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[Diatenshi]

That's most of the CG'ing basics anyway haha.

And I thought that slight DI was good the entire time, but best when you were below 20%. I heard shine out at 21% was when that worked, and pivot grabbing came next. After that, people get creative but I know M2K liked to Utilt regrab do a grab hit and then Uthrow again. He might have mixed in Uairs to catch their DI away for the Utilt and started spiking them after a certain % though. I forget.

umm no from what ive gathered slight DI doesnt work too low ( then again ppl may have been doing it wrong against me )

i think its something to do with how fox is stunned during and up until the grab and that affects his hitboxes for the next grab till ~20% of course

idk when Uairs gain height like do enough to go into an Fsmash or Utilt... but shouldnt be too too high if they are tipped, if they do a really strong DI away, just go ahead for an Fsmash and hey if u play marth you'll know if it tips

Im trying to punish Slight DI with upsmash, but you cannot upsmash out of upthrow and get a tipper (the vertical hit) till ~45 and im working to see if Uair to Fsmash can come directly after, Cpu's arent good for this but idk have any friends that want to just sit there and get ***** repeadetly until it works

 

[stingers]

dont upsmash with marth
it's not worth it

 

[Dr Peepee]

@Diatenshi: Heck, I'll do it at a tournament with you if no one else does if it'll help you figure it out.

Or you could come visit. =)

 

[Diatenshi]

dont upsmash with marth
it's not worth it

FREAKIN LIES

im dead serious its sooo underrated

upsmash to missed tech is free ANYTHING YOU WANT



also its one of his few moves that will hit through the platforms consistenly on dreamland, and has some sort of huge horizontal hitbox that doesnt kill obviously... but that lil tink...

 

[stingers]

upsmash to missed tech

hmm...
you might be revolutionizing the marth metagame with your missed tech shenanigans

 

[Dr Peepee]

Falcon's Dtilt spacies in combo because it's hard to tech.

The strategy isn't unheard of.

 

[Diatenshi]

hmm...
you might be revolutionizing the marth metagame with your missed tech shenanigans

and say they tech, last i remember marth was **** good techchasing, if they tech up or behind it should be in marths favor, they'll either stand up with a straight tech into his range and a roll behind is super easy punished by a grab, tech away is only safe option VS this if you play it right

 

[stingers]

on fastfallers, at least it's more likely they'll mess up through random human error

marths usmash has better kb then falcons dtilt in the first place (aka worse for comboing, not to mention it's not strong enough to make it a reliable killer making it useless ala Falcos usmash), plus less range, plus more cooldown, and the few positives it has in good vertical range are outclassed by the faster, better ranged, and better comboing ability utilt...

 

[Diatenshi]

better options dont always mean its the only option, hell at any given time during sheild pressure fox can do like 7 different things, does it mean one of them is best for the situation?

yes

but every move has a use


im trying to do something different with my marth, i dont want another M2K carbon copy

 

[stingers]

does it mean one of them is best for the situation?

yes

well okay then...

 

[Diatenshi]

Can i get a BJ?

well okay then...

taking things out of context is fun isnt it

 

[stingers]

that's not even taking it out of context.
you admitted utilt was better than usmash.

you're just sticking with usmash because...it makes you look cool or something

 

[Diatenshi]

that's not even taking it out of context.
you admitted utilt was better than usmash.

you're just sticking with usmash because...it makes you look cool or something

I said there are times some moves fit situations better than others

uptilt isnt always the best option, and for the few times the upsmash is the better option i want to take advantage of it

 

[Dr Peepee]

You know, one of these days I'll probably post something about how I think we should be more open to new tactics and strategies instead of write everything new off as something "m2k or top friends" don't do.

Diatenshi, it's good to try new things, but it never hurts to use more guaranteed moves at times as well. Being different for difference's sake is bad, but if you find something you think is better or a good mixup, then by all means go for it.

 

[stingers]

Well I'm trying to tell you that Usmash isn't the better option out of a uthrow

but hey it's your world we're just livin in it

 

[Ocean]

DAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMNNNNNNNNNNNN

told you m@ is the future of NC.

 

[stingers]

DJ OR THEO - Could you take me to state on saturday? i'm gonna be in durham

i'll give u gas $ and stuff

 

[Moophobia]

lol they don't have cars wtf have you been?

 

[stingers]

sorry moophobia, i was unaware that djrome and crystalnite didn't have cars. my sincerest apologies.

 

[Mariabattleaxe]

M@, I think you are slightly pretentious and maybe you should relax.
Just saiyan.

 

[Diatenshi]

M@, I think you are slightly pretentious and maybe you should relax.
Just saiyan.

lil high strung and a touch weird to add to that

but yea i definately think im right too much of the time, its a character flaw, just dont take me all that seriously, like ever

that said im still gonna find a use for marths upsmash, albiet a very specific one

 

[Moophobia]

sorry moophobia, i was unaware that djrome and crystalnite didn't have cars. my sincerest apologies.

Get ***** son.

 

[Mariabattleaxe]

Marth's upsmash is cute when you kill someone's (Josh's) captain falcon on Yoshis with it after a ridiculously adorable little combo.

Yes Josh died from an upsmash, get at me.

 

[Diatenshi]

what sucks is that even when it tips, it still takes like 30% higher than a fox upsmash

 

[AlcyoNite]

im trying to do something different with my marth, i dont want another M2K carbon copy

there is no such thing as a m2k carbon copy

ever stop to think that pp is so much better then you because he takes every minute detail about matchups seriously theo

i wasnt talking to pp <.<

 

[stingers]

sorry theo :3

 

[TheLastCacely]

alot of bickering for some fools who gonna lose to a brawl-melee jiggz, just saying.

 

[AlcyoNite]

alot of bickering for some fools who gonna lose to a brawl-melee jiggz, just saiyan.

fixed

10ssj4

 

[DJRome]

stingers, josh told me he was going to state with me maybe we could give you a lift if you give him some gas $. also, if that doesn't work out, you can pay $2 and spend 90 minutes on tta buses. ive done that before

 

[Lightsyde]

I think after playing long enough, it's possible that I've been at some point or another killed with just about every move in the game.

A long, long time ago Adam even killed me with Luigi's taunt. :\

EDIT: DJ, what are you talking about? I'm definitely not going to State.

 

[DJRome]

lol okay, i thought u aimed me and said you were going saturday. must have been a mistake

 

[AlcyoNite]

stingers, josh told me he was going to state with me maybe we could give you a lift if you give him some gas $. also, if that doesn't work out, you can pay $2 and spend 90 minutes on tta buses. ive done that before

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[Mariabattleaxe]

Woah theo, you need to calm down.
You are making that little face eat its eye.

 

[DJRome]

last night, i watched "sad pug" videos on youtube. i had a subsequently sad dream about getting a pug puppy. i was washing him in the bathtub and he fell into the drain.

 

[lord karn]

Mullins has a pug. It's funny when she's chasing you because she'll try to turn around on the wooden floor and just slide away.

 

[null55]

kinda like you and me last night Karn.

 

[lord karn]

I'm all about sliding

 

[Lightsyde]

Oh my god, Cam is SO gay.



Too bad he never returns my booty calls. :[

 

[null55]

oum mye deeck...jjeesss...

 

[Dr Peepee]

Don't stop now.