Lambchops's friendly vids **4/28/08** NEW VIDS UP

[?!?]

Ya remember me I used to main falco and I made that tourney vid thread in the falco specific area. I now main snake NOT falco I hate him in brawl but yea snake is the manliest character in the game and in life as we can see from playing MGS

Now that I introduced myself let me show you my vids of snake . now watch my vids *****es

Lambchops vs linguini 4/28/08 NEW!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ico7SyM6FB4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2tDS1bm-Ds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ2M4iO5ZK8

Lambchops vs linguini 3/29/08
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gK8KHYdDHOs
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GkJkoWCb1o4
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wnJcQiygtP0
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FdsHNCbw0x4
http://youtube.com/watch?v=j6uIe83DiQE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZSXH7c_Rtkc[/

 

[Invalid]

For one, your snake looks better than mine so please just take this with a grain of salt. The only input i can really say is to use your bair more often. Marth seems to like to juggle you in the air and you have many openings to use your bair. Also try to keep a grenade cooked.

 

[?!?]

aight thanks bro. anyone else input?

 

[Eggz]

what a ****in cool snake dude

ima play that *****

 

[CNDM]

I see someone likes to slide xD. seriously sweet vids

 

[lukass64]

You have an awesome Snake! I don't use snake myself but I have a friend who is really good at snake. One of the things you do that he doesn't was that dash up+A. Is that his f+smash to up+A? And one thing that he does that you don't is his air combo where you just jump straight up and hit A as soon as you leave the ground and snake does a 6 hit combo. Deals massive damage.

Edit.
You use the grenades very usefully in the last video. (grenade, hold... drop grenade, roll, boom!) that was some pretty sick stuff.
btw, I think Snake is top tier.

 

[phanna]

Gonna watch these, and Snake is fun, but I've seen a lot of people like M2K swear that Falco is the best character in Brawl.

However, almost everyone is switching mains, because the playstyle of characters has changed from Melee to Brawl.

 

[Eternalfire]

Needs more Nair. Seriously, it is insanely strong.

 

[Cecilanius]

You should Dair if you get hit up. If you Dair while getting hit up, it will decrease how high you will go. I think it's the same if you use Nair if you are being hit to the sides.

 

[?!?]

Gonna watch these, and Snake is fun, but I've seen a lot of people like M2K swear that Falco is the best character in Brawl.

However, almost everyone is switching mains, because the playstyle of characters has changed from Melee to Brawl.

I think snake is the best or at least top tier in brawl

 

[Jeff Highwind]

One thing I noticed is that you detonate your C4 either too quickly or in poor circumstances. In Vid 2 you KO'd yourself using one and in others you detonate it with your opponent nowhere nearby and leave it at that. You also seem to do the same with your grenades, you just toss them out carelessly at times and Linguini just picks them up and throws them back. Overall you seem to be a bit reckless with your explosives, shooting off Usmashes too early and landing on your own Dsmashes and erratically controlling the Nikita as well.

With that out of the way, your martial combat is top class. Holy crap, the expert use of grapples and Mortar Sliding was just enjoyable to watch. You have a good balance of how and when to use his techniques but you seem to leave some out, most notably the Nair, Dair and (understandably) the Dtilt. On the note of your grapples, if you wanna mess with that Marth try Dthrowing him and chasing him to get a C4 stick on him. You should also try the Uthrow to set up for a Bair or Uair KO when he gets up high. One amazing trick I noticed from you is that you throw a grenade and Mortar Slide to pick it up again. If you can consistently do this you can mix it up to where your opponent wont know what explosion is what by cooking grenades via Mortar Slides.

Just to sum it up, good martial moves but you are way too reckless with the explosives. Focus on controlling their use and you're aces with me.

 

[Rohins]

Hey you both play really smart. The only glaring error I see with your snake chops is you are inadvertently fsmashing. I'm assuming these are supposed to be dash attacks / dash attack cancels. you can circumvent this error by using down on cstick to do dash attacks (pressing A will do an fsmash a certain amount of frames in the beginning of your dash animation, down on cstick doesn't). To work that with dash attack cancel do down cstick -> up and Z to get the slide.

Other than that, I felt the differences between yours and my snake are strictly stylistic. I really liked your down B -> bair. Keep playing and you'll figure out more stuff.

 

[Geph]

I'm an okay Snake player at best (for not having Brawl, or a Wii). Not having much tactical experience, then, I decided to do some counting.
So, here are two numbers for these six matches: .059 and .483.
Your success rate with the Nikita was .059, or about 6%.
(Here, a success is defined as "causing damage to your opponent" - thus, hitting his shield without causing damage doesn't count.)
Your success rate with the Cypher was .483, or just under 50%. On average, you had to use the Cypher twice each time it was necessary for stage recovery.
(Here, a success is defined as "successful recovery or return to the stage without getting, hit after using the Cypher." If you use the Cypher, get hit out of it, use it again, and make it back to the stage without getting hit, that counts as one 'failure' followed by one 'success'.)

Anyway, maybe these are things to think about. Maybe not? I was bored. The Cypher success rate might be off by a few % due to human (counting) error.

I think Jeff Highwind has a good assessment above.

 

[Crom]

Good use of Crombo's

 

[EmperorCesar]

You looked like a sandbag out there. You have some really impressive tech skill, but you spent most of the time sitting back, playing with projectiles and then getting juggled into next week. That Marth looks really good, but if I were you I'd probably try to abuse Snake's dash attack a lot more. It looks to be the only reliable approach against a Marth.

 

[Kurosagi]

someone just set a new standard for snake.

 

[abit_rusty]

Somehow you just stand there getting beaten and still manage to pull off a win....that's interesting lol. Not my kinda snake style but to each his own.

What really impresses me is how well you do the instant edgehog....how the heck do you even pull one off with Snake? -.- I've tried it since starting to main him and it's dang near impossible for me.

edit: hm, nvm, you have to fast fall first

 

[Eternalfire]

someone just set a new standard for snake.

Not really.

Midge is still on top of the totem pole.

 

[Ruuku]

Your Snake has improved quite a bit.

-Try to use more nades and aerials. A good trick is to hold a nade when recovering.

- If your opponent hits you with a strong attack, the explosion often stops your momentum.

- Against Marth, it usually is a good idea to throw nades at him while he's spamming f.airs.

- Also, try to lay more nade traps so that your opponent's options are to get hit by you, your nades, or get his shield broken.

- And for movement, I think using slides a lot is good but sometimes dash shield cancel and simply walking to your opponent are fine as well.

- I would suggest using your C4 a bit less and plant a mine every time you get a stock off of your opponent.

That's the only advice a noobish Snake player like me can give you.

What really impresses me is how well you do the instant edgehog....how the heck do you even pull one off with Snake? -.- I've tried it since starting to main him and it's dang near impossible for me.

edit: hm, nvm, you have to fast fall first

When dashing off the stage, try to do a half circle motion (forward, down, back).

 

[seshun]

Your Snake has improved quite a bit.

-Try to use more nades and aerials. A good trick is to hold a nade when recovering.

- If your opponent hits you with a strong attack, the explosion often stops your momentum.

- Against Marth, it usually is a good idea to throw nades at him while he's spamming f.airs.

- Also, try to lay more nade traps so that your opponent's options are to get hit by you, your nades, or get his shield broken.

- And for movement, I think using slides a lot is good but sometimes dash shield cancel and simply walking to your opponent are fine as well.

- I would suggest using your C4 a bit less and plant a mine every time you get a stock off of your opponent.

That's the only advice a noobish Snake player like me can give you.



When dashing off the stage, try to do a half circle motion (forward, down, back).

ur not s noobish snake player, u talked most of the snake tech, im was just about to tell him he should hold a grenade when coming back to the stage...i also notice yoyr kind of a cocky player and it messes you up a bit when you try to look flashy...a perfect example of how you should play was the begginning of the last match, there was no wasted effort. your on the right track so far keep it up.

 

[PsychoMidget]

pretend you're captain falcon, you need to taunt way more

 

[Xxll_The Boss_llxX]

Besides Psycho M. that's the best Snake I've seen so far. Only thing I'd say to try and do more often is Snake's n-air, and holding a 'nade while recovering. But like someone said earlier, your basic combat skill is top-notch imo. I think the jist of what you might wanna improve on has already been said, just wanted to get my tiny piece in =p

 

[Whuditdew]

Besides Psycho M. that's the best Snake I've seen so far. Only thing I'd say to try and do more often is Snake's n-air, and holding a 'nade while recovering. But like someone said earlier, your basic combat skill is top-notch imo. I think the jist of what you might wanna improve on has already been said, just wanted to get my tiny piece in =p

This guy is good but Green Apples/DSF is better. Only one loss on gamebattles.

 

[PsychoMidget]

This guy is good but Green Apples/DSF is better. Only one loss on gamebattles.

i know that guy irl haha

 

[LeSmasher]

Your last match was sickness. Just need to work on that Nikita and you're golden.

 

[Xxll_The Boss_llxX]

This guy is good but Green Apples/DSF is better. Only one loss on gamebattles.

Thaz cool. The more the merrier right? It's just great to see more and more people maining him. And watching vids like Lambchops' will help me get better with him.

And btw Psycho, I'm still tryna understand how exactly to cook a 'nade in the air like i saw in your Snake techs vid =p

 

[Ruuku]

Someone sure is messing with the word filters...

 

[PsychoMidget]

Someone sure is messing with the word filters...

april fools

 

[Ruuku]

april fools

Yeah, I know. Check the "featured videos" page on Youtube and click on any of them...

 

[Cho?]

i've got so much to learn...still psycho is my hero but you're pretty daym good too lambchop

 

[?!?]

I got new vids recorded. ima put em up asap. I improved some of my mistakes

 

[Xxll_The Boss_llxX]

Nice, lookin' forward to seeing them :bigthumbu

 

[Buuman]

Pretty amazing snake, you're off to a good start, IMO, mess around with grenade cooking more, I know C4 sticking is tough ESPECIALLY against marth, but thats another amazing technique you need to perfect, you made good use of your nikita missle, tech chase more with your down throw, and trust me bro, I know, snake doesnt have alot of options with his arials, but try to implement the dair and nair, mix it up, overall IMO, you have the flashiest snake i've seen so far

 

[BUDAMAN]

im not much of a snake player but i saw that u used ur dsmash right before marth respawned i dont think u should do that cuz while the other player is invincible they could just walk over it and blow it up with no damage done i suggest planting a mine after sending the other player flying when they're trying to recover. i also saw a guy on wifi use his c4 and detonate it in the air if he was out of jumps to the right and underneath the stage so it not only exploded him upwards alittle it also gave him his 2nd jump and up b so if ur ever in that perdicament i hope that helps. id like to know how u did that sliding mortar though, please do tell.

 

[Oscular]

I only watched the first video, and I think I saw a couple opportunities for a full hop nair when Marth was on the edge, you should try it out, but your playstyle is awesome anyways, so just saying. The one thing I love about Snake is that if I watched a vid of Psychomidget's Snake and your Snake I could clearly tell which is which (not by skill lol, by playstyle). Snake has so many playstyles so it's hard to say what you need to do. But good job so far.



Edit: Why is the sound when you pull out your nade different? Mine has a sharper "tink" sound, is this just the quality or is it something else?

 

[Oscular]

Ok another thing I saw from watching some more vids is that you sometimes recover (upB) when you get lower. If you really wanna avoid getting atked/juggled, try upBing whenever highest possible.


Edit: Oh, and I can't believe I forgot this, but you really should down throw, it gives you an opprtunity to read your opponent. There are only 4 things they could do: Get up, atk and get up, roll right, or roll left. If they atk, shield grab and down throw again. If the roll behind you, short hop bair their face. If they roll to the right, you could cromslide or nair or any other fast move.

 

[spider_sense]

Chops! More sticky C4's!!!! DO IT OR YOU GET THE CHEAP COLONGE!

 

[?!?]

yo i got better at doing that. and overall my snake 10 times better than what u see now

 

[Tin]

Not enough shield games. Where are the jabs and ftilts out of shields? Utilt is amazing but don't forget the moves I mentioned above.

 

[?!?]

dont worry no advice needed its the last thing i need. either do that or im just gonna preten like i listenned to you *****s. but yea ima make a seperate thread with tourney vids. stickies are too good