm not even setting up the, "If Nabe is town, Kantrip must be scum" situation. If I were to shoot Kantrip, it would be based on a Kantrip scum read which is not going to be attained without further proof that his role is BS.

Kantrip isn't going anywhere and his role will expose him on his own if it's not true.

 

[BRB Not Posting.]

Unvote

Ryker what was the point of claiming cop result then? Why did you decide to go ahead and claim that you shot him?

Kantrip do you think Ran is scum?

Because people like you, who I don't like, can exploit the fact that it's not a sure-fire guilty.

 

[Ramen King]

The second question is more important.

 

[BRB Not Posting.]

It also gives Nabe an opportunity to claim something without BP which further helps my case.

I claimed because I thought Ran was trying to come after me based on the fact that he gave me the shot. Turns out he was talking to Kantrip and I just ****ed up. Go read the context.

 

[Ramen King]

Gotcha gotcha. Guess I was wrong about your pokemon then. I figured you had metronome.

 

[BRB Not Posting.]

Armor ditched me to go play Diablo because I kept alt-tabbing. Stew and I are going to be playing more in a little while, but he's doing something now, so I'm here for now.

 

[ranmaru]

It also gives Nabe an opportunity to claim something without BP which further helps my case.

I claimed because I thought Ran was trying to come after me based on the fact that he gave me the shot. Turns out he was talking to Kantrip and I just ****ed up. Go read the context.

I don't see how you got "Targetting bulletproof" mixed up with me giving you a shot.

 

[Ramen King]

What makes Nabe scum over Ranmaru?

 

[BRB Not Posting.]

The thing is... Flash would essentially be an RB, yet he said he wasn't roleblocked, so I thought he hit someone that was bp. What else could it have been? So from me being bp, I thought he hit me in my pov.

It could be him hitting doc. It could be him trying to explain why he doesn't have results without having someone else claim to be roleblocked.

It could be him telling the truth.

You're trying to make the situation fit your read when it doesn't.

 

[Kantrip]

Well I only thought he targetted me after claiming that he said he wasn't RB'd. It was just a guess, I don't actually know. That was why I was asking him.

The thing is... Flash would essentially be an RB, yet he said he wasn't roleblocked, so I thought he hit someone that was bp. What else could it have been? So from me being bp, I thought he hit me in my pov.

That's the stupidest **** I've ever heard, for real.

Your "POV" was assuming I used a killing action, which is straight up BS.

Let me say ONE MORE TIME, I was not ****ing roleblocked.

 

[ranmaru]

I never said you were using a killing action. Why did you say that?

 

[BRB Not Posting.]

I don't see how you got "Targetting bulletproof" mixed up with me giving you a shot.

I assume I targeted a bulletproof. Seeing as a doc targeting Nabe would have to be on drugs, I assumed you were calling me out as I would have to be shooting and wouldn't be able to use a cop shot if I had it.

 

[Kantrip]

Because you're referring to bulletproofs being the reason my investigative action didn't go through.